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Google+ |OT| A New Social Network
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Yeah, I'm finally in!
A few things are kind of confusing, and I haven't gone back through this thread yet to see if they were talked about yet. I'm totally lost as to how I post something to a friend's page, or if that's even a concept on Google+. I guess maybe I just add them to the "share to..." part when I post something? But wouldn't that go to my page as well? Or maybe no.
Also, REALLY confusing, my stream's post are in absolutely no sort of order date-wise. That's really, really confusing.
A few things are kind of confusing, and I haven't gone back through this thread yet to see if they were talked about yet. I'm totally lost as to how I post something to a friend's page, or if that's even a concept on Google+. I guess maybe I just add them to the "share to..." part when I post something? But wouldn't that go to my page as well? Or maybe no.
Also, REALLY confusing, my stream's post are in absolutely no sort of order date-wise. That's really, really confusing.
G+ makes no distinction between "messages" and "private posts". Anything you share enters your stream and is posted to the stream of people you share with. I think if you share with an individual person, G+ notifies that person so they can check it. Haven't tested that theory though.shidoshi said:
Starting to think that some of the more finite aspects of G+ require a tutorial, just because of how different things are.
https://www.google.com/support/profiles/bin/answer.py?hlrm=en&answer=1192471
Has this been posted here already?
On one hand, I can see why this might be a bad idea. On the other hand, the internet hasn't really cooperated with something like this so it's never really been tried. What do you think GAF?
Has this been posted here already?
On one hand, I can see why this might be a bad idea. On the other hand, the internet hasn't really cooperated with something like this so it's never really been tried. What do you think GAF?
Gary Whitta
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Being on Google+ right now is pretty cool, it's like Facebook after a virus has wiped up 99.9% of the world's population.
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CajoleJuice
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Or like Facebook when it was only like 10 colleges. Sigh, those were the days.Gary Whitta said:
Jamesfrom818
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Gary Whitta said:
Are you really posting the same thing on your Google+?
Terrell said:
Yeah, this whole concept is still feeling weird to me. Like, on Facebook, if I have something I want to make sure my friend sees, I go to their wall and post it. On here, I don't understand how to do that.
For example, I just did a test where the idea was "I want my friend Bob (fake name) to see this". So, I hit the share box, and added two share points: Public and Bob. Due to having it Public, I believe, it's on my profile page under "Posts". I don't really want it there, but I also don't want to make it just so that only my friend can see it. And when I wanted to add Bob, there was no way to just go to his profile and post something that included him - I had to type his name into that share box, which seems a bit odd. And then, when I did, if I go to his profile page and look under posts, my image isn't there.
I realize that a lot of it is just a different concept for doing this stuff, but it feels weird for now. With Facebook, I could post something to my page directly if I wanted all my friends to see it, or I could post it to a friend's page, so that s/he and her/his friends could see it as well. Like, it was that social content-sharing. This feels a little more like Twitter - which, oddly enough, I love Twitter, but in the confines of what it is, and not necessarily as a full social experience.
I just really need to play with this more.
stealing this from Dave Cohenshidoshi said:
what it really does, and certainly will do even more so after the field trial is over, is let you tailor your inbound and outbound communications to your needs and preferences, but that applies to everyone. so if someone finds you annoying, no there is no way to finagle your way onto their "wall." it's all about true contextual reciprocity rather than just shit do i really have to accept my 6th-grade classmate as a friendSharing
When sharing content in Google+, you have some different options for who to share it with:
1) You can share it to individuals by autocompleting their names or entering an email address, and only these people will see your post.
2) You can share it with one or more circles. Only the people in the circles you chose will see the post.
3) You can share it to Extended Circles, which means your circles, and all of your circles' circles (kind of like friends-of-friends).
4) You can share it publicly, which means anyone can see your post.
5) Or, you can share to any combination of the above.
Consuming
With any of the sharing choices above, people will only see your post in their stream if they have you in a circle. So even if I share to my "best friends" circle, my friends won't see my post unless they also have me in one of their circles (or if they go to my profile).
Conversely, if I want to read my best friends' posts, just having them in my circle isn't good enough. They need to share their posts to a circle that includes me.
What does this mean for you as a Google+ user?
You know all those random people adding you to circles you? Don't worry about them, they'll only see your posts if you post publicly, or (maybe) if you post to your extended network.
Fine-tuning your circles is really the key to making the most out of Google Plus.
And, as most of you know, Google Plus is only about a week old! We're listening to all your feedback and writing code as fast as we canThis is one of the most energetic and passionate teams I've been on over my 6 years at Google. Expect a lot of great improvements, big and small, rolling out on a continual basis.
but yeah the sooner you let go of these silly constructs facebook has created the better, at least in terms of g+ usage. it's actually pretty easy to grasp without holding on to those dogmatically, at least based on my experience with people
PkunkFury
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I'm starting to think this may be too confusing for the average user (i.e. I can't picture my mom understanding and managing circles properly)
Also looking forward to a lot of "oops" moments where people share comments or info with the wrong circles by accident, and the media playing these up
I, however, love it
Also looking forward to a lot of "oops" moments where people share comments or info with the wrong circles by accident, and the media playing these up
I, however, love it
AstroLad said:
No, I'm totally on board with that idea, because that's exactly why I've come to want to use Facebook as little as possible. My confusion right now is more in how content posted to G+ is presented when it's shared, not questions like who it gets shared to. Facebook's system - for good or bad - makes total sense.
I think my confusion will go away once I've had the chance to actually interact with others on this thing. For now, it's just me pushing buttons and seeing what does what.
There is another thing I've run into, and it might be a case of RTFM, so you know. I set my phone number to be "Circles", but... I don't want ALL of my circles to be able to see it. Like, family and friends, cool, but acquaintances? Not really. I need to get stuff like that figured out.
Edit: Oh, and the near total lack of integration with YouTube is kind of bizarre to me. I can pull in my photos from Picasa, but not videos from YouTube, and when adding links to my profile, they give a long list of accounts you can link to, but not a default for YouTube.
Click the dropdown that lets you specify who sees it, click Custom, and it gives you full control of some circles seeing your details over others.shidoshi said:
shidoshi said:
EDIT: OK, I see the confusion... G+ doesn't spread the content you generate around. Rather than posting on someone else's wall, it keeps your post in YOUR page and is viewable by the individual names you add to it; they are also notified of this post if you add their individual name to it. Similarly, even if you add his name to share it with them, it's not HIS content, so it won't appear on HIS profile.
Help make sense of it better now?
shidoshi said:
For your Profile, go to the page, then Edit Profile, then click on the relevant field and Custom. You can select very fine-grained visibility there, down to either specific circles or even just individual users if you want (or specific circles + certain individuals). And just to be on the safe side, after you hit Done Editing, you can always punch in the name of users into the View Profile As box to see what others can see (including the public).
All very great points.shidoshi said:
You go to your friend's page and there's no way to interact with him there. You have hit "home" or click the share box on your toolbar and type out his name to write him a message.
The more you experience Google+, you find that it's more about content sharing, and less about social interaction.
I thought more about this, basically here's what I think about it: http://hylian7.blogspot.com/2011/07/my-thoughts-on-google-forced-public.htmlHylian7 said:
Rocket Scientist
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Don't have time for a better image, but perhaps it's better to look at it this way. Everything you post, ends up on your own page/''wall''. What circles do is limit what a person viewing your page sees. Anything a certain person can see on your page, ends up in the stream of the circle they have you in.
Monkeylord
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I need a good way to figure out if the people who I've put in my Mini-GAF circle are actually from GAF. I've made the mistake of adding all the people who I know to my Friends Circle, and everyone else who've added me to my Mini-GAF Circle.
... Hmmmm
... Hmmmm
Stahsky
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It's a long-form of Twitter with more privacy options and a profile.Rocket Scientist said:
Which leaves it in a weird position in the social networking world. I don't think it competes with Facebook at all for what Facebook's purpose is, and it's messier than Twitter for what Twitter's purpose is.
Battersea Power Station
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What do you guys think of the new Gmail look preview? I don't like it much, but that's probably because I'm not used to it. After a couple of days, I switched back to my Android theme, which I find the best for readability. It's nice and easy on the eyes, with contrast in the right places.
When they make the Gmail+ look default, they'll probably leave the "classic" themes as an option, so I'm not sure what I'll do.
When they make the Gmail+ look default, they'll probably leave the "classic" themes as an option, so I'm not sure what I'll do.
Finally one of the 20+ invites I sent out has activated!
Finally, it's been a week of sharing topics with myself!
This would feel better if the person actually talks though :<
Btw anyone use the huddle feature yet? I tried to huddle with some people, but they got annoyed with the spam, they really need to bring out some huddle compatibility with Blackberry (considering the whole world is on it)
Finally, it's been a week of sharing topics with myself!
This would feel better if the person actually talks though :<
Btw anyone use the huddle feature yet? I tried to huddle with some people, but they got annoyed with the spam, they really need to bring out some huddle compatibility with Blackberry (considering the whole world is on it)
RoadHazard
Gold Member
PkunkFury said:
When you share stuff with people not already on Google+ they'll be receiving e-mails about it, yes. Not when you're just adding them to or moving them between circles, though.
Battersea Power Station said:
I like the dense preview theme. The regular one has far too much padding between everything.
Battersea Power Station
Member
Do you use right side chat? I love it with the current themes, but the Preview ones put in way too much padding and empty space. They said they're working on it, though, so I'm sure it'll look better when it's ready.RoadHazard said:
needlejuice said:
I think a very real difference here is that Google+ can be seamlessly and without embarrassment be used for business. Right now, you pretty much have to create a separate business/professional facebook page because most clients/co-workers don't want to know your views on Lady Gaga and Murderer Mom.
Google+ allows you to seamlessly integrate your personal and professional life into a single social network which 1. reduces the hassle and 2. means I no longer have to tell clients I can't be their social network friend (a real hassle in my line of work). It's also a great collaboration tool for small businesses that maybe don't have the huge budget for a Cisco infrastructure.
I'm super impressed so far.
LyleLanley
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JackEtc said:
Does adding them to circles not work? That's how I was inviting people last night.
sixteen-bit
Member
Is there any way to sort the photo order in photo albums?
CajoleJuice
Member
I thought I was the only one who felt this way.OuterWorldVoice said:
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