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Glee Season 2 |OT| How Sue "C's" it (and many blindly hate it)

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BowieZ

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So I'm now caught up on this show.

Fucking hell. Season 1.5 was harmful to my psyche.

I remember watching The O.C. and thinking it weird that Seth and Summer formed a couple after ... just... one season. That was the main source of tension for me, and that character arc along with the others were all resolved so quickly that I was... well, disappointed.

I don't want all the loads to be blown in the first year of a show.

The same thing has happened with Glee.

Basically all the character tensions from the Pilot have been more or less resolved by now, sometimes more than once (??), and it feels unnatural or the characters are robotic or superhuman in their development arcs or something.

So I have no feeling of tension any more. Any problem that arises I know will be eliminated an episode later -- or even within the goddamn episode -- it's basically just like the X-Files, except the extra-terrestrial creepiness is concentrated into the alien form of Mr Shue.

I don't know what school was like for you guys, but nobody was anything like the schizophrenia of these Glee kids. Kids stayed remarkably consistent from 1st Grade to graduation. People sometimes open up gradually. Occasionally a nerd becomes popular or a cool kid becomes bullied for some reason. People become emo. People have sex and regret it, etc. etc etc.

Yeah I know this show isn't Friday Night Lights, but if they're so persistent about including powerful messages about equality and self empowerment, they're doing themselves a disservice because the characters who portray these messages are incredibly shallow and unsympathetic.
 
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The robot LEGS. Fucking Glee. :lol

So Bieste is rich and can afford robot legs but wants to be a Highschool Coach, okay...
 
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kiryogi

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Just finally caught up myself and got myself into the Glee craze too. I was blindly hating it on it before and never gave it a chance. XD That said I really love it now. Bums me out that there won't be anymore new episodes until Feb. !@#!@#@!$#@$ :lol

Anyway just as I said, I really do love the show as a whole. But I do agree with how season 1.5 was pretty weak. Think the songs and random Sue madness kept me attached. Although, again I agree that there was definitely way too many ballads. Echoing earlier comments, they do a ton better with pop numbers or showtunes.

That said, I really appreciate how much variety they have with the music. It's not just modern stuff, but I really like how they do modern takes on older stuff too.

Another bit, think their best performance/song yet IMO was "Singing in the Rain/Umbrella". I can't stop watching/listening to it. But the recent stuff in S2 was pretty good too. "Marry Me" in episode 8, "Valerie" in episode 9. Also really liked they gave a little spotlight on Santana/Brittany/Quinn/Sam in that run. Now I can't wait to see more Sunshine/Charice performances. I suppose that'll be the perk of waiting until February? D: Fuck it;s gonna be a long wait.
 
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maharg said:
Prediction: Kerofsky is in the Glee club by the end of the season.
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What have you done!?

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Ceres

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Spoiler behind the scene photos for the superbowl episode are online. Already cringing at the potential "plot" for this episode.
 
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ilikeme

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no more episodes until februari? is this trueeeeeeeeee

but i want kurt to kiss a booooooy

like right now

blaine plz

(and karofskiii can too <3)

and yeah he's too cute not to be in glee. he's a total outcast too :3
 
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Father_Brain

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Ceres said:
Spoiler behind the scene photos for the superbowl episode are online. Already cringing at the potential "plot" for this episode.
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Those photos are far from the worst of what's been rumored about this episode (I won't post it here, but let's just say that it would not please those who want to see more consistent characterization from this show). The part of the plot you're referring to could actually be amusing.

Musically, I'm disappointed that they're doing
Heads Will Roll
as a
mashup with Thriller
rather than on its own, but I can see how it could work, sorta.
 
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Vamphuntr

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Father_Brain said:
Those photos are far from the worst of what's been rumored about this episode (I won't post it here, but let's just say that it would not please those who want to see more consistent characterization from this show). The part of the plot you're referring to could actually be amusing.

Musically, I'm disappointed that they're doing
Heads Will Roll
as a
mashup with Thriller
rather than on its own, but I can see how it could work, sorta.
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I saw the photos too.
It's obvious they are letting the girls on the football team as a way to teach the students about the whole gender issues and also to contrast with the magic school conformity. It's obvious it's the first step for Kurt to be back.
 
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Sai-kun

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Father_Brain said:
Those photos are far from the worst of what's been rumored about this episode (I won't post it here, but let's just say that it would not please those who want to see more consistent characterization from this show). The part of the plot you're referring to could actually be amusing.

Musically, I'm disappointed that they're doing
Heads Will Roll
as a
mashup with Thriller
rather than on its own, but I can see how it could work, sorta.
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First spoiler sounds awesome. But the second part...not so much. I mean I like that song, but just not
mashups. :| just do heads will roll!
 
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Poyunch

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It's not really that big a deal but I was switching through channels and I was surprised to see Mr. Schuester pop out of nowhere when I saw Dan in Real Life was on.
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Cosmic Bus

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Let's be honest: aversion to Bieber's music on Glee is because of the performer, not the songs; if they were done on the show without any indication as to who the originator was, no one would bat an eye since they're no different than half the other pop songs everyone seems to find so enjoyable.
 
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Koodo

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BertramCooper said:
Because Glee is waaaay too good to do Justin Bieber, right? :lol

Sounds like a perfect fit to me.
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Glee tends to worsen the music they borrow. The Bieber's prepubescent material is already pretty grating, but now imagine a wailing Rachel or, God forbid, Finn repeatedly screaming Baby at the screen.

Indeed, only the deaf can withstand this kind of damage.
 
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Vamphuntr

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Koodo said:
Glee tends to worsen the music they borrow. The Bieber's prepubescent material is already pretty grating, but now imagine a wailing Rachel or, God forbid, Finn repeatedly screaming Baby at the screen.

Indeed, only the deaf can withstand this kind of damage.
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:lol :lol

Simply turn off the autotune on Finn...

I guess Blaine is going to sing some Biebers song, he sings something in every episode now. He's the new Rachel.
 
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SaintZ

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About the Bieber News: Gross.

EW is saying that Gwyneth is back not for just one but two episodes and they are going to feature "Born This Way" in a Karofsky centered plot in March or April. Oh and Kristin Chenoweth is returning as well for a multi episode arc later in the season.

Sauce.
 
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Granger Danger

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Koodo said:
Glee tends to worsen the music they borrow. The Bieber's prepubescent material is already pretty grating, but now imagine a wailing Rachel or, God forbid, Finn repeatedly screaming Baby at the screen.

Indeed, only the deaf can withstand this kind of damage.
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I want Brittany and Santana to sing their version of Eenie Meenie.

Mr Schu or Artie can do the rapping parts.
 
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BertramCooper

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“Glee is NOT doing a Justin Bieber tribute episode. We are not doing any more of those this season. Those are reserved for artists with a big catalogue, ala Madonna and Britney, etc.”
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And Lady Gaga, who has put out a total of two albums.

If Murphy had any dignity, he'd never do any tribute episodes ever again. They're fucking awful.
 
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Koodo

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BertramCooper said:
And Lady Gaga, who has put out a total of two albums.

If Murphy had any dignity, he'd never do any tribute episodes ever again. They're fucking awful.
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I actually like the tribute episodes. Sure, they're worthless for the story, but it's a silly fun hour.

Granted, I guess you have to like the artists to make it stomachable.
 
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krypt0nian

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Koodo said:
I actually like the tribute episodes. Sure, they're worthless for the story, but it's a silly fun hour.

Granted, I guess you have to like the artists to make it stomachable.
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I've loved every tribute ep so far. Total fun.
 
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Vamphuntr

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SaintZ said:
About the Bieber News: Gross.

EW is saying that Gwyneth is back not for just one but two episodes and they are going to feature "Born This Way" in a Karofsky centered plot in March or April. Oh and Kristin Chenoweth is returning as well for a multi episode arc later in the season.

Sauce.
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So they will make Karosfky nice and happy like that, all of sudden? Guess that death threat wasn't real. Bring on more guest stars on Glee so you will be sure that you don't have to write something for the ND kids.
 
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Vamphuntr

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maharg said:
Yeah, 180 degree changes in characters' personalities never happens on Glee. Never ever.
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I agree but no one had thrown death threats before and made a character switch school because of his actions.

Koodoo said:
Has this been posted before? Pictures of one of the upcoming "major" songs
Michael Jackson's Thriller
.

Lawd hammercy on us all.
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I'm more worried about what the song will sound like than the "show" they will put on to go with it.
 
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SaintZ

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Ceres said:
Funny or Die clip featuring a bunch of the Glee cast along with Sofia Vergara from Modern Family.

Nothing but a Glee Thing
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I can't stand Sofia Vergara but aside from that I liked it :D Not gonna lie, the part in the song about sending the girl's finger to MM made me laugh :lol Oh and Heather Morris' ass is kind of big.
 
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06nbarnhill

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I prefer the competitive episodes where there is some purpose behind the performances.

NOTHING bothers me more than the non glee club instances where they burst into song while doing non glee related things....

I don't mid the GOOD tribute episodes.
 
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krypt0nian

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06nbarnhill said:
I prefer the competitive episodes where there is some purpose behind the performances.

NOTHING bothers me more than the non glee club instances where they burst into song while doing non glee related things....

I don't mid the GOOD tribute episodes.
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It's musical tradition. It shouldn't bother you are it's a staple of the genre.
 
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krypt0nian

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06nbarnhill said:
Doesn't make it a good staple :p
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That's like saying that the High Noon standoff is bad in Westerns. You take it as part of the whole.

This isn't a realistic show depicting a High School Glee choir's struggles in the competition arena. It's a over the top musical show where literally anything can happen. :D
 
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06nbarnhill

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krypt0nian said:
That's like saying that the High Noon standoff is bad in Westerns. You take it as part of the whole.

This isn't a realistic show depicting a High School Glee choir's struggles in the competition arena. It's a over the top musical show where literally anything can happen. :D
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lol rhetoric and arbitrarily deciding what can or can't be changed. If it was that important it would happen every episode (it doesn't). I am refering to instances like when Finn and Puck are working at Sheets and Things and burst into song simply because they turned on the radio....

...and I never said I disliked it enough to not like the show.
 
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krypt0nian

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06nbarnhill said:
lol rhetoric and arbitrarily deciding what can or can't be changed. If it was that important it would happen every episode (it doesn't). I am refering to instances like when Finn and Puck are working at Sheets and Things and burst into song simply because they turned on the radio....

...and I never said I disliked it enough to not like the show.
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Well, of course they can change anything but like I said due to the fact that it's part of the show's hyperreality and a staple they won't. It's not really rhetoric at all. Just noting what the situation is.

:D
 
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maharg

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krypt0nian said:
It's musical tradition. It shouldn't bother you are it's a staple of the genre.
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Glee didn't really become a musical until about a quarter to half way through the first season. Before that it *was* a show about kids in a glee club. So stop being shocked when people don't entirely expect it out of the show.
 
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krypt0nian

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maharg said:
Glee didn't really become a musical until about a quarter to half way through the first season. Before that it *was* a show about kids in a glee club. So stop being shocked when people don't entirely expect it out of the show.
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But as I've said repeatedly. it's not that show and never will be again. Why would I reply to him as if what I said wasn't currently true? o_O

Again, Glee is what it is. As long as the ratings hold (and increase), those nostalgic days of yore aren't magically returning.

Not sure where the "shocked" comment fits in but it's neither here nor there.
 
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