Thanks! Happy Birthday to you and Dragonz! I know I'm a little late because of my banning heh
Thanks gorl!
Thank you.
I been busy. Crazy busy. I've got race riots in one thread, sexual objectification in another, and a dozen other to boot. I'm gettin' to it. These bones are old and slow.
Thanks YesNO
I don't even have the patience to touch those threads so all the kudo's to you for having it(I guess you would have to being a mod and all) but I do have to say, you've been doing a fantastic job.
Wazzy's back!!
It's Bacchus he's a comic book character. Just colored purple after the Thanos thingy.
I feel like I'm going to get banned for even approaching this subject, but I really can't bottle it up and pretend it isn't bothering me.
Well I've only ever had one TG friend in my life, and she always maintained that she knew she was a woman from being a small child*. I'm aware of the concept of gender fluidity, but I'd always assumed that someone that has transitioned had always felt as though they were the gender that they transitioned to. I figured that for most people, the old 'woman trapped in a mans body' was literal. That they felt no connection to being male beyond their external appearance and sex organs. I thought I had the situation understood, but it seems my viewpoint was simplistic and incorrect. I suppose I should've known that given the immense complexity of gender identity and expression.
You say they're dismissing your life experience, whereas I see it as questioning your life experience because they can't understand it. To put it in the simplest terms, you used the term 'female mind' in your post. I (and I think most of the posters you quoted) was under the impression that a 'female mind' would be something that you'd be in possession of since birth, not something that would gradually emerge or evolve from what one might think of as a male (or neutral?) mind. I think their posts came from confusion grounded in a desire to respect the gender expression of TG individuals. On another day, in another topic, they might've asked why someone 'changed' into a woman, only to be scalded and informed that the person hadn't 'changed' into a woman, but that they'd always been a woman with an appearance that didn't match their actual gender.
Dear lord, dude. You come into this thread because for some reason you can't let it stand that I call out users who were dismissing my experiences you just have to come in here and tell me what's really going on. And, once again, you're not listening. You're just telling me how it is. What is with this weird impulse to tell and not to listen?
Exactly.
I come into this thread because I'm genuinely interested in reading and understanding the perspectives from the members in here. I've lurked since it was created. I have no desire to foster or nurture hostility, which is why I never pluck the low-hanging fruit that is abundantly found amongst these pages.
Because you're choosing to ignore what the people I quoted were saying.
There's no questioning here. There's no doubt. There is is only telling. It doesn't matter that I experienced the male interaction of "trash talking" and that I disliked it, I can't say it's bad because I can't fully understand what it's like because I had a female mind, like there's something in trash talking that makes me unable to understand why men do it. I mean, other men in that thread were saying the same thing as me, so obviously it's not something that I can't understand. My experience didn't matter. (This is the second time I've said this).
That whole post is outlining the reason for a question that had already been put to you by Crafty in this post. As you can see, it's pretty much the same question that I had in this thread.
Let's be honest, there's never a good time to talk about this stuff.
There's also this.
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Look, I honestly don't see what I'm getting wrong here and I have no desire to wind you up so let's just call it a day. I'll take the 'L' and be the poster boy for the ignorant straight white male. I do want you to know that no malice has been meant by anything I've said.
I am actually NOT trying to intentionally distract from the current discussion though that my be ending on its own soon, but I didn't have a chance to share this from earlier today from being caught up in other things, just kind of put it on hold:
The Women Who Dress Like Men: Shoujo Staples of Anime and Manga Part 1
This piece mostly covers the anime/manga, The Rose of Versailles. I may check out this series now that I've read more about it. Maybe someone here at GirlGAF can chime in if they've seen it.
Thank you Mumei. I could see after that the discussion really wasn't going anywhere.
Dax and Leeness, I just want to once again say both your experiences and opinions were great in that thread and I hope you won't let the people who were dismissive bother you.
People kept missing the point?