Google Play Music All Access

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shagg_187 said:
Awesome! Can't wait to si-

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... Seriously? Canada gets shafted again? They don't like our money?!
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I just signed up in Canada.

I just claimed the billing address on my card is in the states. I wonder if they'll charge my card past the trial.
 
bjscott05 said:
Anyone else think it takes forever to download songs for offline play? With spotify it would only take seconds for a song, with google music it takes way longer.
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yep. most all my friends have had this issue also.

Jeramii said:
I also find that when I pin an album to my device it takes almost an hour to download on 30-40mbps down wifi, and up to 3 hours on 4G (at 20mbps down). Prior to all access being released I never had any problems like this.
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Jeramii said:
I'm a bit fucking annoyed with buffering issues. It doesn't matter if I have the HQ mode checked or unchecked. It buffers every 15-20 seconds. I have Verizon 4G and on average have speeds of 20mbps down.

I also find that when I pin an album to my device it takes almost an hour to download on 30-40mbps down wifi, and up to 3 hours on 4G (at 20mbps down). Prior to all access being released I never had any problems like this.

I have a friend who ditched spotify on his motorolla, and went all access and he is having the exact same issues.

It's unusable in this state. However, if I tether my 4G connection to my computer, desktop mode works perfect with 0 buffering issues.
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I'm having the same problem. I'm also on fios with a 50/30 connection but buffering and saving for offline are incredibly slow. Before the update pinning song took a minute or two max, now it takes 30+minutes
 
I saw the trial, and balked for a couple reasons. I'm terrible at cancelling free trials on time. I don't listen to music enough to really maximize this service. And I kinda don't like the idea of paying for my own music. That's essentially what this is. Google's just reselling all the music we users filled their servers with during the beta. They've been cloning songs across accounts for a while. I know this because I've had some radio edits replace some uncensored music I've uploaded before, and had to jump through hoops to get the proper version uploaded.

Also, it sounds like it eats up a ton of bandwidth. Streaming was never really good with Play Music to begin with, which is why I basically just make playlists and select those for offline play, while I'm still on wifi at home. That way I don't have to stream anything. PEACE.
 
Signed up the hour it was released next day I unsubscribed from Spotify. I haven't had any issues and have an unlimited data plan. I haven't really found something to complain about with it yet.
 
Damian. said:
If I had just a few songs, this would be great, but I'm not doing it for hundreds of songs across many albums. Any solution that isn't batshit insane?
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No idea if there's a way to batch edit songs. I suppose you could correct them as you come across them. Otherwise, I don't think you have anhy other choice for now.
 
If I start Google Music All Access now, then cancel in two months, will it still be $8? Or is it only $8 until you cancel? Then the $10?
 
Everdred said:
I believe it's $8 until you cancel. So even if you cancelled for a week it would go back up to $10.
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I'll shoot Google an email. It reads like you're forever locked in the $8 price to me, even though I believe you're probably right.
 
Got it :

Thank you for contacting Google Play.

If you cancelled your free trial to Google Play Music All Access, you will still be able to use the service until the end of the 30 day free trial period. If you decide to sign up again, you can do so once the trial period has expired. Once you sign up for the service again you will still have the pricing of $7.99.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,

Mark
 
Bboy AJ said:
Got it :

Thank you for contacting Google Play.

If you cancelled your free trial to Google Play Music All Access, you will still be able to use the service until the end of the 30 day free trial period. If you decide to sign up again, you can do so once the trial period has expired. Once you sign up for the service again you will still have the pricing of $7.99.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,

Mark
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Wow, that's generous of Google.
 
Bboy AJ said:
Got it :

Thank you for contacting Google Play.

If you cancelled your free trial to Google Play Music All Access, you will still be able to use the service until the end of the 30 day free trial period. If you decide to sign up again, you can do so once the trial period has expired. Once you sign up for the service again you will still have the pricing of $7.99.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,

Mark
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As much as I'd like to believe that, I wouldn't be surprised if the information he gave is wrong.
 
I contacted support about buffering issues, despite being on a 4G 20mbps down connection, as well as albums taking an eternity to pin (on wifi, or 4g).

Here is the answer, though it's not surprising:

"Hello Jeremy,

Thank you for contacting Google Play Support. We’re aware of some issues affecting the Radio feature on Google Play Music All Access. We’re working on a fix and will follow up once it’s available.

If you have any other questions or concerns feel free to reply back.

Regards,

Joe
Google Play Support"
 
Maybe that's not how these things typically work, but that's how the promotion reads to me. That's the reason I asked. And his response is in line with exactly what I read.
 
this_guy said:
Does anyone know what bit rate the service streams or downloads at?
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https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1391343?hl=en

When playing your music from the cloud, Google Play will detect the speed of your internet connection and adjust the bit rate based on available bandwidth. Music will be played at a higher bit rate (up to 320Kbps) when using a fast internet connection.

Google Play offers the option to only stream songs at high quality, regardless of the bandwidth currently available.
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is it because if you play one song from a 500 song playlist, it adds all 500 songs to your "Queue" and it starts to cache all the songs?

I'm on a desktop right now, but if I clear my queue and then play a song from a 37 song playlist, when I go back to the Queue, all 37 songs are in there.

I mean... I thought this is how other streaming services work, but maybe Goog is just caching too much?
 
Marty Chinn said:
Despite that being the bitrate, for some reason there is A LOT more data being downloaded.
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Just curious, but could it make a difference to data usage if you were to turn off the feature that downloads all songs as you play? I haven't tried that since I am one of the people having terrible buffering issues, so I don't stream away from wifi.

I ask because if you download an HD video from YouTube or other services, vs streaming them.. It's a lot less data usage.
 
I've been streaming my music on google music to my phone since it first started. I've been averaging about 3GB/month just from music. When I'm at home, it cuts down a lot on the data.
 
so how would i do this if i'm from europe?

edit: IF i already have a music account, I mean.
 
Delusibeta said:
Yeah, downloading tracks for offline use over Wi-fi is always the correct approach in my opinion.
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It would be, but it's insanely slow with Google All Access. I signed up while connected to WIFI at work, thinking I'd download a few albums for my commute home. Left the office annoyed when literally nothing downloaded. The whole pin icon thing is also not very clear on whether it's working or not; you pin something for keeps, and sometimes nothing happens for no clear reason.

I have 50Mb connection at home and it's still incredibly slow -- it downloaded a whopping FOUR songs from one album while I got ready for work this morning (30-40 minutes). Based on the services I've used, downloading ranks like this:

Spotify (fast; seconds) >> Mog (quick; a number of seconds to a minute) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google All Access (insanely slow; 10 minutes per song? Longer?)

It really feels like the 56Kbps music download days.
 
I've been using this since the 20th, and I got some comments.

It doesn't download to the SD card, and that's bollocks. It takes a bit to start a song when you select it. Downloads are rather slow.

But, DAMN IT they got almost every song by the bands I like. Even the hispanic stuff.

Pain, They Might Be Giants, Walk The Moon, La Oreja de Van Gogh, Anamanaguchi, etc.

I love it.

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Also, what the fuck is up with the interface?
Clean that shit up, and give us lists, Google.
 
Yeah, the lack of lists really bothers me. I don't need to see huge thumbnails every time I view Artists or Albums. It would be nice to have friednly interface options. Oddly enough, the Songs tab has a list view... this thing is inconsistent.
 
It changes my explicit music to its clean version, too.

The radio is putting in work, though. Set it to play based on Al Green and it went in. I'll try a more obscure reference point next time but so far I'm impressed.

Interface is better than Spotify's as well.

The download being terrible is a deal breaker, however.
 
I used to be able to download my entire collection in like 30 minutes using my brother in law's Fios, but now it's just sluggish with how slow it takes to download even a single song.
 
I find it really annoying, and yet a bit of irony and funny that the search is absolutely terrible in this. There are things that I will search for, but it will not show up. Like if I search for an album, it may not show but if I search for a song that I know exists on the album, I might be able to find it that way when the track listing comes up. I can't believe how terrible this is when this is from Google.
 
Sounds like they have a few issues to work out. I'm still going to give it a go as my Rdio payment comes up next week, so I'll cancel this and at least give Google Music a shot.
 
Seems like a whole album caches itself automatically when you pick just one song. That would explain the data issues.
 
Anyway to manually change the album art from the phone? I really like the images it shows when you select a band, and I would sometimes rather have an image of the band instead of album art when I'm browsing through my artists.
 
Was finally able to sign up from Canada... What quality are the songs at, 320? This has some stuff spotify didn't have like taylor swift
 
Last night I created a playlist on my PC and this morning I added a few more songs from my phone but for some reason the updated playlist from my phone won't update on the browser, anyone know how to force update the playlist?

Also, is there a way to change the art that shows up when selecting artists in my library?
 
I've had good experiences with the service over the web-app when I'm at work or at home.

The updated Google Music app for Android is another matter entirely. Issues off the top of my head:

- Albums still scroll up even when in landscape mode. The old, pre-All Access version did horizontal scrolling when in landscape.

- Art that displays while stuff is playing isn't scaled properly to display in landscape, it's like zooming a 4:3 picture to fit the horizontal of a 16:9 tv and cutting off the majority of the top and bottom

- The apparently did away with the quick access button to change the output device (ie. switch from phone speaker to a bluetooth output device). This is VERY annoying since it frequently doesn't play over Bluetooth the first time and on the old version I could quickly switch it back to the phone and then back to bluetooth to fix the issue. Now I'm stuck as I can't find an option in the app AT ALL to switch the output device.

- No option for SD card pinning of music.

That's it off the top of my head. I use my phone almost exclusively landscape in the car, so the first two points are big deals for me since that's pretty much the only time I'd use the phone app.
 
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