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[Lokaum D+]

The same HYPE that was going on when Elden Ring released. Disgusting

I disagree, the hype of elden ring did make reviewers goes blind and reward a game with huge performance issues high score everywhere, where any other game would have been slammed to the ground and was a crossgen game ( like gow ) but not criticized for that as gow is being

 

[SafeOrAlone]

tacitus_killgore has a hard time with criticism lol.

 

[geary]

I disagree, the hype of elden ring did make reviewers goes blind and reward a game with huge performance issues high score everywhere, where any other game would have been slammed to the ground and was a crossgen game ( like gow ) but not criticized for that as gow is being

And now they go blind on an expansion level of a game. This is what Blood and Wine was for W3, but sold as a separate game.

 

[Auto_aim1]

98 for me, I just started it.

I think it is 84 for PS5 and 100 something for PS4. Is this the deluxe edition?

 

[Gudji]

And now they go blind on an expansion level of a game. This is what Blood and Wine was for W3, but sold as a separate game.

Jesus christ shut the fuck up you troll.

 

[Assaulty]

Hope the side quest are really as good as they say. I saw some reviews praise it a lots.

This makes me hyped to play the game once it hits PC. I think GOW 2018 is a great game, but the side content is Ubisoft levels of filler. If the side content is actually near Witcher 3 levels of quality, I am baffled as to why this game isn't scoring even higher than it already is.

 

[GymWolf]

Considering the fact that it has 0 mixed reviews as of right now I don't see that happening, anything negative it gets like a stevivor 6, will be outweighed by another 9 or 10 from somewhere like Edge

Doesn't edge usually hate triple A games with good production values and especially kinda iterative sequels like this one?

I would not hope for more than a 7-8 from those elitist hacks.

 

[Cyborg]

It's impressive to see 117 critics gave a review score for this game and it's still at a 9.4! Elden Ring was reviewed by ''only'' 84.

I can't wait to play it!

 

[GymWolf]

It also allows for trolls who didn't know, to run wild. Straight clowns, man.

Example:

Bagtallia aka dicktator responded by saying "do you want 20 min of black screen instead".

Dude doesn't know half measures, it's spoiler or black screen.

 

[GymWolf]

Sony not releasing this thing today to let us play all weekend is a bitch move.

 

[GymWolf]

Holy shit hahahaha

The Harvey weinstein of pets.

I see no one being in a doggy position to get a role in beethoven 3.

 

[OZ9000]

Bagtallia aka dicktator responded by saying "do you want 20 min of black screen instead".

Dude doesn't know half measures, it's spoiler or black screen.

Lmfao

That guy is such a cunt.

 

[jm89]

And now they go blind on an expansion level of a game. This is what Blood and Wine was for W3, but sold as a separate game.

 

[Ultra Donny]

Xbox is a great console with a great subscription model that makes it even more desirable. But Phil Spencer needs to pull his head out of his ass and prove that Xbox can stand on their own providing games worthy of the console. After many years of waiting, there is still a lack of really good 1st party games. I can't believe that even with the acquisitions, there has not been a lot of must play game announcements. I have a Series X & PS5. I love the Series X but I love Sony Exclusives more!

Couldn't agree more. I really like my Series X and all my friends play on xbox so when it comes to multiplayer I have no complain. But now it starts to feel a little strange that all those acquisition have not manifested into a great lineup after all these years. Guess we have to wait until 2023.
Sorry for going of topic, GOW Rangnarök looks fantastic, enjoy it Nov 9.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Bagtallia aka dicktator responded by saying "do you want 20 min of black screen instead".

Dude doesn't know half measures, it's spoiler or black screen.

It's retarded.

 

[saintjules]

Hope the side quest are really as good as they say. I saw some reviews praise it a lots.

Side quests have to feel like their own adventure and aren't just simply fetch quests, but something more. Games like GOT and AC dump clones upon clones of quests, it got annoying, especially GOTs.

If I had to crouch one more f'ing time to follow footprints, I swear.

 

[Topher]

And now they go blind on an expansion level of a game. This is what Blood and Wine was for W3, but sold as a separate game.

You warriors really need some new material.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You warriors really need some new material.

They need games.

 

[Topher]

They need games.

Ah, I see.

 

[Hot5pur]

Glad they addressed the problems from the first game. The fighting system looks to be a copy/paste but I guess that's what you do when catering to the common denominator. Will grab it on PC in a year, or whenever they happen to release it.

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

Glad they addressed the problems from the first game. The fighting system looks to be a copy/paste but I guess that's what you do when catering to the common denominator. Will grab it on PC in a year, or whenever they happen to release it.

A copy/paste of what, it's own fighting system? And how is this one catering to the common denominator, but the prequel was not?

 

[El Pistolero]

A copy/paste of what, it's own fighting system? And how is this one catering to the common denominator, but the prequel was not?

Just go with the flow...Don't question the insanity!

 

[DeepEnigma]

Glad they addressed the problems from the first game. The fighting system looks to be a copy/paste but I guess that's what you do when catering to the common denominator. Will grab it on PC in a year, or whenever they happen to release it.

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

Just go with the flow...Don't question the insanity!

I know, it's just the buzzwords don't even make sense.

 

[stn]

Just caved and bought GOW and pre-ordered Ragnarok.

 

[Humdinger]

Skill Up recommended we study Ragnarok or Norse mythology prior to playing the game. He said that such knowledge is necessary in order to fully enjoy and appreciate the game. He recommended Neil Gaiman's book, but I'm not going to read a book just to prep for a videogame.

Any suggestions? Youtubes that you think cover the territory pretty well?

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

Skill Up recommended we study Ragnarok or Norse mythology prior to playing the game. He said that such knowledge is necessary in order to fully enjoy and appreciate the game. He recommended Neil Gaiman's book, but I'm not going to read a book just to prep for a videogame.

Any suggestions? Youtubes that you think cover the territory pretty well?

He was just saying you should read up if you want a deeper understanding and to recognize subtle eastern eggs.

 

[Humdinger]

He was just saying you should read up if you want a deeper understanding and to recognize subtle eastern eggs.

I heard it differently. To me, he seemed to be nearly pleading with people to get up to speed on this stuff, in order to appreciate the game. I believe he said it was *not* just so they could recognize easter eggs. Rather, it was for a grasp of the story and characters and to appreciate what Sony Santa Monica was doing.

I can just search Youtube for Ragnarok or Norse Mythology, but I figured someone here might have a particular video recommendation.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Skill Up recommended we study Ragnarok or Norse mythology prior to playing the game. He said that such knowledge is necessary in order to fully enjoy and appreciate the game. He recommended Neil Gaiman's book, but I'm not going to read a book just to prep for a videogame.

Any suggestions? Youtubes that you think cover the territory pretty well?

Mimir does a good job explaining things in the game, at least he did in the first. But a good companion does assist in understanding the subtle Easter eggs and divine comedy.

 

[SLB1904]

Tough

 

[SlimySnake]

I disagree, the hype of elden ring did make reviewers goes blind and reward a game with huge performance issues high score everywhere, where any other game would have been slammed to the ground and was a crossgen game ( like gow ) but not criticized for that as gow is being

This happens with every major franchise now. BOTW and Mario Odyssey both got like 98 metacritic which is insane considering just how mediocre odyssey was. RDR2 is my GOTG, but 98 for that game? Really? The game has so many issues. How is it that nearly everyone thinks its a ten?

Same thing with TLOU2. My GOTY but I can completely understand all the criticisms people have about the pacing, the unlikeable characters and the story overall. The game was reviewed and scored as if it had universal acclaim when its actually a far more divisive game than Death Stranding which landed around 82 on metacritic.

Then there is the fact that the industry has no ethics standards. I cant quit my job and go work at a client of my company for a good 1 year, but these guys can literally go from handing out tens to being on that company's payroll immediately. Why would we expect DF to be critical of these big games when they are likely angling to get a job in those studios? The way DF calls these switch ports running at 480p and lower miracle ports is absolutely freaking bizarre. Neither NX Gamer or DF noticed the massive issues in the performance mode of HFW which led to GG downplaying them until internet outrage became too hard to ignore. This is their one job and they failed at it all because they didnt want to be too critical of their favorite developer.

tacitus_killgore has a hard time with criticism lol.

Some guy in the tech thread was calling people xbots for agreeing with DF that GOW looks like a PS4 game. Some people basically define their internet identity around a console's success and take any criticism for it personally. We're all making fun of colteastwood in this thread, but I see the same behavior time and time again in every thread. People completely oblivious about how easy it is to dismiss them as blind fanboys.

I am approaching 50k likes, just a 100 shy as of this morning, and I couldnt have done it without thousands and thousands of LOL reactions from riky, Eziekel and several other fanboys who simply cant handle criticism of a soulless corporation.

Well, he wont be getting a job at any Sony studio anytime soon.

This is really iky stuff.

 

[The Stig]

Why can't people love Elden Ring and God Of War?

Weird....

seriously. what is it with people?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Tough

 

[Humdinger]

Mimir does a good job explaining things in the game, at least he did in the first. But a good companion does assist in understanding the subtle Easter eggs and divine comedy.

Thank you, sir.

I'm also asking because I think this was one reason I didn't like the 2018 game as much as others did. I didn't understand who any of the characters were. Freya, Loki, Thor, etc. There were these Big Reveal moments, and I was sitting there thinking, "So? Who's that?" I think I need to brush up on my Norse mythology, lol.

 

[nowhat]

I can just search Youtube for Ragnarok or Norse Mythology, but I figured someone here might have a particular video recommendation.

I don't know if this really helps, as it is a playlist explaining stuff related to the 2018 game, but I find the channel a nice watch (in general, not just related to GoW):



(and obviously spoilers for the 2018 game)

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

Just caved and bought GOW and pre-ordered Ragnarok.

That was me yesterday.....i was going to wait, but the damn reviews got me.

Welcome to the Family

 

[Windle Poons]

Doesn't edge usually hate triple A games with good production values and especially kinda iterative sequels like this one?

I would not hope for more than a 7-8 from those elitist hacks.

They've given Bayonetta 3 a 9 this month so fully expecting that 7 to come along from edgy EDGE.

 

[Topher]

That games has a 93 on Metacritic, a 10/10 score isn't exactly suspicious.

Editor switching company in the same industry, put on the tinfoil hats...

The flat earthers of video games. Conspiracies everywhere....

 

[DeepEnigma]

The flat earthers of video games. Conspiracies everywhere....

This happens so much in the industry, but NOW people find it odd.

This has always been a thing in the dawn of the internet. Streamers going to work for Bungie, writers going to work for Nintendo and the like. Influencers working for MS as we speak. Get a grip, children.

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

This happens so much in the industry, but NOW people find it odd.

This has always been a thing in the dawn of the internet. Streamers going to work for Bungie, writers going to work for Nintendo and the like. Influencers working for MS as we speak. Get a grip, children.

I mean isn't that how industry works? It's all so incestuous.

 

[Fake]

Well, he wont be getting a job at any Sony studio anytime soon.

What a simp.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I mean isn't that how industry works? It's all so incestuous.

Yes, networking and nepotism has always been a part of the these industries, but not always guaranteed either.

 

[tommib]

I mean isn't that how industry works? It's all so incestuous.

Isn't this normal in all creative industries? Off the top of my head I'm reminded of Paul Schrader who worked as a film critic for years until writing the script for Taxi Driver.

 

[Hot5pur]

A copy/paste of what, it's own fighting system? And how is this one catering to the common denominator, but the prequel was not?

Yes exactly. There has been no innovation in the fighting system as far as most reviewers were concerned. And the original game scrapped a lot of the combat complexity to make it more accessible to your average gamer. This was a consequence of wanting to be more cinematic, so the aerial combat was scrapped compared to prior games. In effect GoW became a more generic 3rd person action game in the gameplay department, but gained in being more cinematic and up close. Many people considered GoW in the realm of ninja Gaiden, dmc, etc, but now it's more like Assassin's Creed level of combat (or perhaps slightly better) and for some people the appeal of the gameplay is gone but the story and set pieces are still nice.

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

Isn't this normal in all creative industries? Off the top of my head I'm reminded of Paul Schrader who worked as a film critic for years until writing the script for Taxi Driver.

Hell Phil Harrison is the perfect example of failing upward.

 

[OZ9000]

Side quests have to feel like their own adventure and aren't just simply fetch quests, but something more. Games like GOT and AC dump clones upon clones of quests, it got annoying, especially GOTs.

If I had to crouch one more f'ing time to follow footprints, I swear.

A game is much better if it ONLY has 5-10 good side missions as opposed to 50 pieces of shit to wade through IMO.

Quality > quantity, always.

No idea how many side quests Ragnarok has but the first God of War game had a good blend between main quests, side quests eg Dwarven favours, dragons, and then minor quests which don't take too much time to complete.

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

Yes exactly. There has been no innovation in the fighting system as far as most reviewers were concerned. And the original game scrapped a lot of the combat complexity to make it more accessible to your average gamer. This was a consequence of wanting to be more cinematic, so the aerial combat was scrapped compared to prior games. In effect GoW became a more generic 3rd person action game in the gameplay department, but gained in being more cinematic and up close. Many people considered GoW in the realm of ninja Gaiden, dmc, etc, but now it's more like Assassin's Creed level of combat (or perhaps slightly better) and for some people the appeal of the gameplay is gone but the story and set pieces are still nice.

The original GOW trilogy was accessible as hell for the average gamer and it was never as deep as the titles you mentioned.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yes exactly. There has been no innovation in the fighting system as far as most reviewers were concerned. And the original game scrapped a lot of the combat complexity to make it more accessible to your average gamer. This was a consequence of wanting to be more cinematic, so the aerial combat was scrapped compared to prior games. In effect GoW became a more generic 3rd person action game in the gameplay department, but gained in being more cinematic and up close. Many people considered GoW in the realm of ninja Gaiden, dmc, etc, but now it's more like Assassin's Creed level of combat (or perhaps slightly better) and for some people the appeal of the gameplay is gone but the story and set pieces are still nice.

You don't fix what isn't broken, you refine it and add new move sets/weapons.

Just like Bayonetta or DMC, just like Miyazaki with Souls, and just like Team Ninja with their games.

"Innovate" is the most redundant and fake term thrown around by warriors who have no idea what it means, nor can explain how they will go about it.

They refined already great gameplay by adding verticality as well as making the Blades of Chaos more like the original in speed. We don't know everything without going into spoiler territory either.

 

[Topher]

Isn't this normal in all creative industries? Off the top of my head I'm reminded of Paul Schrader who worked as a film critic for years until writing the script for Taxi Driver.

Jeremy Dunham, who also worked as an editor at IGN, has been at Psyonix for years now making Rocket League. Isn't hard to figure out that people working in the game industry would love the chance to actually work for studios that are actually making games.

 

[Hot5pur]

The original GOW trilogy was accessible as hell for the average gamer and it was never as deep as the titles you mentioned.

It was definitely more accessible than DMC, Bayo, or Gaiden, but with GoW2018 instead of making it more complex they just dumbed it down. For some people that was a step in the wrong direction that made is less enjoyable. The lack of aerial combat and combos is fairly evident I'm not sure there is much to debate. The ground combat maybe the same, though I'd say a bit worse due to the limited weapon variety and having the camera so close which reduces spatial awareness.