Why do you think Nintendo is so successful?

Bruh… all my kids love Zelda, Mario, Metroid, because I've been buying those games for them their whole lives. Same with my brothers and sisters, and their kids too. Even my older cousins who grew up on Nintendo passed that down to their kids. That's literally how it works.

So what are you even talking about? How the hell did you discover Nintendo? You telling me you never touched a Nintendo game until you were an adult? If that's true, congrats – you're the first person I've ever met online or in real life that can say that with a straight face.

You make no goddamn sense

So kids saw their fathers play videogames, thus they were interested to of course play games (surprised pikachu), Nintendo is longest lasting thus multi-generational, you shared a gaming passion with your kids and it ends up they love Nintendo games, so religion?

So any multi generation console is just religion pyramid scheme.

You got it.

Because kids want to play games and they don't start with Last of Us or God of War, its a pyramid scheme. This is complete rambling. You probably see conspiracies everywhere.

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You make no goddamn sense

So kids saw their fathers play videogames, thus they were interested to of course play games (surprised pikachu), Nintendo is longest lasting thus multi-generational, you shared a gaming passion with your kids and it ends up they love Nintendo games, so religion?

So any multi generation console is just religion pyramid scheme.

You got it.

Because kids want to play games and they don't start with Last of Us or God of War, its a pyramid scheme. This is complete rambling. You probably see conspiracies everywhere.

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Ohhh, I see what happened. You heard me say "religion" and "pyramid scheme" and decided I was preaching hate instead of cracking jokes. Relax, man. It was comedy, not a manifesto. I'm not whatever boogeyman you've built up in your head.
 
They make great games - and have kept their standards high for decades.
They have great, well liked, franchises from many different genres.

Their core market is children and families. This is a constant evergreen market to cater to.
Those same kids grow up nostalgic for the games of their youth - creating a lifetime customer.

The key to it all though - is Nintendo's incredibly high quality standards that they consistently achieve.
 
First of all they offer proper consoles, not fucking PCs in disguise. The Switch is as snappy as a console should be. It is small and convenient to use. No installs, click on the game icon and play. System updates take seconds.

They know their audience and make sure to first and foremost satisfy them with the games they release.

Their vision is clear and shared among all the customers. You know they won't change their strategy fifty times in a matter of years, unlike Xbox. This builds confidence in the product you buy and the expectations you can have.

They make good games, they release them in a good state. And their schedule is good, you have interesting games every year, no drought.

They know how to maintain interest in their series. They would never rush a turd out of the door for stupid reasons, they will ensure quality is up there, and will wait several years so that people will want to play the next entry.

Basically, they know how to run a business.
 
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Honestly I think it's kind of weird that some people hate Nintendo so much they are willing to dictate the experience of other peoples' kids they don't know over the Internet as a coping mechanism.

Like, really, REALLY weird. Especially when you need to fast-forward to when they grow up, jesus. "You may not see the effects now, but just wait, in a few decades you'll see the truth of how lame Nintendo is today"
Its just an opinion, no need to get all triggered, chill
 
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Better graphics? Honestly, who gives a shit. Everyone knows they're not capable of peak graphics performance, and only losers who don't like fun care. Same for achievements. You don't play achievements.
Man, if the press told the truth, no Nintendo game could achieve good ratings because their products are technologically outdated for example no nintendo game would exceed 8.0 cause Switch 2 in handheld mode is like a 2013 console and in TV mode it's a 2016 console, but the price of their games is like GTA 6.
 
They merged their DS base with their Wii base with switch. And they dropped some impressive totem-pole titles like Totk/Botw/mario odyssey in year 1. You can argue the merging of the handheld market with their console market is the main catalyst. But they dropped bangers during the Wii U era, and re released them on a system that was more accessible and a natural upgrade from the DS era.
 
I actually see no need for more powerful hardware as of Switch 1 because TOTK, S2 simply enhances the game, they probably don't see the reason why should they aim for more powerful hardware

This is akin to Twilight Princess HD edition dropping on Wii U and wondering why they bothered with a new system because it doesn't look that much different. Well, they bothered so that they can make a new game.
 
They merged their DS base with their Wii base with switch. And they dropped some impressive totem-pole titles like Totk/Botw/mario odyssey in year 1. You can argue the merging of the handheld market with their console market is the main catalyst. But they dropped bangers during the Wii U era, and re released them on a system that was more accessible and a natural upgrade from the DS era.
They didn't merge anything, they were just pushed out of the home console market due to the failure of the Wii U.
 
Now Sony's looking to duplicate Nintendo's success. The Sony ponies are upset because Sony gave Nintendo too big of a head start to make a dent in their entrenched hybrid fortress.
I don't think so, Sony just wants to protect itself from handheld PCs not compete with Nintendo.
ps6 handheld is just a niche console, just like the Steam Deck, without subsidy therefore without real need to sell a lot.
 
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I don't think so, Sony just wants to protect itself from handheld PCs not compete with Nintendo. ps6 handheld is just a niche console, just like the Steam Deck, without subsidy therefore without real need to sell a lot.

Aren't these statements kind of contradictory? If they're just niche handheld PCs that don't sell a lot, why do they need protection from them? And how is making a niche console without need to sell a lot going to "protect" them from anything?
 
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I agree with you on the first part, but lets be honest here, kids nowadays really dont give a fuck about Nintendo or its franchices, once they are big enough to play Roblox, Fortnite, Minecraft or any other Gaas game out there they ll abandon singles player games and jump into online without ever looking back.

I have a 12yo nephew, he has a Switch one and he play only Minecraft all day, i never saw he playing a Nintendo exclusive game for more than 20 minutes.

I really think that once our generation start to get older and die, Nintendo may have some difficults.
If kids were the ones choosing, there's only a few games from Nintendo that i see them being very interested (3d marios, bananza, pokemon, animal crossing comes to mind). The thing is, their millennial parents brainwash them while they're young to be into Nintendos stuff because they're constantly seeing their dad play this shiet.
 
First of all they offer proper consoles, not fucking PCs in disguise. The Switch is as snappy as a console should be. It is small and convenient to use. No installs, click on the game icon and play. System updates take seconds.

They know their audience and make sure to first and foremost satisfy them with the games they release.

Their vision is clear and shared among all the customers. You know they won't change their strategy fifty times in a matter of years, unlike Xbox. This builds confidence in the product you buy and the expectations you can have.

They make good games, they release them in a good state. And their schedule is good, you have interesting games every year, no drought.

They know how to maintain interest in their series. They would never rush a turd out of the door for stupid reasons, they will ensure quality is up there, and will wait several years so that people will want to play the next entry.

Basically, they know how to run a business.

They would NEVAR get away with all this smarty pants business management, if only the press were honest
 
Personally how I see it is that they are very respectable to it's employees. All this leads to those awesome experiences like Tears of the Kingdom (I'm playing it now on S2) etc. The Holy Trinity then gives them more power because the joy they are bringing in this the fucking Last Times
They carefully are creating these games, and thinks about what works the best.
What do you think?
Nintendo is the most hit and miss of the big 3.

For every Wii, Switch or DS, they have a GameCube, Wii U or Virtual Boy.

Before the Switch was released, the question was "how long before Nintendo has to go third-party". It was the question prior to the Wii as well. During the Wii and Switch years everyone seemed to forget this and felt like Nintendo has been dominating the industry since the NES.
 
I love Nintendo but I honestly don't think they're as good as they think they are.
I really enjoyed BOTW and TOTK but the recent Bananza has made me realise their games play like gacha games with the collectible obsession.
Their emulators are poor and tied to subscription models and I personally find their game quality all over the place.
Personally I find PlayStation far ahead of anything Nintendo does.
 
Man, if the press told the truth, no Nintendo game could achieve good ratings because their products are technologically outdated for example no nintendo game would exceed 8.0 cause Switch 2 in handheld mode is like a 2013 console and in TV mode it's a 2016 console, but the price of their games is like GTA 6.
The graphics arguments are so, so dumb. Like Hades 2 and Silksong about to be two of the best games of the year, if not all time. Do you think they should be limited in score because they won't require a 5090 to run?

Just moronic. I have no idea how some people on here function day to day.
 
New IPs. Not new gimmicky concepts around already existing IPs, these are irrelevant imo, but ACTUAL new Ips. Apart from Splatoon, what have they created for the last 20 years?

New IPs are fine, they could do more.

Reality is the industry is full on "new" IPs that are just reskinned versions of things we know. Ubisoft has like 20 IPs that all amount to the same game being made.

I guess it's cool if it can trick your brain into thinking it's new. But Nintendo has done more new gameplay ideas with existing IPs than most companies will do with "new" ones.
 
The graphics arguments are so, so dumb. Like Hades 2 and Silksong about to be two of the best games of the year, if not all time. Do you think they should be limited in score because they won't require a 5090 to run?

Just moronic. I have no idea how some people on here function day to day.

Graphics hit diminishing returns years ago.

It's great as a crutch for companies that can't make good games but there's only a handful of great games that are really enhanced by their fidelity.
 
But the games are still really good and very fucking replayable

It wouldn't be a trap if the games weren't good. Think of it like fishing, bad bait doesn't catch anything. When people use words like 'trap,' and even when I talk about it in terms of 'religion' or 'indoctrination,' I'm not saying the games themselves are bad. Nor am I automagically contributing malice to those that call it a 'trap'. The games have to be good for those descriptors to fit.

The question posed is, why do you think Nintendo is so successful? Those kinds of descriptors, whether used in malice or, in my case, more tongue-in-cheek, make sense IMHO when you look at customer retention. It's not even unique to Nintendo. It's a universal feature of most industries. For example a household where the parents had elevated F50's are highly likely going to produce children driving around with elevated F150's or just pickup trucks in general. This kind of brand loyalty happens naturally, and I'm sure Nintendo is fully aware of it. But the trucks themselves still have to be solid, if they were constantly breaking down or disappointing, parents would move on to something else and kids would grow up with a different experience entirely.

What I see here is that some people have let their love for Nintendo morph into resentment for how Nintendo manages their ecosystem, how they gatekeep, how they leverage nostalgia, and how they're unapologetic about their business model. That doesn't mean the product isn't great; it just means the way they keep you hooked can feel manipulative, even if you're willingly eating the bait like I happily do every single god damn time hook line and sinker. :messenger_beaming:

Some of y'all just seem mad that I'm not scared of you enough to keep my opinion to myself.
 
New IPs. Not new gimmicky concepts around already existing IPs, these are irrelevant imo, but ACTUAL new Ips. Apart from Splatoon, what have they created for the last 20 years?
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But seriously look at what they just did for Donkey Kong. Obviously DK is almost as old as videogames but this is a totally new game, different design, after a movie that made a billion dollars, and is evidently extremely good (I haven't played it yet). Is this worse than if they made the same game with some new random Scrimblo?
 
It wouldn't be a trap if the games weren't good. Think of it like fishing, bad bait doesn't catch anything. When people use words like 'trap,' and even when I talk about it in terms of 'religion' or 'indoctrination,' I'm not saying the games themselves are bad. Nor am I automagically contributing malice to those that call it a 'trap'. The games have to be good for those descriptors to fit.

The question posed is, why do you think Nintendo is so successful? Those kinds of descriptors, whether used in malice or, in my case, more tongue-in-cheek, make sense IMHO when you look at customer retention. It's not even unique to Nintendo. It's a universal feature of most industries. For example a household where the parents had elevated F50's are highly likely going to produce children driving around with elevated F150's or just pickup trucks in general. This kind of brand loyalty happens naturally, and I'm sure Nintendo is fully aware of it. But the trucks themselves still have to be solid, if they were constantly breaking down or disappointing, parents would move on to something else and kids would grow up with a different experience entirely.

What I see here is that some people have let their love for Nintendo morph into resentment for how Nintendo manages their ecosystem, how they gatekeep, how they leverage nostalgia, and how they're unapologetic about their business model. That doesn't mean the product isn't great; it just means the way they keep you hooked can feel manipulative, even if you're willingly eating the bait like I happily do every single god damn time hook line and sinker. :messenger_beaming:

Some of y'all just seem mad that I'm not scared of you enough to keep my opinion to myself.
Pyramid scheme ≠ brand loyalty
 
They didn't merge anything, they were just pushed out of the home console market due to the failure of the Wii U.
The Wii's success a generation before is a spanner in the works of that narrative. Nintendo messed up with the Wii U, but it's clear that Nintendo were going in a direction that wasn't the console arms race. If anything the Wii U being a bit more "normal console" cemented the idea that Nintendo had no need to chase that, but it's not like it pushed them out. There was an evolution from Wii U to Switch to the point that Wii U was more like a prototype Switch before the technology was there to fully realise the idea.
 
They make quality products. Even when the WiiU was crashing they brought out banger after banger.

When I buy a new 3D Mario I always know I'm getting a big, fun, polished title - that's not filled to the brim with predatory MTX and the likes. I don't even have to watch reviews.

I also think that's why a lot of their titles have turned into "evergreens" and they can keep their prices up. People see Zelda/Mario/etc. and know that they'll get something great, wether it released yesterday, or 4 years ago.
They make good fun games, but they pull a lot of bs too.
You can't say they make quality products when the S2 screen is worse than the S1 and when they charged an astronomic amount for pieces of cardboard, among other things.
 
- Low price of entry
- Nintendo is known to be the best at handheld gaming when it comes to console market, so Switch fits right in
- Family friendly games which are consistent in quality and you know you'll get Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart etc... on it
- Their first party games always have meaty SP content. It can have MP too, but most of their games have a lot of SP content. MP on Nintendo systems is an afterthought just like their online systems. If MP play was so big, you'd get a better online system and tons of MP heavy hitters from third parties trying to cash in. COD hasnt been on a Nintendo system since Wii U I think, and they get gimped lots of EA Sports over the decades
 
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