Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
on a related note, another thing this movie does well is that we see casualties
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Godzilla |OT| Legendary
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I feel that was also side but big point of the original...showing death/destruction of massive things. They showed a lot but it felt a bit too light-hearted. Maybe that is a good thing.
jacksepticeye
Member
This movie may have some of the best monster audio I have ever heard. The bass and nuances in the sound stage were impeccable. The scene where
Really sold the size of the creatures
they're hiding from MAMA MUTO on the bridge and you hear her click and grumble shook the entire cinema and it was awesome.
Anton Sugar
Member
Yeah, totally. Somewhat related: I loved the scenes where noise/music was at a bare minimum. I know I'm repeating myself but:
The pilot parachuting gracefully into the city, only for his jet to smash into the skyscraper a moment later.
The POV airdrop, unable to hear anything but your/his breath.
Godzilla's turning in the smoke, about to face off with the MUTO.
The sound design was something else.
This got some (appropriate) laughs in the theatre. I loved it.
Sorry, I meant Godzilla's first appearance in this movie (I think they said he appeared in 1954?).
Frank Zappa
Banned
Was the film planned as a 3D movie?
Anton Sugar
Member
Frank Zappa
Banned
That sounds cool.
crashnburn
Member
So I noticed (easter egg)
. Did anyone else catch this or other throwback easter eggs?
when the father and son returned to their old house in the q zone there was an old insect tank with the word 'Mothra' on it as the camera slow panned.
I felt the exact same way.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Yes. Sound design was absolutely incredible.
Godzilla's deafening roar was glorious.
djplaeskool
Member
Seriously. This movie had better be in the running for audio editing and mixing awards.
The focus on the monstrous sounds was sublime.
The focus on the monstrous sounds was sublime.
TheGoddamn
Member
Just got back from watching it in IMAX 3D, after a media blackout after the first trailer. I cannot echo enough the praise for the sound. I love that the score is primarily horns (with actual melodies!) as opposed to the bassy Inception-copying score that accompanies most contemporary "epic" movies.
Godzilla's
were appreciated by my audience as well.
Godzilla's
finishing moves
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Deleted member 20415
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Definitely noticed this and I think I was the only one in the theater that did because I was pretty damn vocal about it.
I hope they go there for the next one...
Saw it yesterday at 7 and I really, really enjoyed the movie. The 10 year old Godzilla fanboy that lies within me was screaming during so many parts. I wasn't in love with the human characters though. The lead actor needs way more emotional range. If the humans were done better the film would have been incredible, but as it stands, it's a fun, thoughtfully made Godzilla movie with some amazing moments. The whole theater was cheering during several scenes.
I would REALLY love to see a sequel.
DAT ATOMIC BREATH MOMENT
I would REALLY love to see a sequel.
manfestival
Member
Ok I am interested in seeing the movie since I love these kinda movies. I even enjoyed the 98 Godzilla. So how does it compare to something like pacific rim? Since that was the grandiose kaiju film of recent times.
Exactly.
the fact that they killed Cranston so quickly was a huge fucking bummer. That character was way more interesting than any other human character in the film imo
Yeah I definitely caught that. Neat little easter egg.
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Deleted member 20415
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Pacific Rim was pretty much balls-to-the-wall crazy for the entire film. This one has a bit more tension. When I say tension think how atomic-era monster movies always saved the best for last. Think Jaws. The scenes with the big G are just as fun as Pacific Rim though. I would say he steals the show, but it is his movie after all. You'll probably be cheering during several scenes.
That said, it is a little slow at times, but sometimes I think we forget that most Godzilla movies are.
chickdigger802
Banned
There were monster drawings in the grade school walls which is pretty standard stuff in the toho movies with psychic kids nonsense.
Godzilla's biggest problem is that it doesn't seem to have anything coherent as a theme.
The people are just *there* and, with the exception of Bryan Cranston, there is little reason to give a crap about any of them. Even Godzilla isn't internally consistent.
Quotes are pulled from this Godzilla Review:
http://worthplaying.com/article/2014/5/16/reviews/92327/
The trailer for this version if the film is absolutely brilliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIu85WQTPRc
The way it is cut together, it makes it look as though the film is going to explore themes around the creature and man's interaction with nature. Instead we're thrown a messy film about people with whom it's difficult to care about for the first 1-1.5 hours. The last half hour provides some nice fan service moments which are awesome as standalone set pieces, but they don't really gel as part of the movie.
Amazing shots include:
1) Godzilla's first use of atomic fire breath
2) Skydiving into destroyed SF
3) DAT ROAR!
Most memorable shot:
There are a bunch of humans on a beach in Hawaii, along with a dog. Mini-tsunami comes rolling in, humans are all sitting there screaming/yelling. Dog is all "Fuck it, I'm OUT" and takes off ahead of the humans.
Oh, and two local complaints:
1) Since when do BART stations have BLAST DOORS?
2) What idiot tries to evacuate San Francisco to the Oakland Coliseum by way of the Golden Gate Bridge?
Pacific Rim is the better film.
2014 Godzilla had the potential to be amazing (see the aforementioned trailer), but it fails in execution.
The people are just *there* and, with the exception of Bryan Cranston, there is little reason to give a crap about any of them. Even Godzilla isn't internally consistent.
WorthPlaying said:
WorthPlaying said:
Quotes are pulled from this Godzilla Review:
http://worthplaying.com/article/2014/5/16/reviews/92327/
The trailer for this version if the film is absolutely brilliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIu85WQTPRc
The way it is cut together, it makes it look as though the film is going to explore themes around the creature and man's interaction with nature. Instead we're thrown a messy film about people with whom it's difficult to care about for the first 1-1.5 hours. The last half hour provides some nice fan service moments which are awesome as standalone set pieces, but they don't really gel as part of the movie.
Amazing shots include:
1) Godzilla's first use of atomic fire breath
2) Skydiving into destroyed SF
3) DAT ROAR!
Most memorable shot:
There are a bunch of humans on a beach in Hawaii, along with a dog. Mini-tsunami comes rolling in, humans are all sitting there screaming/yelling. Dog is all "Fuck it, I'm OUT" and takes off ahead of the humans.
Oh, and two local complaints:
1) Since when do BART stations have BLAST DOORS?
2) What idiot tries to evacuate San Francisco to the Oakland Coliseum by way of the Golden Gate Bridge?
Pacific Rim is the better film.
2014 Godzilla had the potential to be amazing (see the aforementioned trailer), but it fails in execution.
Anton Sugar
Member
Might wanna spoiler tag some of your fav scenes, bro.
And I COMPLETELY disagree with WorthPlaying about Godzilla's motivation. The characters, yeah, definitely have issues.
He is CONSISTENTLY a force of nature--his only motivation is to establish is dominance as the alpha predator. This is pure instinct. Every action he takes is led by that. He is NEVER hunting for his next meal, so I don't know where they pulled that out of.
Him
"saving" Ford was really just Ford being in the right place at the right time. MUTO mama wasn't dead yet and neither was Godzilla.
All the "Godzilla saved us!" BS at the end was just humanity spinning it, although I agree it was a little goofy. Godzilla didn't stand up and bow, he was just "yeah, that's fucking right" and then swam away.
They're very different movies, but I enjoyed Godzilla more. Pacific Rim was a solid 7/10 for me, Godzilla is 8/10. Pacific Rim takes its paper-thin characters even more seriously than Godzilla's. If Pacific Rim didn't have a great second act, it would be mediocre if not horrible.
I'll definitely agree that Pacific Rim is the better movie, but I'm not sure that Godzilla fails in execution either. The humans have never been the strength of Godzilla movies and there was enough there to make me care whether they died or not in this one. More than I can say for about 85% of Godzilla films. They could have been better, but the film had a great sense of tension, was shot really well, and had some incredible moments as you noted.
Also, this guy enjoyed 1998 Godzilla sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...
My exact reaction to reading that line in his OP. Clearly he must be smoking, delusional, etc.
manfestival
Member
Haters gonna hate
Lovers gonna love
I don't even want
None of the above
I want to piss on you
Lovers gonna love
I don't even want
None of the above
I want to piss on you
With this and the old Dave Chappelle v. Godzilla gif from earlier, all we need is a "fuck yo couch" reference and the threat is pretty much complete.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
Honestly I say Pacific Rim and Godzilla are about on par with each other. It comes down to if you prefer your movies slow burned or more faster paced.
I do think Godzilla has more potential to improve in a sequel if they hire a better writer.
I do think Godzilla has more potential to improve in a sequel if they hire a better writer.
Totally agree. What I would love to see is a new set of actors as well. I would love to get things from a different perspective, especially because I didn't really dig the actors in this movie.
Anton Sugar
Member
I wonder how they'll handle sequels in the universe they've established.
I do agree that a better writer/script will do wonders. Edwards is clearly talented.
Godzilla constantly coming up from the deep to save humanity from any new giant monster is such a goofy conceit, in practice.
I do agree that a better writer/script will do wonders. Edwards is clearly talented.
Spectral Glider
Member
The sequel features a nuclear charged Cranston's wig as the new monster.
Movie was great. The direction is what really made it shine. I had a number of gripes with it but things like the sound design and direction were good enough that I don't even want to bring them up.
They need to bring on some better writers though, and we could possibly have an even better sequel.
They need to bring on some better writers though, and we could possibly have an even better sequel.
Haven't seen the movie yet but assuming that's a good read on the theme, doesn't sound dumb to me. In a climate-change world, we need to understand that nature is pretty unstoppably powerful and it will course correct with or without us. Just depends on what side of the course correction we want to be on.
The Last Wizard
Member
Caught the early showing today and really enjoyed it. Though I can see where the complaints come from. My only thing is was that there was a little too many scenes with humans. It was about a 70/30 split between humans and monsters.
The ending got a big grin outta me. Might go and see it again of friends want to.
The ending got a big grin outta me. Might go and see it again of friends want to.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
So i have seen it yesterday, and my thoughts: I think it's a very good movie.. more then i hoped for and the way reviews were criticizing it.. yeah, i was disappointed that it wasn't so dark or brutal like the first trailers were, but for a summer blockbuster it was suprisingly still intelligent and mostly subtle .. another complain was about that it was boring the first 2/3 of the movie, but i think it was from start to finish almost perfectly paced..the characters were notning special, not even Bryan Cranston character, but they weren't annyoing or something like that..
The more serious themes were almost non-existend, which is a bummer.. they could do with them way more, like the 54' original.. otherwise the monster design was good, if unoriginal, but Godzilla looked and sounded fantastic - could she be more in the movie? well, maybe, but that part didn't seemed like a problem for me.. the use of many teasing of a action scenes and really cool moments is maybe a big problem for many people, but not so much for me..the last half-hour or so is fantastic but I didn't liked the ending - it was too much "hollywood", "america" for me..
From directing and cinematography standpoint, the movie was almost perfect.. many great shots, great use of angles, etc..
Last year i liked Pacific Rim, but this movie is for me far better .. not perfect, not dark or as serious as I expected to be, but still a very good movie..
P.S. some shots from trailer were not in the actual movie, which is disappointing, but what can you do
P.S.S. 3D was, i don't know, almost non-existent, but not once in the whole movie was it getting in the way of enjoying watching the movie
The more serious themes were almost non-existend, which is a bummer.. they could do with them way more, like the 54' original.. otherwise the monster design was good, if unoriginal, but Godzilla looked and sounded fantastic - could she be more in the movie? well, maybe, but that part didn't seemed like a problem for me.. the use of many teasing of a action scenes and really cool moments is maybe a big problem for many people, but not so much for me..the last half-hour or so is fantastic but I didn't liked the ending - it was too much "hollywood", "america" for me..
From directing and cinematography standpoint, the movie was almost perfect.. many great shots, great use of angles, etc..
Last year i liked Pacific Rim, but this movie is for me far better .. not perfect, not dark or as serious as I expected to be, but still a very good movie..
P.S. some shots from trailer were not in the actual movie, which is disappointing, but what can you do
P.S.S. 3D was, i don't know, almost non-existent, but not once in the whole movie was it getting in the way of enjoying watching the movie
Liquidsnake
Banned
I really hope Guillermo del Toro watches this movie.
stufte
Member
haha, I love that commercial.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Pretty awesome movie. Went at 1135 in the am and it was packed.
Frank Zappa
Banned
Got my tickets. 7 more hours!
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Of course he will, he is a monster movie nut!
The Last Wizard
Member
They don't call him Big G for nothin.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
He's probably already seen it.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Well, it does have elements of those movies from a thrill / shock point of view, so I could see those comparisons. The problem with Godzilla (IMHO) was the pacing / overteasing. It showed me too much of what I didn't care about and not enough of what I wanted to see. I'm guessing most of the negative reviews stem from those feelings. I think with better character writing, dialogue, and acting, it would have been absolutely phenomenal, but as it is I simply liked it. There were some parts of the movie that were OMFG awesome though.
Godzilla is going to be a divisive film opinion wise, no two ways about it.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
It is a good movie worth seeing.
john freeman
Member
Everything that had to do with actual Godzilla was goddamn amazing. The sense of scale and destruction, the roar. Also this was one of the cases when movie actually benefited of 3d.
But god damn it, this movie took ages to actually get to the good part. First half and something of it was just formulaic and mind numbingly boring. "Sensei" Ken Watanabe just strolling around baffled, Bryan Cranston overacting. Almost felt like someone is going over a checklist of things that have to be shown. At least there was Elizabeth Olsen to keep me wondering what the heck happened to other Olsen sisters.
But god damn it, this movie took ages to actually get to the good part. First half and something of it was just formulaic and mind numbingly boring. "Sensei" Ken Watanabe just strolling around baffled, Bryan Cranston overacting. Almost felt like someone is going over a checklist of things that have to be shown. At least there was Elizabeth Olsen to keep me wondering what the heck happened to other Olsen sisters.
I got JP vibes in the beginning but it was just location and it quickly went away. Rotten meter is stabilized and I doubt you will see it drop further. I guess Jaws cause Godzilla isn't in the beginning of the movie?
It is ok, probably better if haven't seen all the trailers/ads and such. There isn't anything really wrong with it outside of throwaway human storylines.