Giant Bombcast E3 2011 Day Zero
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bigdaddygamebot
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StuBurns said:
In a previous bombcast thread...apparently he's a FIB. (He called Nuka Cola, "nuck-ah-cola" as opposed to "nuke-ah-cola")
I'm pleased I finally got to use this term.
Aruarian Reflection
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I don't mind company representatives on a podcast, although I don't enjoy e and Stepto and don't listen to Major Nelson's show because of them. Let's be real, if Reggie was on Bombcast, everybody here would be jerking all over themselves. Bunch of hypocrites, all of ya.
bigdaddygamebot
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Aruarian Reflection said:
I thought "e" and "stepto" were fine.
Even when Jonathon Blow was jabbing at them, they handled themselves well.
EternalGamer
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Somone really needs to make a E3 podcasts thread like the last two years. I am having trouble finding any other than the Giant bomb ones.
bigdaddygamebot said:
Aside from Stepto making ridiculous comparisons between the ads that are all over the 360 UI (which do include ads for cars and other crap no matter how much he wanted to deny that) and the ads within the PSN store for things you can actually buy on the PSN store.
I listen to the Major Nelson podcast almost every week, and enjoy listening to both e and Stepto in that format. But their J Allard-style mentality can't help but show when they get outside their Redmond echo chamber and start talking about the competition and trying to convince people that Kinect is the future of gaming.
EternalGamer said:
Here are a couple. The Eurogamer one is pretty hilarious.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-07-eurogamer-net-e3-podcast-day-1-blog-entry
http://www.geekbox.net/archives/2011/06/07/the-geekbox-episode-121/
HamPster PamPster
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I really really wish we had video of their reaction to Need For Speed: The Run
Would make a great reaction.gif :lol
Would make a great reaction.gif :lol
jon_irenicus
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EternalGamer said:
Definitely. I hate Giant Bomb but it's the only one that frequently shows up on this forum making it difficult to find others. That said, some recent E3 ones I just listened to:
http://epicbattleaxe.com/ (one of my fav weekly listens, especially when Daniel Kayser is on board)
http://www.joystiq.com/podcast/
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/features/hotspot/index.php
http://www.pcgamer.com/category/podcast/us-podcast/
Hot Coldman
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I liked e and stepto. They came across like dudes who are interested in keep a service as good as they can, and hey, they happen to work for Microsoft. They certainly didn't seem like shills. People are really on edge this E3. :/ I enjoyed Blow too. Ryan brought up ads once jokingly but I wish he pushed them on why the fuck the Xbox 360 shows you ads ASAP after boot.
The day 2 podcast is much better so far though.
The day 2 podcast is much better so far though.
Calavera520
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Best part comes towards the end of the first part with the two Microsoft shills when one of levies a threat, "just wait in 10 years you'll look back and say we were right" or some nonsense like that.
AlanzTalon
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Breaking: Xbox public facing hype men go on industry podcast during trade show...hype their product. story at 11.
The first hour was dense, but they are dudes who have spent the last 24 hours talking to industry, media, press outlets. tough to turn it off. They went on the bombcast and talked about their shit. i don't really understand the internet rage of them doing what they are paycheck-compelled to do.
off the soapbox...i like a little inside baseball here and there, they talked about how shit works, what they thought, had a chance to hear criticism first hand from an XBLA dev of note.
The first hour was dense, but they are dudes who have spent the last 24 hours talking to industry, media, press outlets. tough to turn it off. They went on the bombcast and talked about their shit. i don't really understand the internet rage of them doing what they are paycheck-compelled to do.
off the soapbox...i like a little inside baseball here and there, they talked about how shit works, what they thought, had a chance to hear criticism first hand from an XBLA dev of note.
Equus Bellator Apex
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mujun said:
I would talk about how there will always be three tiers of gaming.
1. I have two minutes to kill and I don't really care what I play.
2. I want a more a fulfilling gameplay experience but I'm not near my console.
3. I'm in front of my tv/game console and I'm not going to get up until I'm satisfied.
These tiers aren't governed by a specific platform.
What you have to realize is that there will always be a gap between 1 and 3.
That is why we have portable gaming because it exists in that space.
The iPhone 4 is a great device. The iPhone 5 will be even better.
The the thing is that an iPhone will never have dual analog sticks.
It will always have that control barrier.
No matter how powerful phones get they will never match the functionality of a dedicated portable gaming device.
In terms of the vita. I'm looking at this more like the 360 versus PS3 than PSP vs. DS
So I guess I'm in the minority that believes the vita won't fail.
Not only do I think it won't fail I think the race between the psv and the 3ds will be extremely close
Sorry about the typos :-/
http://www.giantbomb.com/giant-bomb-at-e3-2011-day-00/17-4299/LosDaddie said:
Ice-T not approving cracks me up every time :lol
Equus Bellator Apex
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They talked about it at the very end140.85 said:
get2sammyb
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I heard XBOX is really good. They're always listening to my feedback.
Nappuccino
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Dug said:
You also get to download the videos.
Neuromancer
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1. YesDug said:
2. Knowledge that you have made the world a better place
Oh also access to their mobile site.
I agree, you just saved me the trouble of typing out a long post. The MS shills admitted what they were and actually had legit answers to Blow's complaints about XBL that I never thought about. It was interesting listening to the problems and solutions from a different non-gamer perspective. The only bs defense they had was for the ads.coopolon said:
Equus Bellator Apex said:
I will agree with your premise that there are three tiers of gaming. The percentage of gamers that fall into any given tier is the important part.
I don't think that Tier 2 makes up a big percentage at all. Seems like it would mainly be kids who want to play games for an extended period of time but can't get on a TV. For adults it might be limited to people who fly a lot and the like.
That is why the Vita doesn't interest me personally and also the reason I think it will have an uphill battle competing with devices that do either Tier 1 or 3 well.
Kind of annoying with the Vita talk in that they don't recognize a very large group of people really don't have the luxury of sitting at home or work and playing games on a big screen TV all day.
Some of us have wives, kids, parents, brothers, whatever in the house that are using the TV. Some of us are at work all day where we don't have much time at home but we do have 30 mins to an hour during lunch break. Some of us take the train or subway every day on a long commute. These are people who would love to have a full AAA experience but don't get too many options because their big screen time is limited.
Bravo gaming journalists, you can play games on a 52"-100" screens every day for 24hours a day. Maybe Angry Birds is great for you because the only possible moment you aren't in front of a huge 3DTV is when you're on the toilet. Most people don't have that luxury.
Some of us have wives, kids, parents, brothers, whatever in the house that are using the TV. Some of us are at work all day where we don't have much time at home but we do have 30 mins to an hour during lunch break. Some of us take the train or subway every day on a long commute. These are people who would love to have a full AAA experience but don't get too many options because their big screen time is limited.
Bravo gaming journalists, you can play games on a 52"-100" screens every day for 24hours a day. Maybe Angry Birds is great for you because the only possible moment you aren't in front of a huge 3DTV is when you're on the toilet. Most people don't have that luxury.
Nappuccino
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Dance In My Blood said:
As a fellow Illinois resident, i can confirm this.
The Dutch Slayer
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The knowledge that with your money they get paid and WM/GB keeps existing + they do stupid things that make ME laugh and inform me at the same time so its 100% worth it!Dug said:
Equus Bellator Apex
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Oni Jazar's situation contradicts that notion.mujun said:
Equus Bellator Apex said:
Anecdotal.
Neither of us are going to conduct a professional level survey either so we'll have to keep it at speculation. I disagree with him and think that the segment of gamers he is talking about is a pretty negligible one. PSP sales don't exactly support his or your argument either.
Equus Bellator Apex
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mujun said:
The PSP wasn't a failure the same way the original XBOX wasn't a failure.
It laid down the groundwork for a portable gaming device that didn't have the Nintendo brand on it.
No one else was able to do that until Sony.
I think people naturally want to simplify things.
This was like the casual vs. hardcore argument Blow brought up with the Microsoft guys.
You can't ignore the space in the middle.
It's a sizable gap between 1 and 3.
mujun said:
Yep I feel the same way. It's not that there isn't a market for a dedicated portable gaming machine but just that the market interested in that kind of device has drastically shrunk. It is strictly a hard core and kid's market now and most casuals will just play games on their phones. This goes for the 3DS too. The person who played a few puzzle, brain training, or sudoku games no longer needs a dedicated gaming handheld. They have their phone.
All that being said, I'll probably get a Vita because the price is right and I like all the tech that is included. I will probably only play it in bed though and will barely buy any games. Soundscapes looks awesome though.
Oni Jazar said:
Apples and oranges. Compare it to iOS devices and the DS.
I'll defer to any sales expert/person who understands the economics of the handheld market but I'm under the impression that the PSP is hardly a sales success and the Vita is looking to be an even more risky prospect with Sony taking a huge hit on the hardware and it being even more tech/spec focused than it's predecessor.
I hope it does well. I'm sure the people who buy it will be really happy with it as it looks like insane tech, especially for the price. That doesn't necessarily = set the world on fire sales and/or profit for Sony.
mujun said:
So you're saying that unless the sales can compare to some of the most successful electronic products ever produced it lies within a "negligible" market? The PSP, as a system, is a sales success. Sony made and continues to make a healthy profit on the device. Software is another story, one that Sony hopes to change dramatically with two approaches: 1) The elimination of slow, cumbersome and noisy UMDs and 2) A more secure system that hopefully for them won't be cracked any time soon.
TOP SHOTTA
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Who is the 4th string benchwarmer dude that thinks the whole show is a contest to see who can come up with the snarkiest, cutting comment? He seems to only be on during the Giant Bomb E3 shows. In his opinion everything "TERRRRIBLE" or "EMBARRASSSING" or something. Fucking can't stand it when he's on. He makes me want to buy nothing, and cry a little bit.
Can it all be THAT bad for God's sake, like he claims? No. The answer is no. It can't all be that bad. I find him to be such a "Debbie Downer" kind of bummer-mood creating guy.
I really wish they wouldn't have him on. He quite honestly affects my ability to enjoy the podcast, in a negative way.
Can it all be THAT bad for God's sake, like he claims? No. The answer is no. It can't all be that bad. I find him to be such a "Debbie Downer" kind of bummer-mood creating guy.
I really wish they wouldn't have him on. He quite honestly affects my ability to enjoy the podcast, in a negative way.
PalaceBrother
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coopolon said:
This.
While I am a huge fan of the weekly Bombcast format I found this to be incredibly interesting. I'm not sure where the hate comes from. The Microsoft guys handled themselves professionally & more importantly, pragmatically; they owned up to factors which frequently mitigate innovation on XBL.
Gary was also hilarious. It's great to have him regularly podcasting again (rip Game Theory).
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awesomeapproved said:
You might be talking about the guy from the Screened podcast (Alex?). I find the forced negativity a bit grating as well. We all know people like that in real life and that's probably what makes it more annoying.