Given Nintendo's success, do you think Sony might take note and focus on exclusives again?

Do you think Sony will learn from Nintendo and begin focusing on exclusives again?

  • Yes, I think they'll learn from Nintendo and focus on exclusives

    Votes: 20 24.7%

  • No, Sony is too arrogant/stupid and instead only cares about short term profits

    Votes: 61 75.3%
  • Total voters
    81
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Switch 2 is the fastest selling console in history. Do you think Sony might re-consider their strategy of porting every game?

leaving xbox out of this as it isn't immediately clear to me whether we will even have another xbox, or at least as we know it.
 
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Sony's big issue is the games they make are too expensive to be profitable as long as they limit themselves to their existing audience. Their only two options are to seek out revenues from other opportunities (which is what their multiplatform push is), or to lower the production costs of their games – which they can do, but would put them in an awkward situation with the fanbase they cultivated for three decades off the back of the promise of cutting edge cinematic games.

So I don't know what the best option forward for them is. As a gamer I appreciate that I don't have to bother with their hardware for their games anymore. As a business, they might want to look into re-engaging their exclusives strategy for their long term health again.
 
No, but mainly because they have no competition to encourage exclusives. That's how Xbox and PlayStation used to joust with each other but that time is gone.

So basically......I blame Phil Spencer
 
I collect VHS tapes said:
Switch 2 is the fastest selling console in history. Do you think Sony might re-consider their strategy of porting every game?

leaving xbox out of this as it isn't immediately clear to me whether we will even have another xbox, or at least as we know it.
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Its not a fair comparison imo because handhelds have always sold better and also theres no shortage of semiconductors like there was at time of PS5 release.
PS5 games being ported to PC doesnt dissuade me nearly as much as as the woke turn Sony has taken, the games itself become unappealing because of this. Hope they realize soon rather than later that the political landscape is not the same as 10 years ago
 
I sure hope so. I hope Astro Bot performed well enough for them to realize that the games that succeed in the long run are games that build up a beloved IP.

Successful GaaS games are a flash in the pan, and there's no guarantee of longevity. And the risk is insane to begin with.

Kacho said:
With Xbox gone there's less reason to try.
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Get out of here with your logic!!
 
I think Sony will continue to do what it's doing now. Exclusives on consoles first and then pc later. I don't know why people think they will suddenly stop putting there first party games on PC when they've said numerous times it prints money for them. Sony is not in the same position as Nintendo there hardware will always be more stronger and their games more expensive to produce then Nintendo. They own the console space now and basically have no competition their so if anything I think they could be potentially worse with their first party offerings in the future since they are automatically the go to console now for third party games.
 
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SNG32 said:
I don't know why people think they will suddenly stop putting there first party games on PC when they've said numerous times it prints money for them.
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The revenue is a decent amount but it pales to what they make from PS+ and third party GAAS. Which is what is at risk if they continue to put their games on PC.
 
No, not unless their hardware sales suddenly take a nosedive. The internet is often times not representative of real life. I'm in the minority as far as being a gaming enthusiasts in my social circle. Most of my friends are casual gamers and don't give a rat's ass about exclusives. Many of them own PS5s to play COD and Madden.

To put it in perspective, the attach rate of the average Sony exclusive is what, maybe 15% if we're being generous? That means 80%+ of PS5 owners don't even buy the exclusives on the average. So why would you think they would even care about exclusives going to PC a year or two later?
 
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They do concentrate on exclusives. You have DS2 and Ghost of Yotei. Will it release elsewhere? Probably, but did you buy a console because of them? it's no different to gens people remember fondly like PS2 and 360.

The difference is that in the PS2 and 360 gen they had their third party exclusives like GTA3, MGS2, Mass effect, Bioshock, etc and MS did timed with their first party stuff too. Yet 360 did fine. They were also exclusive for a period but now they release their own and do the same as third parties. Some people have a hard time processing this or accepting it but the truth is that when a game's sales dry up, when the pull of the game is gone and they haven't bought a console because of it, why wouldn't you port with how much easier it is today? It's like asking them to not print money. It's going to be difficult to convince them otherwise.

I think the narrative around this issue (perhaps due to guerrilla marketing) has become far more damaging despite it not differing from the PS2 or 360 gen by much so it will hurt console sales. I believe they should commit to some games remaining exclusive but again this is going to be difficult to do with shareholders wanting that easy money.
 
asdasdasdbb said:
The revenue is a decent amount but it pales to what they make from PS+ and third party GAAS. Which is what is at risk if they continue to put their games on PC.
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How is this at risk when third party gaas is still on PlayStation and Sony exclusives are still coming to console first? Almost every single PS5 exclusive game is on PC and Sony has had there most profitable generation ever. You think this suddenly stops?
 
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AmuroChan said:
No, not unless their hardware sales suddenly take a nosedive. The internet is often times not representative of real life. I'm in the minority as far as being a gaming enthusiasts in my social circle. Most of my friends are casual gamers and don't give a rat's ass about exclusives. Many of them own PS5s to play COD and Madden.

To put it in perspective, the attach rate of the average Sony exclusive is what, maybe 15% if we're being generous? That means 80%+ of PS5 owners don't even buy the exclusives on the average. So why would you think they would even care about exclusives going to PC a year or two
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If Sony first party was what sold their consoles they wouldn't have ported it in the first place. It isn't comparable to Nintendo exclusives, not even in the same league.
 
No, mostly because Sony is winning with every corner doing that. That's not the arrogant thing. Know the difference
 
No. I don't think there's enough tangible data to support it. It's a hard sell to the finance guys in meetings. "Keeping Horizon exclusive sells PS5s!" "OK how many?" "Umm well you see..."

Plus Xbox is gone and I don't think Sony and Nintendo really compete for the same market. There's really not a reason to keep things off Steam. I don't think there will be a traditional PS7 at all. It'll be a streaming box at best, but honestly by that time in the tech tree the box might not even be needed. Just a TV app. I'm sure they'll have it for people with older TVs and whatnot, but I have little doubt that is where the future of new release AAA gaming. Honestly there are some good things for gamers in there. In terms of graphics at least and potentially cost.
 
Radical_3d said:
I'm so glad OP added insults to the poll so I can vote properly…
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Do you think porting games isn't dumb?

Or do you think it's not Sony simply prioritizing short term profits?

What about it bothers you? The most diehard Sony fans on this board have been extremely critical of Sony on this

I had no idea this had a defense force. Sony is a huge corp. it doesn't need people defending its dumb practices. Unless you think this is actually a good practice long term for Sony?
 
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simpatico said:
I don't think there will be a traditional PS7 at all. It'll be a streaming box at best, but honestly by that time in the tech tree the box might not even be needed. Just a TV app. I'm sure they'll have it for people with older TVs and whatnot, but I have little doubt that is where the future of new release AAA gaming. Honestly there are some good things for gamers in there. In terms of graphics at least and potentially cost.
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this seems sorta in line with with MS is already doing
 
Nintendo 1st party is on a completely different level. Switch is about to be the best selling console of all time almost entirely because of their 1st party. You are smoking bath salts if you think Sony could do that. Sony is seeing record profits because of collecting 30% on popular GaaS and their hardware is great value. They have no reason to change anything.
 
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By people moving to PC/XBox PC to avoid paying for PS+.
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Lmao Xbox PC? So you're saying that a console that will be more expensive than a PlayStation console is going to suddenly take over. First of all an Xbox PC would never be successful like you think it would be because there's too many options in hardware to play PC games. The people who want power will always build a rig. Plus there's portable options like handhelds and laptops.
 
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BennyBlanco said:
Nintendo 1st party is on a completely different level. Switch is about to be the best selling console of all time almost entirely because of their 1st party. You are smoking bath salts if you think Sony could do that. Sony is seeing record profits because of collecting 30% on popular GaaS and their hardware is great value. They have no reason to change anything.
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I honestly didn't realize they make that much from GaaS

I guess this sorta explains the GaaS push by Sony

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Nintendo sells inferior hardware for a price premium. Their games are generally 1 to 2 gens behind but they charge current gen prices. Sony can't create masterpieces on inferior tech. Spiderman 2 was an exclusive but it only sold half what the 1st did despite a 300 million dollar budget. Sony needs to better understand who exactly is their customer. Nintendo knows who their suckers, I mean customers are. You can't play Roblox on the Nintendo Switch and Fortnite barely runs.
 
I hope they do go back to making solid exclusive games without going overboard with the budget. So their games are profitable enough that they don't have to actually release them anywhere else. Realistically speaking, that would be 5-10 games per console generation anyway.

Maybe they should take a look at Nintendos strategy a bit more closely. Nintendo did mention that they'll look into making development cycles shorter and thus saving time and money.

Most people don't need a single player game that's 100+ hours.
 
No, I don't think so. Even before Switch 2, Nintendo has been pushing huge numbers with Switch, and that didn't compel Sony to change their business strategy. Wasn't it reported previously that Sony didn't view Nintendo as their direct competitors? I think it would be different if Xbox actually gave Playstation competition, then it would be a different story. Look at the PS3/PS4 exclusives output when Xbox was a threat.
 
Danjin44 said:
My issue with current Sony is other than Team ASOBI they don't have any first party studio that makes the games I care about.
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same. there's this feeling of 'sluggishness' that began leaking into the playstation heavy-hitters during the ps4 era, & for me it's kinda killed my interest even in franchises i'd formerly liked (uncharted, horizon, spider-man). i'm not sure how else to describe it other than sluggishness - the narratives've become much less compelling, pacing has suffered, & characterization feels a lot less inspired. i mean, yeah, the woke stuff's there, & I really disliked it, but it's more than just that. there's just this kinda over-all sense of a lack of enthusiasm & passion within the games themselves... but, yeah, they're still all good-looking & solidly built, so, if that's all you need in your games to enjoy yourself, there's that...

on topic: sony does sony. nintendo does nintendo. & it seems to be working out just fine for both...
 
I would be surprised if Sony reacts to Nintendo in any meaningful way other than to maybe port Helldivers 2 to Switch 2.
 
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It doesn't have to be successful if it kills PS+.
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It's more than likely that it will probably cost more than a PlayStation console since it wouldn't be competing with it since it's a PC. There have been already been console/pc that's been released and they haven't killed shit for ps+.
 
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semiconscious said:
same. there's this feeling of 'sluggishness' that began leaking into the playstation heavy-hitters during the ps4 era, & for me it's kinda killed my interest even in franchises i'd formerly liked (uncharted, horizon, spider-man). i'm not sure how else to describe it other than sluggishness - the narratives've become much less compelling, pacing has suffered, & characterization feels a lot less inspired. i mean, yeah, the woke stuff's there, & I really disliked it, but it's more than just that. there's just this kinda over-all sense of a lack of enthusiasm & passion within the games themselves... but, yeah, they're still all good-looking & solidly built, so, if that's all you need in your games to enjoy yourself, there's that...

on topic: sony does sony. nintendo does nintendo. & it seems to be working out just fine for both...
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What I liked about PS1, PS2, PS3 and even PS4 they had good amount of both western and Japanese exclusive games but with PS5 Sony almost completely shift their focus on making games for western market.

I'm personally not fan of their western games and unlike how Nintendo has Monolith Soft, Sony dont have any studio making JRPGs for them..... With PS5 I lost interest in 99% of their first party games.
 
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No PS5 exclusive is exactly why I don't feel the need to buy the console even if its timed exclusive.

I can also understand why Sony need to release their games on other platform to recoup the cost but it was dumb of them to spend hundreds of millions on one game.

Sony need to keep their game development budget under control.
 
If your market position is compromised and/or Third parties don't support your platform, the only thing left is....Exclusives.

So, yes. If Sony keeps fucking up. They will have to double down on exclusives if they don't want to become an Xbox. (be everywhere and nowhere at the same time)
 
I think they will try to go for the next big live service game. even after concord, the taste of helldivers 2 isn't going to wash off of Sony's palate anytime soon.
 
ChorizoPicozo said:
If your market position is compromised and/or Third parties don't support your platform, the only thing left is....Exclusives.

So, yes. If Sony keeps fucking up. They will have to double down on exclusives if they don't want to become an Xbox. (be everywhere and nowhere at the same time)
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What third party's are not supporting the Sony consoles though and how have they been compromised if they've had the most successful gen? Also with the switch 2 selling high first of all a lot of those sales are FOMO and having a lot of supply at launch we still don't know how it will do in the long run.
 
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