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Giant Bomb XXI | Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth
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I don't think the GB premium content has been super great lately---- but there's so much free content. All together the site gives us more content than anyone could ask for from that size of a team, both in text, podcast and video - it's great. But it does feel like they're giving away too much for free relative to premium content
For Super Mario Maker I wish Jeff and Dan would use a couple of episodes to sit down and try to create a fun, great level. Screw the chat requests and use their collective experiences with platforming to create a decently challenging but well-designed course.
For Super Mario Maker I wish Jeff and Dan would use a couple of episodes to sit down and try to create a fun, great level. Screw the chat requests and use their collective experiences with platforming to create a decently challenging but well-designed course.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I feel that while I wasn't super stoked with how MGScanlon V turned out compared to the rest of the series (which was more about the game than them really), seeing it through was the right thing to do.
I feel like it kinda reflects the game itself. It was just a bummer way for the series to end. At least they create fun moments, whereas I probably would never see MGSV through if I played it myself.
I feel like it kinda reflects the game itself. It was just a bummer way for the series to end. At least they create fun moments, whereas I probably would never see MGSV through if I played it myself.
What feels zero effort to you? I have a hard time differentiating between premium and non-premium as I kind of just consume all the content as it comes out be it live or recorded. Outside of a handful of QLs or an event live stream I don't feel like GB is ever the kind of place that has a lot of preparation put into things.
When premium was introduced I subbed because I simply wanted more content and more stuff with the dudes, I certainly wasn't subscribing off the promise of some specific produced content nor did I expect that much content out of it.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Though that's probably because back when it was introduced all they had was the whiskey media happy hour.
If you want to talk about dark times...
If you want to talk about dark times...
yeah, so if you think about it, anything other than UPF is *bonus*!
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Eh you know, standards have changed. There was a period where there was just a glut of premium content, at the point where it was at the expense of free content, and while it's not at its weakest right now it's not exactly at its strongest either, mostly because of a couple of long running series having to be finished and also it seems like they're trying to find the right balance between free and premium. Also for some reason Brad just don't do premium series anymore.
As I've said before, just isolating premium by itself I can see why people feel frustrated, but as a whole package I'm happy enough to pay what I paid for giantbomb.
Also if it's something I use a lot I'm willing to pay to not have ads.
As I've said before, just isolating premium by itself I can see why people feel frustrated, but as a whole package I'm happy enough to pay what I paid for giantbomb.
Also if it's something I use a lot I'm willing to pay to not have ads.
actually the only reason i subbed to crunchyroll back in the day
watching 3 minute anime and getting 2 minutes of ads was draining my will to live
NumberThree
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I can see that, you were spending 3/5 of your time on absolute garbage.
Just kidding, anime is cool
$6035 is too much for giantbomb.
But also I wish they would make $35 a regular price since I don't want merchandise.
I think I got a couple of coupons lying around? Not that I'll buy anything because of overseas shipping.
I think I paid something like 30 via PayPal without merchandise.
Eh, it'd be nice if GBWest were more regular with their better features, but all in all, they're still putting out way more content than I can watch (have yet to check out the last Demo Derby...) and what they lack in predictability, they make up for in being able to do an 11 hour live stream when the need arises.
It's also worth remembering that the premium membership isn't just for premium content - you're paying to access the regular content ad-free and support it directly instead.
It's also worth remembering that the premium membership isn't just for premium content - you're paying to access the regular content ad-free and support it directly instead.
SMM is boring me a little, I think because the chat continues to ask for SMW and the novelty of creating a ridiculously hard level has worn off. I also don't enjoy watching them build the level - the actual trying to compete it is more enjoyable for me.
And as for MGScanlon, I quickly tailed off after the first installment. I couldn't stomach watching the drip feed of episodes for a game that long.
Well, I rarely use the GB side for free videos, their player is just bad. I haven't subscribed to the premium podcast feed (I don't even know how to do this in Pocket Casts) so I get the ads (I just skip them, it's not too bad).
I think it's interesting how GB has grown in size and how they cover so much stuff now I don't care about, but I can't complain about not having enough content and supporting them being so different from all the screaming YouTube kids out there is worth the money.
Also kinda ironic that they talked about not wanting to cover comics and movies and so on not too long ago and instead spread their wings to wrestling and Formula 1. GB gotta do GB and that's great.
NumberThree
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I think what they (Jeff) have said is they don't want to cover X just because every other gaming site does that. Instead they cover what interests them. I'm sure Jeff wouldn't be opposed to a comics podcast, for example, if people actually wanted to do one.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Comic book podcast where they extensively discuss each Superman villain, alphabetically.
i wish dan would get over his nostalgia and embrace the level design sadism you can pull off with nsmb walljumping/sliding/buttstomping
Yeah, fair points. I feel like they couldn't use any other palette than NSMB because the others actually have fewer abilities than SMW (i.e. no spin jumping). Though to to be fair to them, it's the chat deciding which game to go off.
DontBeThatGuy
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and I miss it a lot
Yeah, I enjoyed that.
Since I started subscribing a couple years ago I stopped distinguishing between free and premium content, it feels the same to me.
I'm not really thinking about "am I getting my money's worth?", Giant Bomb is probably my main source of entertainment outside of videogames and my subscription is a small way of helping them keep at it.
Now, that doesn't mean that content (premium or free) shouldn't be under scrutiny; it definitely should. I think a more regular schedule would be a good thing, for example. But we should be able to criticize freely (and I mean proper criticism, not just lame insults and shit like that) without fear of being reproached by GB fans who keep saying everything is always perfect so that their senpai notices them, or whatever.
The problem is, the viewers' tastes are so varied that it's pretty much impossible to keep everyone happy. Like, I love Demo Derby and I really can't stand any more Mario Maker, but there's people who feel the exact opposite. We'll find avid defenders / critics for pretty much any type of content.
It's hard to juggle that and that's why I feel that in the end they should do what they like - there's nothing less interesting than seeing the guys go through the motions not having any fun.
If Giant Bomb ever disappears I will probably stop watching any kind of videogame related entertainment, I just can't stand all that overhype and hyperactive screaming from other places.
I'm not really thinking about "am I getting my money's worth?", Giant Bomb is probably my main source of entertainment outside of videogames and my subscription is a small way of helping them keep at it.
Now, that doesn't mean that content (premium or free) shouldn't be under scrutiny; it definitely should. I think a more regular schedule would be a good thing, for example. But we should be able to criticize freely (and I mean proper criticism, not just lame insults and shit like that) without fear of being reproached by GB fans who keep saying everything is always perfect so that their senpai notices them, or whatever.
The problem is, the viewers' tastes are so varied that it's pretty much impossible to keep everyone happy. Like, I love Demo Derby and I really can't stand any more Mario Maker, but there's people who feel the exact opposite. We'll find avid defenders / critics for pretty much any type of content.
It's hard to juggle that and that's why I feel that in the end they should do what they like - there's nothing less interesting than seeing the guys go through the motions not having any fun.
If Giant Bomb ever disappears I will probably stop watching any kind of videogame related entertainment, I just can't stand all that overhype and hyperactive screaming from other places.
RepairmanJack
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I never even think about my subscription or what I'm getting for it. I pay once a year and as far as I'm concerned it helps the site stick around which is all I really want. I do the same for a podcast I listen to with a patreon, I don't really have anything to do with their patreon content, but I pay because I hope it keeps them around longer.
Agreed 100% with this (except I still love me some Mario Maker content when it's spread out like it is). Wrestling and Giant Bomb make up 95% of my entertainment. I literally watch GB like it's a continuous reality based TV channel about some people playing games.
Same. I'm not saying there aren't any other good content creators out there, but at this stage, if GB ever shutters so does my interest, as the majority of the entertainment 'culture' surrounding video games is terrible and not worth sifting through.
Yeah I agree, and I didn't wanna be 'that' guy that comes to defend GB at every moment but I kind of just enjoy most if not all the content they put out. I might not watch it the second it comes out but I'll get to it eventually
Preach
RepairmanJack
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I just wish they stuck to a streaming schedule. West is so damn bad about that outside of UPF. They already have like 4 shows trading spots for what they do on Wednesday but then it gets even more spread out when they don't stream every wednesday.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Is there a streaming schedule other than upf?
GBEast usually puts out a stream on Wednesday and/or Friday, but I guess it's not a set thing?
RepairmanJack
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West seemed to be streaming every wed for a while and Beast has done pretty well streaming each friday and a second day in the week. It at least seemed like a schedule there for a while.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Weird, maybe it's because any stream other than the ones during the weekends is terrible for me schedule-wise but I can't seem to recall the last regular mid-week stream?
I know they do random streams mid-week from time to time but not anything regular.
I mean its not usually confirmed until on the day itself but between Playdates, CYOA and other misc streams GBEast puts out a stream regularly once a week if not twice.
RepairmanJack
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They did Old Game show for a string of weeks then it seemed to switch to Ranking of Fighters for a string of weeks then those two and MM seemed to just switch out at random and then they all just seemed to stop being regular for intermittent MM.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Oh yeah, I forget that RoF and old games show were livestreamed.
Also looking at the schedule GBeast haven't done a mid-week stream in quite awhile, except maybe that Dark souls 3 thing? No premium stuff from what I can see though.
Also looking at the schedule GBeast haven't done a mid-week stream in quite awhile, except maybe that Dark souls 3 thing? No premium stuff from what I can see though.
NumberThree
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Yeah, it's the same for me. Except most of the time I watch more Giant Bomb than I play games.
As to what content I enjoy from them, MGSV is the first series in the three or so years I've subscribed that I've stopped watching. I'll probably check out the finale.
GBEast has kept me on premium, tbh if it was just GBWest I probably would have cancelled until they built up some backlog of content.
Vinny seems to be the key. It's almost like he was the driving force behind a lot of premium content (and the best premium content imo) Load our Last Save, Random PC game, Breaking Brad - Vinny was in on all of it and now at GBEast he's still getting that premium content done.
Without Vinny it seems like no one over at GBwest cares to do their own series outside of MGScanlon.
Vinny seems to be the key. It's almost like he was the driving force behind a lot of premium content (and the best premium content imo) Load our Last Save, Random PC game, Breaking Brad - Vinny was in on all of it and now at GBEast he's still getting that premium content done.
Without Vinny it seems like no one over at GBwest cares to do their own series outside of MGScanlon.
They did a live stream of them reacting to the Scott Manley video just last week.
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