Femmeworth
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I don't know how to respond to shanshan's post without being creepy, so I'll just quote this.
Mitsuho's posts make sense, you just have to be willing to put forth the effort to understand them.
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GirlGAF |OT 2| Shall I Compare Thee to a Summer's Eve?
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idlethreats
Member
Shan, that modcloth dress looks ~fantastic~! And everything else too, but that dress in particular ^_^
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
I have no reason to do so.
I can accept that. Please encourage your friends to talk to someone if they ever feel angry in response to an intimate partner who tells them 'no' or 'stop'. Or an intimate partner expresses that they feel worthless, unloved, or 'not good enough.' These are signs that they aren't as immune as they think they are.
This! Love how you look in that dress. And I see your rilakkuma bin in the back! <3
Femmeworth
Banned
Because there is absolutely no cost to using porn, or social implications. Nope, none at all.
To address this too, lust like any strong emotional feeling can alter ones perception of another. Whether that results in dehumanization is up for debate, as is whether dehumanization is always bad.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
BladeWorker
Member
That's so sad! At least get him some jam before you chomp down. Or nutella. Nutella and banana.
That dress was nagging me all day, until I figured out what it reminded me of.I found another amazing clothing site: www.pinupgirlclothing.com
So many cute navy dresses! I really like that they've used a whole variety of models with different body types.
Speaking of which, my dresses came in!
Blackmilk on the left, and Modcloth on the right.
I also ended up buying those gameboy bathers: http://i.imgur.com/lKaVXzK.png
What do you mean by social implications? Tons of people use porn as a masturbatory aid.
BladeWorker
Member
Some who get addicted to porn - and even some who are just casual viewers - get the idea that the situations they encounter on those screens are exactly what sex should be like in real life, and they treat their partners and relationships accordingly.
At least that's what I take from "social implications"
At least that's what I take from "social implications"
Not gonna lie, when I was younger, I worked in a movie store and I'd judge some people who came in to rent porn.
HOWEVER, people who rent porn generally don't know how to use the Internet, and are therefore much older. And then they're all "hey 18 year old I'm renting Cumshot 50, you into that?????" Lol.
No thanks.
If there was a younger couple though that were all "teehee we're renting this together!
", then I was like, power to you.
HOWEVER, people who rent porn generally don't know how to use the Internet, and are therefore much older. And then they're all "hey 18 year old I'm renting Cumshot 50, you into that?????" Lol.
No thanks.
If there was a younger couple though that were all "teehee we're renting this together!
", then I was like, power to you.If they did it with a straight face I wouldn't judge. I would be like "You got heart, you got heart"
I feel like I am intruding here, but I just wanted to share my opinion super quick.
I think there are social implications to using porn, but just about everything in the world comes with social implications. I mean there are social implications to cars, to books, heck to the internet in general - things that can be framed positively or negatively. But the concepts of these things in and of themselves are more often than not neutral. At least that's how I find it.
Sexuality... lust... promiscuity or whatever, these things mean different things to different people. I feel like that's a really simple way to frame it - but I think it's important that it's said. I can't really understand it, but I guess some people feel... demeaned? by the idea of someone lusting after them or insulted by the sheer idea of someone lusting after people on the internet.
But I mean.... really? Doesn't that get a bit thought policey? If people lust after someone they meet and person and make up sexual fantasies in their heads, if they lust after a make believe person, if they lust after some amateur porn stars on the internet... who are they hurting? Why is this necessarily a bad thing? Why does sex and sexuality have to be something... particularly 'sacred' I guess? Some people really really like sex, some people like seeing other people have sex, some people spend all day sexualizing every part of their lives because it makes them happy - and who cares if they do?
I don't think anyone should look at porn if they don't want to, and I don't expect everyone to whole heartedly support the pornographic industry (I'm not considering amateur porn here) - but I do think that this dehumanization stuff is completely off the mark. There aren't many things more representative of our humanity than our sexuality.
It can be much subtler than that. It can change our understanding of what is attractive, of what is appropriate, and what is pleasing.
In some ways this might be a good thing, mind you; I'm not saying this is uniformly bad, just that they represent social implications. To support this position, consider that our cultural perceptions of sexy men have gotten progressively larger and more muscular, while our perceptions of women have gotten thinner, over the last several decades.
Did pornography have any effect on these changing values? It's impossible to say. Sociology is already a very soft science, and when we talk about subtle sociological effects, we can do nothing but guess. I would just say it's within the realm of possibility.
I agree with much of what you said, Kinitari, but I would argue with this. I think a realistic portrayal of our sexuality would be humane. I do not think most American pornography fits that description, however. That does not mean that I think pornography is especially bad, mind you -- I watch porn myself -- just that I wouldn't support it for the reasons you've used here.
BladeWorker
Member
I can understand your perspective that you shouldn't be judged for what you think of porn. Consenting adults, people are the sum of their experiences, free country, yadda yadda. But, the constructed images of women generated by pornography - hell, even the constructed images of men - do not reflect reality. And, by a certain logic, that which is not "real" is not, in its essence, "human", and accordingly, not wholly reflective of human sexuality. It is possible, on this logic, to argue that porn is dehumanizing, as it constructs an alternate reality where that which was image - fiction, even - is the ideal reality, and what was real is now not sexual enough. And, in a world where to be human is to be a sexual being as well, not human enough.
In the same way that you don't want to be judged for what you think, those who argue that porn is dehumanizing don't want to be judged for not wanting to be seen in constant comparison to an objectified construct that is used for someone's entertainment and gratification.
Devolution
Member
A lot of porn is simply not representative of our sexuality or realistic (same with sex in movies). Now I watch it but plenty of it is racist and depicts some non-realities including physical capabilities of some people and their ability to orgasm.
Now the women in these things might be able to cum from penetration alone, hence their career, but a lot of women simply can't. When you look at a cross section of porn you wouldn't really know this at all. Not to mention how some just jump right into rough sex or even just the entire cock inside straight out the gate (in the video), also not exactly realistic either.
I'm sure I don't need to get into the physical conditioning of expected sizes, figures, and hair landscaping either.
If you're arguing for a more sexually representative experience porn (and of course I'm speaking quite generally here) isn't always it either. At the end of the day it's an idealized sex display.
Now the women in these things might be able to cum from penetration alone, hence their career, but a lot of women simply can't. When you look at a cross section of porn you wouldn't really know this at all. Not to mention how some just jump right into rough sex or even just the entire cock inside straight out the gate (in the video), also not exactly realistic either.
I'm sure I don't need to get into the physical conditioning of expected sizes, figures, and hair landscaping either.
If you're arguing for a more sexually representative experience porn (and of course I'm speaking quite generally here) isn't always it either. At the end of the day it's an idealized sex display.
Devolution
Member
What's your diet? How old are you? How much water are you currently drinking? Are you physically active?
I try to eat right I eat 3 boiled eggs and turkey bacon for breakfast. Lunch I usually cook yesterday I had Salmon and rice and dinner I eat whatever my mom makes. The weekends my diet is horrible pizza McDonald's , chicken wings , Sugary cereals, Chinese food, etc.
I'm 19 years old, I stopped drinking soda completely and my face cleared up a lot but I always get 4 huge pimples at the worst times. I drink Water all day except on the weekends that's where the alcohol comes in. But I usually go threw 24 bottles a week. (Of water)
I go to the gym 6 days a week run a mile on the treadmill and my workout.
Devolution
Member
So you don't need to improve your diet or regiment, then I'd consider getting either an acne treatment or facial wipes. If you get anything to treat your acne you'll definitely need a moisturizer because it will dry out your face.
Any recommendations? Idek where to start. I use dove soap for my face in the morning and at night with a little witch hazel and that worked to an extent but not all the way.
Well it's difficult for something like this to be quantified, and I am by no means a porn aficionado, so I couldn't tell you what most American porn is or isn't like.
That being said, I don't know if anyone really could tell you what a realistic portrayal of sexuality is for anyone - people have been into some pretty kinky shit for a very very long time. I think porn might... pass ideas around that would have once remained in the bedrooms of a select few. However if you are talking about the body-types of people in pornography when you say porn is not realistic... maybe. But I don't know if that is dehumanizing - lot of people have pretty 'pornographic' body types, ie slim females with large breasts/muscular men. I don't know if that makes them less human
.Not trying to argue for the sake of arguing, I'm just really trying to prod at everyone so I can piece together a better idea of how ya'll think!
Hmmm... well, I kind of touched on it with my response to Opiate - but sometimes those 'constructed images of men and women in pornography' fall in line with the body types of the people watching it. I don't know if that's a product of porn or vice versa, or a general product of society (or maybe just some people have porny bodies) - but I don't think it's necessarily fair to say people who reflect the body types of those in the highly processed pornographies are 'less than human' (not exactly what you are saying, but I couldn't think of another way to phrase it).
And while I appreciate that a lot of women and men probably feel constantly compared to the standards of beauty in pornographic media (honestly, I'd put this in the spectrum of all media), I don't know what could be expected to change. You can't try and sway people into accepting some other form of beauty, not easily at least - and even if you could, you'd just be doing what porn is doing except in a way that matches your own particular ideals and subjectivity.
I can sympathize with the people who feel as though pornography is putting undue pressure on them to behave/look a particular way... but if I am honest with myself I think that is just a more overarching side effect on a media rich society. Heck even just a regular run of the mills society - these sorts of 'hot' and 'not' trends are pretty historic.
Anyway, I don't want to derail the girl thread, I just saw this discussion and thought it was pretty darn interesting - so I'll leave you peeps to go back to doing what you were doing!
Devolution
Member
I use some really harsh Oxy Daily Wipes, you can get them on Amazon for cheaper than the store if you have prime.
MisterNugNug
Member
So I don't know you personally, so I'm probably stating the obvious; but washing pillow cases, sheets and blankets is another thing to be mindful of. I wash mine once a week. I figure if you're spending 7-9 hours each day on your bed, its probably got dead skin cells and other crap from the day (depending on how through you are with showering and washing your face).
Mineshaft_Gap
4077th
I can forgive the lack of reality in porn for the fact that it isn't meant to be realistic. It's meant to be idealized, a fantasy. The way sex is portrayed in porn may not authentically represent physiological normalcy but that doesn't make it intrinsically inhuman. After all, it's very human to fantasize.
My inability it relate to porn stems from the fact that I watch it and what I see doesn't represent my fantasy. I could, and would enjoy porn that appealed to my desires and fantasies.
There's a certain x factor to actual sex that porn could never fill for me though. I could masturbate to the thought or memory of that feeling but I couldn't replicate it visually in a porn.
My inability it relate to porn stems from the fact that I watch it and what I see doesn't represent my fantasy. I could, and would enjoy porn that appealed to my desires and fantasies.
There's a certain x factor to actual sex that porn could never fill for me though. I could masturbate to the thought or memory of that feeling but I couldn't replicate it visually in a porn.
Mineshaft_Gap
4077th
Has anyone ever gotten emotional during sex? Maybe not cried, but you know what I mean.
A while ago when my boyfriend and I were having sex we were changing positions back to missionary. When he reached on the shelf behind me I asked what he was doing. He was getting his glasses and all he said was "I want to look at you."
Obviously he looks at me all the time, compliments me etc. Just something about the way he said it and the situation made me feel like the most beautiful and loved person in the world. :singletear
A while ago when my boyfriend and I were having sex we were changing positions back to missionary. When he reached on the shelf behind me I asked what he was doing. He was getting his glasses and all he said was "I want to look at you."
Obviously he looks at me all the time, compliments me etc. Just something about the way he said it and the situation made me feel like the most beautiful and loved person in the world. :singletear
lol
Well, that isn't an actual picture of my breakfast, I got that off the net. I do sometimes have jam on it, but most of the time I just slap a bit of butter on it. It's just quick and easy to make. People say breakfast is the most important meal of the day, but I've only ever really had toast or cereal for breakfast.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
shanshan310
Member
I usually make some kind of hot breakfast. Baked beans or eggs on toast, or something with rice if I've got time. Its not really much extra effort to fry an egg. Toasted sandwiches are pretty easy too, as are fruit salads. You don't even have to eat breakfasty things for breakfast if you don't wanna.
You guys are just the cutest couple. I have, but I find its hard to be lovely-dovey and "in the mood" at the same time.
You guys are just the cutest couple. I have, but I find its hard to be lovely-dovey and "in the mood" at the same time.
Yeah. There are some things I would just feel weird eating at breakfast though - like steak for instance. I might try some of those American-style breakfast pancakes.
I might do that actually. Sounds quite nice.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
Only in GirlGAF can a porntalk end like that. Smh. I give up, I'll just ignore it next time someone talks about it.
Devolution
Member
I had some awesome sex last night devoid of any porn. mmmmm.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
I hope it wasn't dirty, cuz you know the social ramifications and shit.
Devolution
Member
Nah. But legs up hits some nice spots for me.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Devolution
Member
It's never really been much of a problem. People see him and me, wonder how I'm not dead but I'm built pretty sturdy despite my size. The only thing that bothers me is a bad position but that's easily fixed by shifting around.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
It's mostly due to him being much bigger and heavier, being under someone like that ain't precisely easy.
Although there's a very obvious appeal in that, as well.
It's much more likely that he buys one, which is sad as fuck.
Devolution
Member
Yes.
Being under isn't too bad but the position of vanilla missionary just doesn't do much for me.
Lol awww I was just talking about my own stupid experiences. Haha. <3
Yes, please. What has he done now? Last thing I heard was the fight in a parking lot over a space and Rihanna getting back with him.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
While I'm not the biggest fan of it, missionary can be pretty cool when I'm more tired than he is and he really, really shows that he wants to do it. Which isn't often but it happens.
If we're face to face I much prefer to be on top, tho. With the big guy thing I meant, there's not a whole lot of physical activities where a big guy can get exhausted before I do, and what the hell, feelsgoodman.
Al-ibn Kermit
Junior Member
So any girls here have some advice on how to proceed with a bisexual girl who hasn't been with a dude in 5 years? I told her to make any first moves when she was comfortable but after 4 dates she suggests trying to drink to get her nerve up but I said that I could just jump her the instant we meet again which she thought was a fucking awesome idea.
Yes I'm a dude but it makes me wonder if girl-girl relationships are even more awkward.
Who in the fuck watches the "situations" in porn? It is normal to have fantasies about people you are attracted to.
Yes I'm a dude but it makes me wonder if girl-girl relationships are even more awkward.
Who in the fuck watches the "situations" in porn? It is normal to have fantasies about people you are attracted to.
I've been reading some things about female gamers who stream (i.e on Twitch.tv), and found it rather interesting and wanted to share. Just a couple links:
http://kotaku.com/5982137/theyre-at...ternet-but-theyre-not-camwhores?post=57095337
http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlGamers/comments/15v57z/streamers_webcam_or_no/
I actually stream on occasion, and started using a webcam recently... but I don't really feel comfortable doing it even though I don't really get many viewers. Thoughts? Does anyone else in GirlGAF stream?
http://kotaku.com/5982137/theyre-at...ternet-but-theyre-not-camwhores?post=57095337
http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlGamers/comments/15v57z/streamers_webcam_or_no/
I actually stream on occasion, and started using a webcam recently... but I don't really feel comfortable doing it even though I don't really get many viewers. Thoughts? Does anyone else in GirlGAF stream?
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I stream but I don't do cam or voice.
Mineshaft_Gap
4077th
It gets boring after a while but sometimes it's just right. I for one, enjoy the butterfly.
Femmeworth
Banned
That is true. I think porn in general is a net positive for society, though not all forms and styles are equal.
It is demeaning to an extent to view someone as a sex object, of course it could be a negligible amount. Also it varies by case.
The issue is less on the micro level and more on the macro.
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Slightly offtopic rant :
I was playing Mrs Splosion Man on XBLA and it got me thinking ... till the 32 bit era there were THOUSANDS of non human main characters because of popularization of Mascots .... and I tryed to remember a FEMALE non human protagonist.
I got Mrs Pacman, Mrs Splosion Man and .... Kazooie
And then I got depressed thinking about the implications of that
I kinda wanted to make a topic about it to learn that i am forgetting LOTS of female non human protagonists ...
And then I got even more depressed thinking about the implications of that =|
I was playing Mrs Splosion Man on XBLA and it got me thinking ... till the 32 bit era there were THOUSANDS of non human main characters because of popularization of Mascots .... and I tryed to remember a FEMALE non human protagonist.
I got Mrs Pacman, Mrs Splosion Man and .... Kazooie
And then I got depressed thinking about the implications of that
I kinda wanted to make a topic about it to learn that i am forgetting LOTS of female non human protagonists ...
And then I got even more depressed thinking about the implications of that =|
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