Google I/O 2016 |OT|
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Vyse The Legend
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It was almost 600mbs for me, but I'm updating from N Preview 2.
I was looking for that. I guess it didn't make the cut.But dark mode disappeared... AGAIN
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Google knows Light > Dark themes every damn time
Wasn't able to view at work. Can someone give me a breakdown of what's been revealed and what we're freaking out over?
Lots of dub dubs and bots bots.
https://www.reddit.com/live/wxvyt3ogrb31/Wasn't able to view at work. Can someone give me a breakdown of what's been revealed and what we're freaking out over?
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Just_myles
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Great ideas. Let's see how far they take them.
It's so good.
Wait, did Google Home said that apples in Spanish is "Menzanas"
Menzanas?
It's the accent. It also happen when the Spanish voice has to say something in English.
Jzero
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Wait, did Google Home said that apples in Spanish is "Menzanas"
Menzanas?
I mean that's how every white person sounds when they speak Spanish.
Where can I get this update?
Also, will any device with Google assistant be able to control smart appliances like Google home?
TwoDurans
"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
Two was pretty bad. Like alpha level bad.
P3 that came out today is supposed to be a daily driver, but it hasn't been out enough for people to decide yet.
eyeball_kid
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Because Google wants to steal the thunder of Apple announcements at WWDC, which is next month. They do these premature announcements every year.
I will say that Allo looks extremely impressive though, if it actually works as promised. Apple better have some big Siri news coming up or they're going to look more and more behind the times on assistant tech.
UltimaPooh
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Allo looks awesome...
but why not just incorporate it into hangouts? It's practically already their whatsapp and messenger app.
Maybe Allo is just a jumping off point and they'll incorporate it into hangouts down the line?
Is Hangouts even popular ? I feel like once they got rid of Google talk people moved away to something else.
The main developer of Allo also stated that Allo is brand new form scratch, code wise. Hangouts probably has a lot of Talk and Google voice code that would weigh it down.
Also hangouts requires you to have a Google account, where as Allo is like WhatsApp and all you need is a mobile number to use it.
Ultimately Google wants to push RCS, an alternative to SMS, which is something they've been trying to do since they bought Jibe Mobile last year.
Currently Sprint and T-Mobile support some format of it.
UltimaPooh
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I use hangouts :/ But also Facebook messenger.
Hangouts mostly for texts tho since it works with my Google Voice.
But why? What are people doing with their Echo? Do you have internet light bulbs? I still don't get the appeal.
UltimaPooh
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Yeah.
If you're not going to automate your home I find it pretty useless.
But if you are going to automate it.
Are there internet coffee machines? Internet ovens? Those could be useful. But just for a bunch of light bulbs? I don't know, I don't see it yet. Don't get me wrong, I love me some gadgets man, but this I can't wrap my head around. I just don't see myself asking that thing what the weather is like when I could tap twice on my phone instead.
I use smart home devices (philips hue, nest, web, belkin wemo). Google Home enables it to link to my google account (email, youtube red, google play). Echo can't.
The biggest thing is chromecast audio compatibility to have music playing in individual rooms or multiple rooms at once. That, and I only have 200 songs on amazon... whilst on my google play account I have a streaming subscription addition to my full uploaded collection of music.
makingmusic476
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Why do they keep coming up with more and more messaging apps? The transition from Talk to Hangouts and the wait for SMS integration in Hangouts was already a clusterfuck. Why do that again??
I'm liking what I'm hearing about Allo, but why not just add those features to Hangouts?
Hopefully they'll offer seamless migration from Hangouts to Allo via an update. I really don't want my friends scattering to different services because of this. Though even a mere name change might throw some of them off.
I'm liking what I'm hearing about Allo, but why not just add those features to Hangouts?
Hopefully they'll offer seamless migration from Hangouts to Allo via an update. I really don't want my friends scattering to different services because of this. Though even a mere name change might throw some of them off.
RoadHazard
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So the main thing is that you just want to be able to say "OK Google, play me some Bieber in the living room", instead of having to tap maybe three times on your phone to accomplish the same thing? I mean sure, it's a bit more convenient! But until you have a large network of smart home stuff I don't really see the big draw. As for the conversational stuff, your phone can do the same thing. The difference I guess is being able to just "talk to your home". Which is perhaps cool, but yeah, to me it just seems slightly more convenient than using your phone for the same things. Like smartwatches.
Marty Chinn
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It's about always available without having to grab or pull up anything, especially handy when your busy or your hands are full. Once you become accustomed to it, having to pull out your phone is just cumbersome to do basic things. You use the example of the weather how all you could do is reach down pull up your phone, unlock it and go to the weather app or Google Now to see the weather. That's annoying when I'm trying to get my kids ready for school and I'm occupied doing something else while wanting to know what the weather is like to know what type of clothes to dress my kids into. Having to stop to grab my phone to do that is making me stop what I'm doing and slows me down in the morning.
https://developer.android.com/wear/preview/index.html
Best change so far is controls replacing the watch face when you're playing anything with music controls.
eyeball_kid
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My guess is Google is trying to position Allo as a serious iMessage competitor by integrating SMS and the assistant stuff. Right now not being "blue text bubbles" with iPhone friends means you're a second-class citizen. It's been a good marketing strategy for Apple. I think Google wants to create a messaging service that is as desirable. Whether that will be the case any more than their previous messaging apps is a big question.
But having an assistant snooping all your conversations is not necessarily an awesome thing for fans of privacy.
Thing is, for a lot of people convenience trumps privacy. And I agree. Most of the time there's no need for complete privacy and in those times it is needed, there are E2E encrypted chats.
I also think they should phase out Hangouts and other chat apps they currently have as soon as possible. It will be the only way this gains any traction.
I don't keep my phone in my hand 24/7. It's really simple.
How is it more convenient?
Saying, "ok google, set kitchen lights to full brightness, set alarm for 20 minutes, and play my playlist" is only one step.
makingmusic476
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The problem is how do you get people to actually use Allo? My social circle is already juggling Hangouts and Facebook Messenger, and I imagine dropping Hangouts would just make people default to Facebook as opposed to switching to Allo.
It's already there, and you're getting messaged on it constantly anyhow. What's the motivation to get yet another app?
Edit: And if the theory that Allo is meant to accompany Android's new SMS app, as opposed to be some sort of default replacement, is accurate, then it'll never have the traction of iMessage.
They couldn't even steal WCW Thunder with Allo, let alone actual thunder.
PuppetSlave
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Well, one downside with hangouts at my company has been the requirement for google accounts. If I understand correctly this new allo/duo would only require an phone-number.
Got to admit, as an developer working for an company that have been going in the progressive web app direction(and polymer) last few years, what google is saying is incredibly validating and fun to hear.
always fun betting on the right horse so to speak.
Got to admit, as an developer working for an company that have been going in the progressive web app direction(and polymer) last few years, what google is saying is incredibly validating and fun to hear.
always fun betting on the right horse so to speak.makingmusic476
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Well, one downside with hangouts at my company has been the requirement for google accounts. If I understand correctly this new allo/duo would only require an phone-number.
Got to admit, as an developer working for an company that have been going in the progressive web app direction(and polymer) last few years, what google is saying is incredibly validating and fun to hear.
My concern with basing it on mobile numbers is that, while it might be more convenient in the near term, it further entrenches the cellular + internet paradigm, as opposed to moving us towards an all data/internet future.
Thanks. Hoping to install soon. Liking the look of the new app drawer. UI updates needed so I'm glad they're still improving.
PuppetSlave
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Yes, I don't really disagree with you but so far all internet solutions I have encountered have been their own walled gardens so to speak. requiring both parties to be members like in the hangout case or Skype problems I have had where the meeting room chrome OS computer did not allow it...
Skype on an regular phone just plain suck, sound quality wise.
RoadHazard
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Yes, that's more convenient...? That's what I'm saying.
Anyway, sure, have fun with that, seems pretty cool! There's no way in hell (frozen-over or not) this shit is happening here in Sweden. Maybe in 10 years.
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