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The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
The iOS app just updated for me.

The icon background is now white instead of black. And the logo is smaller. As well as a darkened line at he bottom of the icon.

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Apparently to bring it in line with the rest of their iOS app icons like YouTube, Maps and Google. (Those are the only ones I have) Well not all of their apps are updated yet. But the important ones... like Google+.

Will take some getting used to. I liked the black.
 

Kabuto

Member
The iOS app just updated for me.

The icon background is now white instead of black. And the logo is smaller. As well as a darkened line at he bottom of the icon.

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Apparently to bring it in line with the rest of their iOS app icons like YouTube, Maps and Google. (Those are the only ones I have) Well not all of their apps are updated yet. But the important ones... like Google+.

Will take some getting used to. I liked the black.

I just updated too and they finally fixed the bug where Chrome would look like it was refreshing but it actually didn't. Feel a little snappier too.
 

Milchjon

Member
Any reason why bookmarked sites aren't the first suggestions when I type in the URL?

I hate having a bar of bookmarks (especially since Chrome already takes up a lot of screen space anyway), and because it doesn't suggest them, I have to go through a menu.
 

Gintamen

Member
Since the update, I reopen a closed window with 5+ tabs anymore, sooooo annoying.

The new tab with both the 8 most viewed links and gogle search in one is nice though, but why only now?
 

jokkir

Member
What would the drawbacks of using the beta version of the desktop client be? I want to try and latest build but if it's too buggy then I dont think i'll bother.
 
What would the drawbacks of using the beta version of the desktop client be? I want to try and latest build but if it's too buggy then I dont think i'll bother.

Beta channel is generally ok, most of the biggest issues have been worked out before things get to Beta. Just stay away from dev channel or canary if you're risk-averse.
 

Ran rp

Member
Why doesn't chrome warn you when you're about to exit the browser? Other than the GIF thing this is probably my biggest issue with the browser.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
PSY・S;82745085 said:
Why doesn't chrome warn you when you're about to exit the browser? Other than the GIF thing this is probably my biggest issue with the browser.
On OS X there's an option under the File menu that you can check off. "Warn Before Quitting". I don't know what the Windows analog is to this since Windows has gotten rid of the menubar and it's not under Tools..
 

Number45

Member
There's no alternative in Windows. As far as I can gather it's there in OSX because CMD+W is an often used shortcut (to close tabs) and it's too easy to close the browser by accident.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
There's no alternative in Windows. As far as I can gather it's there in OSX because CMD+W is an often used shortcut (to close tabs) and it's too easy to close the browser by accident.
Yeah, that makes sense. But really, is it a problem if you use session restoring anyway? On Windows you'd have to actually click the X or press what, Alt+F4 to close the window and if you use sessions it'll all just reopen later and pretty much instantly. @PSY, how often do you accidentally close the window? And when you do, which method are you using to do it?
 

Ran rp

Member
Yeah, that makes sense. But really, is it a problem if you use session restoring anyway? On Windows you'd have to actually click the X or press what, Alt+F4 to close the window and if you use sessions it'll all just reopen later and pretty much instantly. @PSY, how often do you accidentally close the window? And when you do, which method are you using to do it?

I accidentally close windows quite a few times because my synaptics touchpad has been malfunctioning since upgrading to Windows 8. Every now and then it bugs out and any touch will instantly move the cursor to the top right corner of the screen, so when I try to click on something and it malfunctions I'll accidentally close the program that I'm using. I haven't checked for new drivers in a while so I should probably get on that, but I've always been annoyed with the lack of a warning message in Chrome.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
PSY・S;83614977 said:
I accidentally close windows quite a few times because my synaptics touchpad has been malfunctioning since upgrading to Windows 8. Every now and then it bugs out and any touch will instantly move the cursor to the top right corner of the screen, so when I try to click on something and it malfunctions I'll accidentally close the program that I'm using. I haven't checked for new drivers in a while so I should probably get on that, but I've always been annoyed with the lack of a warning message in Chrome.
Do you use session restoring? If you do, it shouldn't be a real issue. But I agree, it should be an option. Maybe it's a hidden option you can't set on Windows because of the lack of a menubar. Does Linux have the option/a menu bar in Chrome?
 

Ran rp

Member
Do you use session restoring? If you do, it shouldn't be a real issue. But I agree, it should be an option. Maybe it's a hidden option you can't set on Windows because of the lack of a menubar. Does Linux have the option/a menu bar in Chrome?

Yeah it isn't too bad unless I have a ton of tabs open and lose my place in them, especially on pages with infinite scroll. What I don't get is that Chrome'll warn you if you're downloading something but not at any other time. Not sure about Linux.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
PSY・S;83616421 said:
Yeah it isn't too bad unless I have a ton of tabs open and lose my place in them, especially on pages with infinite scroll. What I don't get is that Chrome'll warn you if you're downloading something but not at any other time. Not sure about Linux.
Infinite scroll is the worst fucking idea anyone ever came up with. You can't paginate it. You lose everything if you accidentally leave it or reload it and Chrome chokes on it like a motherfucker. Any site that uses it should be burned to the ground. Sorry, Destructoid and countless Tumblr blogs. FaceBook and Twitter are fine though because they're simpler and somehow handle it well. But most sites are filled with images and embedded videos. It's horrible.
 

Ran rp

Member
Infinite scroll is the worst fucking idea anyone ever came up with. You can't paginate it. You lose everything if you accidentally leave it or reload it and Chrome chokes on it like a motherfucker. Any site that uses it should be burned to the ground. Sorry, Destructoid and countless Tumblr blogs. FaceBook and Twitter are fine though because they're simpler and somehow handle it well. But most sites are filled with images and embedded videos. It's horrible.

On tumblr blogs with infinite scroll you can navigate by page by typing in whatever.tumblr.com/page/2 and so on, but yeah, it's mostly frustrating and it can get ugly on media heavy pages.
 

Meohsix

Member
I liked the old way were you had the new tab page with apps and the bookmarks on top. Is there any way to get it back the way it was? ;)

In the address bar type: chrome://flags/
Hit CTRL-F and search for extended api
Select "Disabled" in the menu.
Click the "Relaunch Now" button that appears at the bottom of the window.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
PSY・S;83617545 said:
On tumblr blogs with infinite scroll you can navigate by page by typing in whatever.tumblr.com/page/2 and so on, but yeah, it's mostly frustrating and it can get ugly on media heavy pages.
Destructoid used to be my favorite. Then they pulled this crap. It's worse than when the Gawker network changed to that horrible layout they use now. It should be illegal to use infinite scrolling without offering an option to disable it. It used to be a cool visual novelty like CoverFlow, now it's just annoying.

I can't even go to the site anymore if I've been away for a while.

Is it just Chrome or does Safari and maybe Firefox have the same problem? (I know Firefox has problems too as I've visited many a porn site with this feature and it does the same thing.)
 

Edgeward

Member
Is there a way to turn off it showing the sites you most frequent when you go to a new tab in this new version?

edit: disabling the extended api flag works.
 

Zeppu

Member
So out of 10, how drunk do you think the Chrome team was when they designed this new app stuff and decided it was a good idea?
 

neos

Member
Is there something known i can do to make youtube work again?
Last week has been a pain, fullscreen works 1\5 of times, some videos just stops after 20 seconds and restarts from the beginning.
It's a fucking mess to experience
 

SJRB

Gold Member
Wow the new Chrome is so awful. Why do I need two google search bars when I open my browser? Why is the Recently Closed Tabs hidden away inside the options drop menu instead of having it at the bottom of the page where it was situated perfectly fine? Why the fucking doodle in my face everytime I open a new tab?

This is so backwards. Just as their Youtube "updates" have been.
 
Is there something known i can do to make youtube work again?
Last week has been a pain, fullscreen works 1\5 of times, some videos just stops after 20 seconds and restarts from the beginning.
It's a fucking mess to experience

Are you using stable, canary, dev, or beta?
 

Groof

Junior Member
Is there a way to force YouTube to use the HTML5 player? I'm guessing no since I tried to turn off flash and it just told me I needed to install the latest version of flash.
 

RdN

Member
Guys, I have an issue that I can't seem to solve.

I have some websites set to launch with the browser, mainly Facebook and Twitter. Both have my username/password saved, but when I launch Chrome, both those sites don't load the saved info. I have to reload the pages, and then the saved info appears. It's annoying, specially because I have the browser set to delete cookies when it closes.

Anyone knows why and how can I solve this?
 

ThatObviousUser

ὁ αἴσχιστος παῖς εἶ
Don't delete cookies. :p

The issue is that the sites load before the password autocomplete is ready, probably.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
Chrome has a terrible problem with loading things in order. It loads sites and extensions simultaneously so if:

You have some tabs with YouTube open and

You have an extension that makes YouTube not autoplay or otherwise modifies a YouTube page in some way

The page might load BEFORE the extension can be loaded so you end up with half of your pages not injected with extension code. So you might have like 3 or 4 YouTube pages playing videos right off the bat and have to wait for Chrome to finish loading so it becomes responsive so you can stop them

YouTube is of course an example. It applies to any website and extension that needs to modify it.

Chrome needs to LOAD THE EXTENSIONS FIRST, then the pages. But it doesn't. And no one on the Chrome team has a brain to figure this shit out! I mean come the fuck on, Chrome team!
 
Chrome needs to LOAD THE EXTENSIONS FIRST, then the pages. But it doesn't. And no one on the Chrome team has a brain to figure this shit out! I mean come the fuck on, Chrome team!

A slow loading extension could literally kill the browser in that case. That's why Chrome loads extensions asynchronously.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
A slow loading extension could literally kill the browser in that case. That's why Chrome loads extensions asynchronously.
Then there needs to be a timeout. They need to fix it somehow because it renders JavaScript injecting extensions useless at startup.

They really need to implement Firefox's "Load when tab is focused" feature where it doesn't load the tabs at all until you click them.
 

ThatObviousUser

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Sounds like you're proposing a massive performance hole.

Restarting the browser is a rare occurrence and not worth such a hassle.
 
Then there needs to be a timeout. They need to fix it somehow because it renders JavaScript injecting extensions useless at startup.

They really need to implement Firefox's "Load when tab is focused" feature where it doesn't load the tabs at all until you click them.

Even a timeout is too slow. Page Load Time is the #1 benchmark of a browser, both in terms of official benchmarks as well as in terms of what the user just thinks of when they compare browsers based on their own observations. People run many extensions (you know how there's people that run hundreds of tabs? Well...) Delaying page load time by any significant amount (where my definition of significant is pretty damn short) will upset people more than the current issue where extensions can load after a page loads.

That being said, I do agree with you that session restore is a big pain point with Chrome. And I'm fairly certain the developers are aware of it and working to improve it (and by fairly certain I mean certain).
 

spode

Member
I'm a quite the Chrome fanboy and I just wanted to tell you guys in here about François Beaufort Google+ account. Found it a few days ago and he's really damn good at updating it with new features/improvements in Chromium, which I've switched to as my main browser. If you miss the PDF reader or the builtin flash just copy over pdf.dll/pepflashplayer.dll from Chrome. You can safely try it out since Chrome/Chromium profiles are stored seperately.
 
I'm a quite the Chrome fanboy and I just wanted to tell you guys in here about François Beaufort Google+ account. Found it a few days ago and he's really damn good at updating it with new features/improvements in Chromium, which I've switched to as my main browser. If you miss the PDF reader or the builtin flash just copy over pdf.dll/pepflashplayer.dll from Chrome. You can safely try it out since Chrome/Chromium profiles are stored seperately.

Just curious, why do you need Chromium instead of Chrome? If you're not making changes to the source code, what does this buy you? If you're worried about Google's data collection, you can just not sign in to Chrome and opt out of their anonymous usage statistics.
 

spode

Member
Just curious, why do you need Chromium instead of Chrome? If you're not making changes to the source code, what does this buy you? If you're worried about Google's data collection, you can just not sign in to Chrome and opt out of their anonymous usage statistics.
I don't 'need' Chromium. I use it for beta testing 'new features of Chrome' (or I guess alpha testing). Previously I was using Chrome Canary but that isn't updated nearly as often as Chromium is. Not worried about Google's data collecting or anything :p
 
I don't 'need' Chromium. I use it for beta testing 'new features of Chrome' (or I guess alpha testing). Previously I was using Chrome Canary but that isn't updated nearly as often as Chromium is. Not worried about Google's data collecting or anything :p

ahh. Isn't canary updated every 2-3 days though? Where do you download Chromium? I'd heard that you could download chrome binaries somewhere, but I never found it (although admittedly I didn't look very hard).
 

spode

Member
ahh. Isn't canary updated every 2-3 days though? Where do you download Chromium? I'd heard that you could download chrome binaries somewhere, but I never found it (although admittedly I didn't look very hard).
Yeah, Canary does get updated every few days but the Chromium builds are hourly. Here's some instructions on downloading Chromium and there's these instructions for Chrome channels but when I download Chrome I download standalone installers from FileHippo and unpack them with 7-Zip.

Be vary, the chromium builds can be unstable. I'm just a huge fan and like trying all the new stuff they're doing even if other stuff breaks or gets crashy.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
Even a timeout is too slow. Page Load Time is the #1 benchmark of a browser, both in terms of official benchmarks as well as in terms of what the user just thinks of when they compare browsers based on their own observations. People run many extensions (you know how there's people that run hundreds of tabs? Well...) Delaying page load time by any significant amount (where my definition of significant is pretty damn short) will upset people more than the current issue where extensions can load after a page loads.

That being said, I do agree with you that session restore is a big pain point with Chrome. And I'm fairly certain the developers are aware of it and working to improve it (and by fairly certain I mean certain).
It's not affecting page load though. It's just affecting app load time which is excruciatingly long anyway. (It renders my computer pretty slow when loading tabs which makes no sense since they're separate processes. It shouldn't be chewing up all my CPU, especially when it's only loading one at a time anyway.)

I'd rather have a flag in the extension API that says it needs a high priority because it needs to inject into a page at load. They need to figure something out because YouTube is increasingly switching to HTML5 which means Click to Plugin no longer keeps YouTube from auto-playing. I actually wish YouTube had an opposite option for disabling HTML5 because they refuse to put in a "Disable Autoplay" option. The worse thing being that it's all Google here.

I'd switch to Safari if it weren't such a drastically different experience and a lack of extensions that do what I need. But I won't lie and say I don't think about it every day.

Fortunately I don't relaunch Chrome all the time so it isn't a huge problem. But I still hate that 1-2 minutes where all my YouTube tabs are shouting at me and I can't stop them (Via an extension that lets me stop all videos at once) until it finishes loading the tabs because session loading is so horrible on CPU for some reason.
 
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Alright, it's stupid, but I can't figure this out. Does anyone know why I can't simply select one of a few languages in the context menu? It now says 'toon spelling en grammatica' or show spelling and grammer. Which makes no fucking sense at all. Of course I want that, just let met switch between Dutch and English on the fly.

Anyone got a fix?
 
It's not affecting page load though. It's just affecting app load time which is excruciatingly long anyway. (It renders my computer pretty slow when loading tabs which makes no sense since they're separate processes. It shouldn't be chewing up all my CPU, especially when it's only loading one at a time anyway.)

I'd rather have a flag in the extension API that says it needs a high priority because it needs to inject into a page at load. They need to figure something out because YouTube is increasingly switching to HTML5 which means Click to Plugin no longer keeps YouTube from auto-playing. I actually wish YouTube had an opposite option for disabling HTML5 because they refuse to put in a "Disable Autoplay" option. The worse thing being that it's all Google here.

I think we're using different definitions of page load. In any case, a priority won't work either becuase all plugins would just say they're high priority. Chrome can't (and shouldn't) do anything that would make it even *possible* for a plugin to bring the browser down. That doesn't mean there's no solution, it just means that when the internet screams "omg the solution is so obvious, why aren't they doing anything?!" it's usually because the solution is not actually as obvious as you think it is.

In any case, their bug tracker is public, so why not just file a bug? It doesn't make much sense to complain about it to other people who have no power to affect change, when the people who can affect change are right over there.
 
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