Hotel room. But really, why would someone be taking your plate numbers?
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Hotel room. But really, why would someone be taking your plate numbers?
Atramental
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Do you live in a mostly urban or rural area?
Down here in South Carolina I could think of a dozen places that I could park my car and not be bothered. >_>
BoobPhysics101
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Limo tint. It works wonders. Your GF will love you for it.
Atramental
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But what about the car rocking back and forth?
Someone is going to notice that.
Not a clue, but some car stopped a bit behind us and sat there until we drove off. We were behind a random strip mall overlooking the distant road, so this other car was either there for us or because we were taking their spot. Either way, we won't be going back there.
On the outskirts of a decently sized city. Twenty minutes away from nothing, and twenty away from everything.
I'm even scanning google maps for some good locations. Shit, churches around here have huge lots. I'll have to investigate their parking signs.
sazabirules
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Use the privacy of your own room.
luckyboyceo
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Just got back from my 2nd date with the girl in my class. Went great, got the kiss I was going for.
Unfortunately two potential red flags came up:
1. She might be a bible nerd. I don't know this for sure but she mentioned that part of the reason she's going to our school is because of the religious affiliation. I don't mind her being religious, but obviously the issue here is whether that effects her sexually or not. I guess I can cross this bridge when I get there, but I get the feeling she's either really inexperienced sexually (which is fine), or holding out till marriage (which is not fine).
2. She's young. She's a sophomore and I'm a junior but she's young for her grade. She's 18 which in itself is fine, but I just turned 22 and that seems like a hell of an age difference. I was really surprised when she told me, I thought at least she was 20 if not older. She doesn't act like someone who's going on 19 at all.
Anyone have any insight on either or these issues? They're not deal breakers at the moment but the 1st one could be potentially.
Unfortunately two potential red flags came up:
1. She might be a bible nerd. I don't know this for sure but she mentioned that part of the reason she's going to our school is because of the religious affiliation. I don't mind her being religious, but obviously the issue here is whether that effects her sexually or not. I guess I can cross this bridge when I get there, but I get the feeling she's either really inexperienced sexually (which is fine), or holding out till marriage (which is not fine).
2. She's young. She's a sophomore and I'm a junior but she's young for her grade. She's 18 which in itself is fine, but I just turned 22 and that seems like a hell of an age difference. I was really surprised when she told me, I thought at least she was 20 if not older. She doesn't act like someone who's going on 19 at all.
Anyone have any insight on either or these issues? They're not deal breakers at the moment but the 1st one could be potentially.
manipulate
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That age gap is nothing, dude. I'm 24 and I was considering dating an 18 year old chick this year (in the end I decided against it for other reasons).
You could just ask her straight out how important religion is to her?
You could just ask her straight out how important religion is to her?
I'm 25, I was going out with a 19 year old. No matter how mature they say they are sometimes, never believe it!
Current GF is 26, smart move!
Atramental
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I might be able to help on the bible nerd part because I'm an atheist bible nerd (the worst/best kind of bible nerd).
She might have sex with you because "Jesus" will forgive her no matter how many "sins" she commits. Also, some Christians are really good at managing their guilt.
What denomination is she of?
She might have sex with you because "Jesus" will forgive her no matter how many "sins" she commits. Also, some Christians are really good at managing their guilt.
What denomination is she of?
CherryWoodFuton
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1. I know a lot of bible nerds that are really freaky in the sack. I wouldn't worry about it too much until the subject of sex comes up. Obviously if she wants to be abstinent until marriage then you know what to do....
2. "Age aint nothin but a number" as Aaliyah would say (RIP). It's all about her maturity level.
Anyways any advice for someone who wants to hook up with a girl within a social circle??? I've been hanging out with a clique full of girls for quite some time and one of the girls is showing some serious interest in me. The only problem I have is that hooking up could potentially ruin my relationship with this group.....
The age is nothing to worry about. The bible nerd thing is something to be worried about -- especially if she's a Jesus Freak of sorts. I only say that as I could never date someone who is a religious freak.
TheSchwab_7
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My ex is 18 and I'm 21. From my experience, the age won't matter unless she's really immature and doesn't know who she is. It's good that she acts much older that she is. The religion thing may be a problem. If religion is important to her and not to you, then there could be problems down the road. Congrats on the date tho!
luckyboyceo
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Thanks for all the insight guys. Good to know the age thing isn't all that drastic, I was just unsure seeing as I've never been that far down that road before.
As far as the religion goes, I'm mostly worried about the things that come with it. Beyond sex even. I mean hell, I'm religious myself but I don't let it run my life (contradictory, I know, but that's a topic for another day). To Atramental, I'm not sure her denomination, but my school is Methodist, so if I had to guess it'd be that.
She's hard to read. At times she seems very innocent, other times she seems like she could be a freak. Either way, the plan is to get her over to my place over winter break and find out.
As far as the religion goes, I'm mostly worried about the things that come with it. Beyond sex even. I mean hell, I'm religious myself but I don't let it run my life (contradictory, I know, but that's a topic for another day). To Atramental, I'm not sure her denomination, but my school is Methodist, so if I had to guess it'd be that.
She's hard to read. At times she seems very innocent, other times she seems like she could be a freak. Either way, the plan is to get her over to my place over winter break and find out.
How so? I'd still say go for it. You'll probably be kicking yourself if you don't.
I don't think that most women aren't self-aware enough to let religion guide their life even if they think they are religious. Their mind will work out excuses for "bad" behaviour.
Atramental
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Methodists can be somewhat liberal when it comes to their religion but there are conservative Methodists as well.
Most Methodists I have met fall into the liberal category.
Most Methodists I have met fall into the liberal category.
Ok i'm trying to make sense of this.
Yesterday these 4 girls showed me porn in my room.
Afterwards I had a conversation with two of them and we ended up talking about our sex lives.
They were curious about my sex life.
Girls are a strange breed huh?
I don't think they were flirting but I don't usually do that kind of stuff with multiple girls in my room.
Yesterday these 4 girls showed me porn in my room.
Afterwards I had a conversation with two of them and we ended up talking about our sex lives.
They were curious about my sex life.
Girls are a strange breed huh?
I don't think they were flirting but I don't usually do that kind of stuff with multiple girls in my room.
Bucket-o-roadkill
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Ave22, sounds like you live in the setting of a horror movie. Fuck that!
Regarding age, I'd definitely say the closer the better. The girl I'm still trying to get over was the closest to my age. The worst gf I've ever had was the furthest away. Probably coincidence though!
Regarding age, I'd definitely say the closer the better. The girl I'm still trying to get over was the closest to my age. The worst gf I've ever had was the furthest away. Probably coincidence though!
Hey GAF, what's the best way of putting a friend in the friendzone? A coworker, female, 19 years old, virgin, has a crush on me and I can totally tell. I just don't find her attractive (although, dat ass). How should I go about this without hurting her feelings? I'm 22 and don't want a serious thing now, just a fuck-buddy, she on the other hand wants a boyfriend and all that shit.
I know I sound like a douche for saying this, but you could probably convince her to be a fuck-buddy despite her boyfriend-seeking mentality.
Subtervotion
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One of my old gfs told me she'd 'never love me as much as she loves jesus'.
I should have left the exact second she said that.
Has she actually asked you out on a date? You could just ignore her flirtations. Or she's just flirty by nature and you're mis-reading her signals. Other than that you could just say you're not interested in her and that is a sure-fire way to get in a girl's pants.
tell them you're a virgin, even if you're not.
Ghost_Protocol
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Help Gaf!
- Girl I'm interested in and her dad work at my job, in different departments
- Dad works in my department, girl works in another
- My department is rather big, so I don't know the dad personally, but I've seen him around
- I've talked to the girl a few times, briefly, and she told me her dad works in my department
- Could I ask the dad if his daughter has a boyfriend?
- Girl I'm interested in and her dad work at my job, in different departments
- Dad works in my department, girl works in another
- My department is rather big, so I don't know the dad personally, but I've seen him around
- I've talked to the girl a few times, briefly, and she told me her dad works in my department
- Could I ask the dad if his daughter has a boyfriend?
brucewaynegretzky
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Ghost_Protocol
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Because it's creepy as all hell if you've never spoken to him before. Also, he'll probably tell her before you get the chance to talk to her and that'll ruin 90% of any chance.
Ghost_Protocol
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I'll take yall's word for it then. I see this girl at least once a day in passing and was hoping to save myself some embarrassment by not asking her directly. I work mostly with grown men (engineering) and most of them are dads anyway, so I didn't think it would be a big deal. Plus nearly all of them are pretty down-to-earth, laid back dudes. I was going to just say something like, "Hey, are you so & so's dad? you are? yeah she told me her dad works in this area. I'm X,. I was wondering.......do you know if she has a boyfriend?"
If that's too creepy, I'll back off.
If that's too creepy, I'll back off.
brucewaynegretzky
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Why would you be embarassed if you ask out a girl who has a boyfriend? As long as she doesn't play games with you there's nothing wrong with it. She can just politely say, "Sorry I have a boyfriend." This used to happen to my ex every once in a while. She never thought any less of the guys. The only issue is when you don't even bother to get the person well enough to ask them out. Often my ex would say "If he actually bothered to talk to me and get to know me I likely would have mentioned my boyfriend." If you've been talking to this girl for a little while there's nothing wrong with just asking her.
Yes that's very creepy. And no dad wants to hear about guys asking out their daughter. He'd probably be thinking to himself, "Why the hell can't you ask her yourself?"
FallingEdge
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Yeah, it is creepy. Plus, it is your workplace. It just comes off as awkward.
Ask her, or don't ask period.
Asking the dad is weird. He'll probably say yes regardless.
Don't even ask if she has a boyfriend, just strike up a conversation, then ask her out to coffee, or drinks (depending on your age, can't tell if you're in the 18-21 range, but it seems possible).
Asking the dad is weird. He'll probably say yes regardless.
Don't even ask if she has a boyfriend, just strike up a conversation, then ask her out to coffee, or drinks (depending on your age, can't tell if you're in the 18-21 range, but it seems possible).
Words of wisdom, right here.
I haven't done something like that in... never. I don't know if I'm gonna be able to pull that off. The thing with a virgin girl like she is that they eventually "fall in love" with the first guy that fucks them. That's what I think it happens, I never had a virgin
She hasn't. But we are together pretty much all the time at work. We work together, we eat lunch together, etc. We almost every day joke about sex, and she insinuates that she wants to "try it". I know, I'm such an idiot. The funny thing is she had a bf recently that only wanted to have sex with her, and they broke up because I think she wasn't ready. I don't know if she is being open with me because she's actually ready to do it with me 'cause I don't treat her like her ex bf or is she is just fooling around.
I already told them i've had sex before. :\
They were surprised when I told them I fucked for two hours and couldn't come my first time.
Etrian Oddity
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Eugh, I was gonna call you an idiot for not jumping on that opportunity, but then i saw the bolded. Do not dip your pen.
they didn't ask you to prove it?? FAIL!
Well you act like i'm supposed to do something here....
I wouldn't mind hooking up with two of the girls but...I dunno what do do exactly. :\
I wouldn't doubt I could do something if they were drunk but that isn't exactly difficult to do or anything.
luckyboyceo
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There's your answer. Go for it. Deal with the repercussions later.
No but in all seriousness, it doesn't sound to me like a situation you can turn into a casual sex thing. She's a virgin so she'll want her first time to be meaningful, obviously. You're either all the way in our all the way out on this one, and I'd probably advise out. She'd be a clinger for sure.
Fortunately, I don't think she's THAT much of a a jesus freak, but if she says anything along those lines, I'm out.
What exactly are you even asking? So what if it's not difficult. Are you trying to make this challenging for yourself or something?
You had an opening and you didn't take advantage of it. If you're fortunate enough to get a next time, then take advantage of the situation and make a move on her. I don't know what more you want us to say.
If she's sitting alone at a table (like at a cafe or something), go up to her and ask if anyone else is using an empty chair, as if you want to borrow it to sit with your friends. When she says no, sit down and introduce yourself.
But realistically, if you're good looking and charismatic, you can ask something stupid like who her favorite My Little Pony is and eight times out of ten she'll be receptive.
Two of the girls wanna watch porn with me again....
Hmm... We'll see what happens.
CherryWoodFuton
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I message random girl with Ray Bans
"Hey you have very nice glasses but I think mines are better.....Take a look
"
She responds
"sooo complimenting yourself is supposed to make me want to talk to you?"
"Hey you have very nice glasses but I think mines are better.....Take a look
"She responds
"sooo complimenting yourself is supposed to make me want to talk to you?"
DualShadow
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Obviously worked since she responded. But she sounds like a bitch in that reply imo.
The girl stalker thing is a great icebreaker, but you did it wrong. Never approach a girl from behind and tap her on the shoulder. Same thing applies in a bar. If you do that, you surprise her, put her on the defensive because you're a stranger, and then the atmosphere of the conversation is all wrong.
What I do is if I notice a girl walking in the same direction as me for a while, but she is behind me, I'll say something like, "You really should be more subtle in your stalking... like hang back further so it's not so obvious." As I'm saying this loudly, I'll turn around and she can tell I'm joking. The 'turn around' when you're already in front of her is much more acceptable than surprising her from the back, and touching her is even more invasive.
It's a great opener though, as it leads to easy role-play, and you can take it too far by saying things like "So was that you in the tree with the binoculars last night?" If you're not getting a smile or a look of her being flustered, work on your delivery.
I don't often use a car, but I've gone the distance in one before. We parked in a multi-level parking structure in a deserted portion that was high enough up that people parked below if they wanted a spot. Only one car drove by the entire time and they probably didn't even notice.
I suggest avoiding parks at night. I tried that once, and a cop came up and asked us to leave. That was pretty embarrassing because everyone knew what was going on, despite tinted windows.
Since there has been a rise in the online dating talk here I figured I would share.
Lately I have been getting at least two messages a day from new girls. I really don't know what is in my profile that draws their attention but something is working. I'm a decent looking guy but I have a baby face like no other. Some of the girls are pretty attractive but others are not at all. I have a couple of dates lined up next week just to see what happens. I have probably like a 70% response rate to messages that I send out. I usually just try to find something in their profile that we share in common and make my message about that. I don't write out long messages about lots of things because I know when I get a message like that I feel like it's just trying too hard.
Lately I have been getting at least two messages a day from new girls. I really don't know what is in my profile that draws their attention but something is working. I'm a decent looking guy but I have a baby face like no other. Some of the girls are pretty attractive but others are not at all. I have a couple of dates lined up next week just to see what happens. I have probably like a 70% response rate to messages that I send out. I usually just try to find something in their profile that we share in common and make my message about that. I don't write out long messages about lots of things because I know when I get a message like that I feel like it's just trying too hard.
manipulate
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Sigh, sorry about length guys. I'm just kinda cut because I like this girl a lot and I thought everything was going really well.
So I've been seeing this girl, met her a party a month ago (halloween!). First date went fine, second date went really well, we kiss for a while and she tells me she wants to take it slow etc. I'm like yeah sure whatever cos apparently she broke up with her ex quite recently (few weeks before I met her). Anyway, third date goes alright as well - we kiss a bit more, and I'm thinking yeah OK this is basically a done deal since we're getting pretty close.
After that though, she keeps bailing on our dates for what I have to say have all sounded like completely legitimate reasons, but yeah... Eventually I see her last night, and strangely she only lets me kiss her on the cheek at first but I don't really think anything of it (I figure maybe it's because we haven't seen each other in a while). However she gets one of her friends to rock up to the cafe we were at, and we go to this art exhibition thing with her and meet another one of her friends. I'm a bit miffed cos I haven't seen her in what feels like a while and she's basically turned it into hanging out with her friends? It seems particularly weird because she's leaving for dubai for an entire month in like 1.5 weeks.
So at the end I'm thinking well at least I'll give her a ride home and we can have some alone time, except then she says she wants to get the bus with her friend and I'm like whatever - I take them to the bus stop and say cya. A little while after she texts me saying I seemed quiet near the end tonight and I say yeah don't worry I'm fine, just wondering, am I likely to see you before you jump off to dubai? And she goes oh I sure hope so, but my dad's coming over so I don't know how much free time I'll have. At this point I'm completely bemused so I text her back asking straight out if she wants to date me or not, and she replies with:
'[me], to be completely honest, I don't think I'm in the right mind/emotional state to date anyone at all yet....I'm not ready. And I know I told you before I wanted to take it slow, I shouldn't have, but you make it very hard because I'm really attracted to you and you're so smart and funny...you're great honestly. It's just not the time for me yet I wish it were but I just need a friend. I understand completely if you don't want to be one, you deserve a lot better, I'm sorry.'
I say yeah OK I understand, but I don't want to string myself along being your 'friend' cos that's a shitty situation. She responds with:
'Thank you for understanding and I'm sorry you feel that way, but obviously I understand too....getting to know you meant/means something, you're a special person [me]. Have a greet week ahead.'
I'm kinda cut about the implicit suggestion here, so I text her saying ok fine, but what's the real reason? She says:
'[me] l I respect and like you a lot more than to give you a fake reason or an excuse you have to believe me...it's just off timing and you dont know me that much, you only see happy me....part of me is happy and past it all, the other part is not coping well at all with my breakup. Hence just giving myself time/space...and knowing better than to risk hurting you by not giving you everything you deserve. I'm not ready....Id on't know why, but I'm just not. Only time will determine...'
So I say well fine, I like you a lot but I restate my position about not wanting to be in that situation where I'm 'friends' with you just hoping you'll change your mind, it's just kind of pathetic, so maybe we should just stop hanging out. She says:
'That's why I'm so sorry but I understand....I hate this, and I hate that I've put you in this situation. I'm sorry....'
I'm really frustrated and kind of pissed off by now, so I figure alright, and I stop texting her and go to sleep. The next morning I wake up to a message from her saying 'So you're not going to speak to me now?' I reply saying I'll think about it and we've basically just been talking as per normal today. Anyway, she's leaving for a month in like a week so I don't know what to do. What I don't understand is that she was only in a relationship with her ex for like 4 months allegedly - I don't see how upset she could possibly be about that STILL. I have a hard time believing she'd tell some dude she really really liked that she 'wasn't ready' either.. so my perhaps overly-cynical interpretation of events is that she's decided she doesn't want to keep dating me but wants the attention or something?
Help me out gaf. Soz about the length and chaotic structure =/
So I've been seeing this girl, met her a party a month ago (halloween!). First date went fine, second date went really well, we kiss for a while and she tells me she wants to take it slow etc. I'm like yeah sure whatever cos apparently she broke up with her ex quite recently (few weeks before I met her). Anyway, third date goes alright as well - we kiss a bit more, and I'm thinking yeah OK this is basically a done deal since we're getting pretty close.
After that though, she keeps bailing on our dates for what I have to say have all sounded like completely legitimate reasons, but yeah... Eventually I see her last night, and strangely she only lets me kiss her on the cheek at first but I don't really think anything of it (I figure maybe it's because we haven't seen each other in a while). However she gets one of her friends to rock up to the cafe we were at, and we go to this art exhibition thing with her and meet another one of her friends. I'm a bit miffed cos I haven't seen her in what feels like a while and she's basically turned it into hanging out with her friends? It seems particularly weird because she's leaving for dubai for an entire month in like 1.5 weeks.
So at the end I'm thinking well at least I'll give her a ride home and we can have some alone time, except then she says she wants to get the bus with her friend and I'm like whatever - I take them to the bus stop and say cya. A little while after she texts me saying I seemed quiet near the end tonight and I say yeah don't worry I'm fine, just wondering, am I likely to see you before you jump off to dubai? And she goes oh I sure hope so, but my dad's coming over so I don't know how much free time I'll have. At this point I'm completely bemused so I text her back asking straight out if she wants to date me or not, and she replies with:
'[me], to be completely honest, I don't think I'm in the right mind/emotional state to date anyone at all yet....I'm not ready. And I know I told you before I wanted to take it slow, I shouldn't have, but you make it very hard because I'm really attracted to you and you're so smart and funny...you're great honestly. It's just not the time for me yet I wish it were but I just need a friend. I understand completely if you don't want to be one, you deserve a lot better, I'm sorry.'
I say yeah OK I understand, but I don't want to string myself along being your 'friend' cos that's a shitty situation. She responds with:
'Thank you for understanding and I'm sorry you feel that way, but obviously I understand too....getting to know you meant/means something, you're a special person [me]. Have a greet week ahead.'
I'm kinda cut about the implicit suggestion here, so I text her saying ok fine, but what's the real reason? She says:
'[me] l I respect and like you a lot more than to give you a fake reason or an excuse you have to believe me...it's just off timing and you dont know me that much, you only see happy me....part of me is happy and past it all, the other part is not coping well at all with my breakup. Hence just giving myself time/space...and knowing better than to risk hurting you by not giving you everything you deserve. I'm not ready....Id on't know why, but I'm just not. Only time will determine...'
So I say well fine, I like you a lot but I restate my position about not wanting to be in that situation where I'm 'friends' with you just hoping you'll change your mind, it's just kind of pathetic, so maybe we should just stop hanging out. She says:
'That's why I'm so sorry but I understand....I hate this, and I hate that I've put you in this situation. I'm sorry....'
I'm really frustrated and kind of pissed off by now, so I figure alright, and I stop texting her and go to sleep. The next morning I wake up to a message from her saying 'So you're not going to speak to me now?' I reply saying I'll think about it and we've basically just been talking as per normal today. Anyway, she's leaving for a month in like a week so I don't know what to do. What I don't understand is that she was only in a relationship with her ex for like 4 months allegedly - I don't see how upset she could possibly be about that STILL. I have a hard time believing she'd tell some dude she really really liked that she 'wasn't ready' either.. so my perhaps overly-cynical interpretation of events is that she's decided she doesn't want to keep dating me but wants the attention or something?
Help me out gaf. Soz about the length and chaotic structure =/
Ok so one of the girls that watched porn with me apparently thinks i'm attractive according to a friend of mine and hers.
She also thinks i'm intelligent and deep.
What should I do exactly?
So far i'm thinking to just play it cool and do what i've been doing so far. I don't know how to transition it to a further point though.
She also thinks i'm intelligent and deep.
What should I do exactly?
So far i'm thinking to just play it cool and do what i've been doing so far. I don't know how to transition it to a further point though.
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