My thought on it. I don't give a fuck was silly shit they want to do, just don't do screen buttons.
was there a live reaction on the dark souls stream to the nx controller?
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was there a live reaction on the dark souls stream to the nx controller?
This thing absolutely needs to get haptic right to work. If it doesn't, it's a complete flop. Haptic has shown that it has some promise with things like the MacBook trackpad. That thing is indistinguishable from a hinged button version. The question is simulating actual buttons.
Assuming they can simulate actual buttons as well as a mac trackpad, a fully customizable gamepad is a really neat thing. I also love the idea of wheel shoulder buttons.
Here's a link to the patent with several pictures: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20150355768.pdf
It actually has handles there. The whole thing is interesting to scroll through.
I think more people would've believed it if they had done that.
It actually has handles there. The whole thing is interesting to scroll through.
I think more people would've believed it if they had done that.
nckillthegrimace
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It's very pretty, at least. It looks like a Sony device.
The problem is we have no idea how it works or why they thought it didn't need traditional face buttons, so of course people will assume the worst and think it's a terrible nightmare engine. This is why companies don't like leaks. Leaks can create very damaging narratives.
But, you know, this wouldn't be a problem if they announced the thing already and explained it.
skLaFarebear
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It could be a prototype just to test. Assuming that controller is actually real, I doubt it's the exact same thing we'll be seeing when the system releases.
Yep. The Nintendo ninjas are going to murder these people if they find them out. Good luck ever getting a dev kit again, I hope it was worth it!
I remember when the iPhone 4 was leaked and people absolutely tore it to pieces. After it came out, it was (and still is in some circles) as the best iPhone design. It's literally impossible to judge tech by leaks. At this point, I still don't expect any NX news prior to E3, but I'm super interested to hear more. I wish Nintendo would come out and start explaining shit, but Japanese companies are notoriously slow to act.
RepairmanJack
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Hopefully. At least the thing looks less cheap than the Wii U pad.
Incandenza
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Maybe the actual controller part detaches from the outer housing so you can slot it into multiple peripherals? That way some games could hold it portrait-style like a remote or something.
Haptic buttons have been confirmed by pretty much every leak that's come about the thing. It's safe to say that, for this primary controller at lest, that's the direction they're looking. The idea is the controller would be completely customizable. Playing a NES game, you'd have a replica of the NES gamepad. A SNES game? It magically morphs to a SNES pad. Individual games can add as many or few buttons as they need and users are completely free to adjust the position to their individual comfort.
This relies on haptic being ready, though. I kinda doubt Nintendo would bet all on it if it weren't, but we don't know.
Piston Hyundai
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*Amiibubble
Frankly, they should just be capitalizing on how Super Mario Maker is the greatest thing they've ever done.
Incandenza
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Spin up the mixlr machine, I need a hot take from Jeff.
petethepanda
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The perfect ending.
BUNTING1243
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I thought the NX controller looked really cool at first and then I realized it doesn't have any buttons. That seems bad.
Zeouterlimits
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Welp. I really hope they (Namco / from) fix that :-/
Salty Catfish
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Dark Souls gonna Dark Souls.
shortsFortallPeople
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You have to realize that these machines are meant to be sold to parents for their kids
and guess what? A kid who was born when the first iphone launched (2007) has likely grown up with portable gaming that has zero buttons between the iphones and the ipads they've had in their hands
So while us folks look at that and go WHERE ARE THE BUTTONS, some parents are going to look at this and think it's perfectly fine for billy, who plays angry birds on their ipad mini all day
funkystudent
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NX controller seems like another badly thought out Nintendo gimmick which will probably just be used to show the mini map in 90% of games.
I assume they will also be selling a standard / pro controller for it as well though so western 3rd parties have something to work with though.
I wonder if they can do Wii U BC on NX and if the WIi U gamepad can sync to it
I assume they will also be selling a standard / pro controller for it as well though so western 3rd parties have something to work with though.
I wonder if they can do Wii U BC on NX and if the WIi U gamepad can sync to it
But why would Billy want this when he can just play Angry Birds on his ipad mini? Of course, we'll see if Nintendo has an answer to that question, but I kind of doubt they do.
shortsFortallPeople
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i dunno, but nintendo might still be under the misguided belief that apple is eating their lunch, which is likely why we got basically a tablet with buttons for the WiiU in the first place
the nintendo brand still carries some weight with a generation of parents, perhaps they fear that if they lose those parents to apple now then that their fate is sealed
I see a lot of people like you thinking it's pretty much a WiiU controller, but to me it looks totally like a handheld.
edit: Ok, one of the updates now mentions it. That would be super weird to me.
Glitchesarecool
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Actually it will be interesting to see if the NX can capture the mobile gaming market with such design decisions.
Death Metalist
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I'm almost certain that the console will be backwards compatible to previous controllers so it isn't really an issue, it is damn interesting though.
Sure. I'm with you as long as we can both agree that that belief is misguided.
If Nintendo saw the popularity of mobile games and thought "People must love these because they don't have buttons", then Nintendo is far stupider than I ever gave them credit for.
Piston Hyundai
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The Wii seems more and more like a fluke with each passing generation.
It looks like a handheld, but leaker says it's the console controller. I think it's a safe bet the handheld will be dual screen again to match this form factor if they're planning any cross compatibility whatsoever. Etrian Odyssey continues easily to another generation!
It seems like a fair bet this will support most of the Nintendo gamepads that have been released. I fully expect Pro Controller support and Wii remote support for full backwards compatibility. There's almost no reason not to even if Wii BC is just through VC. Pro Controller support will probably be like Wii U and usable on most games most people want to play, so if you don't like this thing, you'll be covered.
DetectiveGaf seems fairly certain this leak is coming out of Massive. Lol Ubisoft.
Right, but, and correct me if I'm out of the loop, isn't the rumoured concept of the NX that the controller will be a self-contained portable platform in its own right?
Nope. Iwata ruled out Hybrid long ago. It's some sort of platform with a shared backend. Whether that means some cross compatibility, easy porting or just a unified UI and account we don't know.
StopMakingSense
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Glitchesarecool
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one generation has passed
Piston Hyundai
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I'm including the 3DS in the equation, but point taken.
RepairmanJack
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With a 1990's label maker.
funkystudent
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https://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=199016280&postcount=1265
Christ. The internet is a heck of a thing.
Actually now the handheld market is being pushed out next gen is going to get real for Nintendo. Portables got them through tough times in the past.
Christ. The internet is a heck of a thing.
Actually now the handheld market is being pushed out next gen is going to get real for Nintendo. Portables got them through tough times in the past.
stump sock
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this can't be true
I would never have anything in the shot that could pinpoint my location. Why would you have your Swedish keyboard there? Amateures!
BUNTING1243
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Sleeping Lesson
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That is... actually quite remarkable. Wow.
shortsFortallPeople
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the 3DS did well, though, so long as you ignore the first year or so. It just didn't do DS levels of amazing, but that might be due to mobile gaming becoming a thing during its generation
If i was nintendo, i'd honestly be pretty confused as to what to do.
The PS4 seems to be doing fine but there's another one coming? Is there even a market for more than one console to do really well when even microsoft seems to be taking steps to shore up their PC engagement?
Or should we concern ourselves with VR?
What about Apple and its mobile market, could we take back some of the marketshare that they've earned?....
You couldn't pay me enough to be part of nintendo's R&D right now because that job seems ulcer inducing
RepairmanJack
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I think this scares me more than it amazes me.
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Never believed Nintendo would lose so many face buttons. At least the shoulder wheels? are still there and maybe the sticks themselves. Excited to try it.
NumberThree
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I see what you did there
Sticks seem to be a hybrid of traditional sticks and the circle pad. Shoulder wheels have been confirmed by every leak, so they are a safe bet (and an interesting innovation).
Someone pointed out that Nintendo has a patent on interchangeable controls on a handheld device. I could easily see that left stick coming out to be replaced with a D-Pad. Gives you the D-Pad control when you need it. Haptic buttons would be fine for weapon switching and other things that are put on the D-Pad as a secondary set of buttons to the stick.
I didn't intend to do it at first, but then I saw it just as I was going to post and had to leave it in. Too good an opportunity to pass up.
Incandenza
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This fucking tree thing is killing me, holy cow.
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