petethepanda
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I'm having a fucking rotten afternoon at work and man, it's nice to be able to tune in and watch Jeff play old games for a few moments before diving back into the bullshit.
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Sleeping Lesson
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I like to think they took some time to sit back and reminisce about the Whiskey Media days.
saveweyard
Banned
Damn, that sucks. I have CenturyLink, but I guess I'm lucky because I have 100M down and 50M up for $60. I could get gigabit from them for $80 but I haven't really seen the need to upgrade yet.
Grats on the switch, though. That Spectrum deal sounds good.
Eh. This feature should've been them having to live with whatever the person before them left them to deal with. No matter how dire the situation could be. If they die, they die. Instead this feature is Vinny plays Xcom plus Dan is crazy.
Sleeping Lesson
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I pay $90/mo for 300Mb up/20 down with no cap, but that's only because I'm in a Google Fiber neighborhood (but my apartment didn't sign up for GF).
Hang in there.
It's been a great stream indeed (or a great soundtrack to have on the background).
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Boy let me tell you about how all the wifi has been cracked.
Death Metalist
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It happened awhile ago.
I still like it but I just feel that it's not living up to what it could be.
Death Metalist
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Sound: 2
BIG BOOTY
BIG BOOTY
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
.....i like exquisite corps
Also I've started playing Valkyria Chronicles since I was in the mood for some tactic game and people tell me that game is good but.....as somebody who likes video games stories I'm not sure I can deal with it. It's probably me not being used to anime stuff but boy... It's so bad.
Also I've started playing Valkyria Chronicles since I was in the mood for some tactic game and people tell me that game is good but.....as somebody who likes video games stories I'm not sure I can deal with it. It's probably me not being used to anime stuff but boy... It's so bad.
A large part of XCOM's inital difficulty is that you really have no idea what to expect. They haven't even encountered ethereals yet! The first time I ran into them they nearly wiped my squad with it's
. So I think there's still room for catastrophe. The last two missions have gone extremely well, so maybe it's just the sense of normal progression bringing everyone down.
Plus Sectopods are mother fuckers.
turn delayed AOE attack
Plus Sectopods are mother fuckers.
they're definitely not out of the woods yet. No one got promoted this episode and they're one squad wipe away from losing. Even losing Zhang/Abom would be enough of a setback
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I don't think it's the sense of normal progression really. I think the bummer is that it's mostly just Vinny guiding them on what to do with only dan being the only person to really inject his personality into the game both literally and figuratively.
All I really get from Abby and Alex in this feature is a bunch of Uhhhhhs and asking Vinny what to do.
All I really get from Abby and Alex in this feature is a bunch of Uhhhhhs and asking Vinny what to do.
True but you also get Dirt Bike and other characters from them. So there is some personality added there.
EdReedFan20
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Nice! I was hoping they'd get around to it, but didn't think they would as it's not nearly as scary in the way the other games they already played are. It definitely has jump scare moments, but it's never a constant feeling of dread. Speaking of which, I wonder if they are going to do Outlast (1 and/or 2).
Blitzrules240
Banned
Hope we get a QL. It intrigues me but with everything coming out next week, I'm waiting for a sale or maybe not at all.
Outlast is confirmed to be one of them, so youre in luck.
EDIT: Oh, huh. I went to check when it was posting tomorrow and its 6 AM Eastern; I feel like the prior ones were 11 AM?
anyway itll be out in 12 hours then
therealminime
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Holy crap Wardor has some of the absolute worst story missions I've played in a game in some time. They vary from being extremely lazy (do X three to five times, then kill captain) to downright awful and infuriating (the boss fights for example, where there is no way to regen health).
And boy does it seem like you have to grind through a bunch of them in the back half.
And boy does it seem like you have to grind through a bunch of them in the back half.
Death Metalist
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I remember when my dad saw me playing Outlast and his thoughts on the entire first person hide and seek horror genre is "hiding from enemies is a waste of time". Basically, if you can't shoot the monsters then fuck the game.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Your dad is right.
I don't find those hide and seek games particularly interesting. I only liked Alien because, well, I like Alien.
Something like Dead Space 1 is much more scary and interesting to me because I actually need to be precise and react to things accordingly instead of just running away and hiding beneath a table. If I can't defend myself I know I never have to defend myself which takes all the tension away for me.
Human Trashcan
Banned
They get worse? I got up to the part where you take over the first major stronghold and kind of feel like I've had my fill already. I have a really hard time seeing how anyone thinks this game is anything more than extremely, abundantly average. Step up your fuckin' standards, people.
Death Metalist
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I also dislike(well, let's just say it ain't my cup of tea) those kind of games. I didn't even bother to play Alien even though I want to really badly. I only played Outlast which I never finished and SOMA which I did but only because of its excellent story, world building and voice acting. SOMA is a remarkable game despite the genre its in.
Blitzrules240
Banned
Thanks to your guys impressions, I'm completely skipping Wardor.
Thanks for saving me $60.
Thanks for saving me $60.
buy Cuphead 3 times
I find those games pretty scary but they always fall apart once I die. Once the tension is gone they just become bad stealth games.
(I haven't played Alien though)
therealminime
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The lazy design stays consistent for most of them. They almost all consist of just quickly running and doing something and then repeating it 3+ times and then killing a captain, which I'm sure you've seen a lot of already. But they manage to make some of those lazy missions even worse. Later on there is an orc cult making orc zombies and you have to drain these totems. The totems are surrounded by these orc zombies and the only way to get rid of the zombies is to drain the orc totem. But the drain animation takes several seconds to complete and they are all attacking you. There is an entire story chain dealing with these zombie orcs and each and every mission in this chain involves you draining the totems and that's about it, the last couple have you also fighting a captain. And the last mission has you draining 6 totems. And there are dozens and dozens of enemies around, all happy to interrupt the drain animation over and over.
And all of the boss fights are just straight up trash because you cannot regen health because there is no down time or enemies around for you to drain. Or they are bad for other reasons. The one I just gave up on and made me uninstall the game involves a ring wraith and two of the drakes (dragon things). I have the ability to mount and ride the drakes but not for this story mission! They have made me unable to do that here. And the drakes are unkillable! You get them to zero HP and they don't die (this is explained by LORE!!!).
And the boss fights in the base takeover missions are all trash too because of the opposite problem, the enemies just endlessly respawn. In this tiny room.
They are all trash missions. I was kind of enjoying the simple mindlessness of the open world and nemesis stuff but the story missions (which are kind of mandatory to an extent) have made me realize I think I hate the game (and I enjoyed Mordor at the time).
Also way more instances of that classic Assassin's Creed problem of the player character not doing what you wanted it to do. Like jumping to the left when I wanted him to jump straight.
they're not entirely garbage but they're pretty fucking garbage.
god help you if you roll a captain with shithouse weaknesses that you can't take advantage of because 60% of them are dependent on having level designers who remember that players need tools
overlord in a fortress room vulnerable to stealth that adapts to vault breaking and is arrow proof and can't be hit from the front aaaaaaaaaaa
hey we've made an amazing open world game where a bunch of different systems interact in interesting ways and players have various tools scattered around the world
great let's make all the story missions things where you get locked in a box and can't use any of that shit
therealminime
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I feel like Shadow of War would be better off as just one of those weird battle sim games on Steam, or something similar. Strip out all of the story shit and all of the LotR and just make a game focused on all their weird, cool nemesis stuff. Make it more of a spreadsheet game.
Let me just run around and game the nemesis system and see all the weird nemesis tricks.
Let me just run around and game the nemesis system and see all the weird nemesis tricks.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I think that's what most people think. If they put more into the Nemesis system, tightened the combat and ditch the LotR aspects it could be great. But nope, go collect 30 glowey things in every new area using the exact same traversal mechanics.
I've only got three more Shadow Wars missions to go and I've been having a blast 🤷
Really didn't like the story until it started to become clear
. Ending of Act III was a fun direction to go too*.
*I know nothing about LOTR and didn't like the films
Really didn't like the story until it started to become clear
the game is well aware you suck, even the orcs think you're cruel and what you're doing is wrong
*I know nothing about LOTR and didn't like the films
i also think some stuff they should be getting right they just don't. Like the combat is really sub arkham combat because of simple things like the hitfeel is wrong, moves aren't reliable, targeting is often fucked, visual designs of enemies is not distinguishable in the same way (everyone is the same muddy grey-green-brown). Hell even distinguishing your own allies in a melee is difficult most of the time.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Shadow of Wardor is the Dynasty Warriors of batman like games.
Thats my favorite part about this. Brad and Jeff are practically playing a Dynasty Warriors game with simply a different skin.
Also DW does what Wardor does but better(atleast the Empire versions do)
Thats my favorite part about this. Brad and Jeff are practically playing a Dynasty Warriors game with simply a different skin.
Also DW does what Wardor does but better(atleast the Empire versions do)
Incandenza
Banned
LurkerPrime
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I have a perverse desire to play Wardor, in spite of every single thing wrong with it. It could very well be my B game of 2017.
I'm downloading Mordor right now with the hope that playing it a bit will remind me of why I dislike the franchise.
Every action in Wardor has like three or four sets of numbers go up, though. DW cannot compete.
I'm downloading Mordor right now with the hope that playing it a bit will remind me of why I dislike the franchise.
Every action in Wardor has like three or four sets of numbers go up, though. DW cannot compete.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Nonsense!
You have-
Morale
Weapon Damage
Officers taken down
KO meter
Combo meter
Musou Bars to fill
In Empires you have:
Gold accrued
Territories gained
etc.
the numbers go up
tryagainlater
Member
But Arkham combat is more fun than Warriors combat.
After clocking a bit north of twenty hours with Wardor, I'm still having an alright time, but the luster of the Nemesis System has began to dull quite a bit.
I'll never not smile when some ridiculous orc shows up with a torch on his head or something, but I feel like I've already seen everything the whole "strengths/weakness" element has to offer.
I'm basically just sprinting around the map capturing orcs, since there's no real initiative to kill them instead.
There's still fun to be had, and there's really nothing else on the market quite like it, but I am at that point I hit with most open world games where I zone the fuck out and become a mindless worker drone, fulfilling as many tasks off of the checklist that I can
I'll never not smile when some ridiculous orc shows up with a torch on his head or something, but I feel like I've already seen everything the whole "strengths/weakness" element has to offer.
I'm basically just sprinting around the map capturing orcs, since there's no real initiative to kill them instead.
There's still fun to be had, and there's really nothing else on the market quite like it, but I am at that point I hit with most open world games where I zone the fuck out and become a mindless worker drone, fulfilling as many tasks off of the checklist that I can
Huh. In the QL when Brad fucked up trying to ride that giant troll or whatever and there was a massive amount of Orcs chasing him around, I thought it looked like Dynasty Warriors for a second
Blitzrules240
Banned
Sweet Jesus, I just saw the Wolfenstein 2 TV spot.
It looks fucking insane.
GOTY on notice.
For me at least.
It looks fucking insane.
GOTY on notice.
For me at least.
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