I think my Senior year, APA was mentioned once in English class.
Got an F on a college essay for swearing?
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chronic_archaic
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Already stated but over two hours of work went into it. It wasn't a rush job, just poor writing and timing.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
That's some amateur shit bro
Writing is more than an art: it is a form of communication. It is your responsibility to do the heavy lifting in making your ideas both appealing and understandable to your audience.
clearestblue
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I remember my first college-level English course and my professor told us to forget literally everything we were ever taught in high school about English because it was bad and wrong, lol.
excelsiorlef
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Good lord....
No you need to be good.... Passionate can be, and is part of good, but passionate garbage is still garbage.... Getting an F isn't go anywhere either.
You shouldn't feel accomplished by an F... what did you accomplish?
2 hours on an essay is absolutely a rush job.
Chuck Norris
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Wow such dedication
You can't always be passionate about everything. That is not sustainable.
It honestly feels like you aren't learning anything at all. Why do you feel accomplished. I'm not trying to be mean, but you wrote a bad essay using a mindset that will lead to you continuing to write bad essays. That's whatever if you're okay with making bad grades, but why would you feel accomplished about it?
High school English classes are generally geared towards teaching students to write in a way that will get them into college. It's not so much wrong as something you need to move past.
You really ask your teacher if you can resubmit the paper or something.
With this approach in academia, I'd say you need a couple of more reality checks. I'm utterly amazed at the lack of introspection and awareness among today's youths, good lord. Ah well, any approach to not completely demotivate you and crush your spirits, I guess.
Chuck Norris
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Two hours of work on a college essay IS a rush job. I don't think I ever spent so little time on an essay, even the rush jobs
Supermanisdead
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Why does this start with a definition of a poem. Your college poetry professor knows what a poem is...
Two hours spent on an essay in college is way under the amount you should be spending on it. That shit may have been okay in highschool but university expects way more out of students especially where writing is concerned.
Yes really, especially in the context of writing an essay for college. Is that really that difficult to comprehend?
brianmcdoogle
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Not to be an ass, but we've now gone from CENSORSHIP to ARTISTIC EXPRESSION to suicide/depression to drunkenness to "I only spent two hours on it" on why this essay is as bad as it is.
Not to bring up this thread, but I feel like the genuine answer to a lot of things is just "scapegoating."
Not to bring up this thread, but I feel like the genuine answer to a lot of things is just "scapegoating."
Again Ill use music as an example because the thread is moving fast.
Im learning to play guitar and music theory along with it. If I were to compose a solo to a backing track, it could certainly be passionate but it would still have to follow the rules of music theory.
If the backing track I have to use is in Am/C and I compose a solo in Dm, it will sound terrible. I could be as skilled as Steve Vi in my speed and techniques, and as passionate too, but that doesnt change that it wouldnt mesh and sound out of tune (because it is).
Being passionate about something is great! But expression comes from how you handle the realities of the limitations set in your chosen medium.
Have you read his subsequent posts? I don't really get the feeling he takes this ordeal to heart. 2 hours in total for a paper? lol
Chuck Norris
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He's getting mauled because he is proud of his F
excelsiorlef
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I just hope you didn't take a class room spot from someone who would give a shit and want to be there.
It's an emotional rollercoaster is what it is.
Whether your drunk excuse is true or not (I feel it is used too often to be true in so many cases), it certainly doesn't make you look any better. If anything, it's questionable as to why you thought submitting an essay written in a drunken state was a good idea. Even more questionable as to why you then decided to start questioning the grade you got afterwards.
OP, you are, as you have self proclaimed, a mess. One who needs to use his noggin more often. Now is not the time to try defending yourself. You lost that battle the moment you posted this thread. Now is the time to take your L and learn from this.
CaviarMeths
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Like, I'm trying to imagine how the words fuck and shit would even end up in an academic paper unless they were direct quotes. The purpose of an essay is to persuade and if you can't "make your feelings clear" in written format with all the prep time in the world, then you're not very fucking good at it.
umop_3pisdn
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You're right that people will often casually dismiss writing or argumentation because it doesn't conform to the sensibilities of their discipline. But when it comes to self-editing, I think it's often hard to differentiate style from extravagance, especially in undergrad, but if you've identified what you think is necessary in your work, then you're already approaching some justification for your style or argument whatever it is. 'Necessity' isn't going to be the same across the disciplines, but philosophical writing is pretty good at emphasizing it in general.
LookAtMeGo
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Ahhh gotcha
chronic_archaic
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It's not for defending myself or anything really. It's giving the facts as the why I'm realizing this essay probably was poor and it took about 100 people telling me that to realize it - I'm too proud and I'm admitting to that, when I posted the topic I was mad, now I have more insight.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
How is two hours not a rush job. Damn, millennials
NoctisVsStar
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Why would you even curse on a Academic Paper? That makes no sense to me even if it's not stated on the syllabus.
CHUNKYBOWSER
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Maybe I got lucky with my high school. I never considered myself a good writer until I got to college and saw how other students wrote. For some reason I find it hard to articulate my thoughts on forums, though. I've been a junior member for years. I'm a lurker.
chronic_archaic
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Yeah, you seem like a wonderful man. Piss off, I'm getting through life day by day. If you could articulate the least bit you'd know I'd already realized the essay is shit.
That's it people, I'm done with the thread. I've gotten everything I've needed out of it and then some. Remind me to not post confessionals on neogaf anymore too... or that might be a good thing.
MooseKnuckles
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Two hours would be a rush job even for a competent writer, and you literally just admitted to being drunk while writing it. And you didn't even bother re-reading it before submission.
I thought this thread had been savage enough to get through to you, but apparently not. You fucked up on multiple fronts here, and will keep failing unless you change your attitude and approach.
excelsiorlef
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*Woman
Almost everyone is getting through life day to day.
You:
a) Wrote the essay drunk
b) spent only 90 minutes on it
c) Littered it with profanity
d) Admitted you probably don't care about the course
e) Tried to claim your artistic voice was being censored by your instructor
e) Felt accomplished even though you got a freaking F
Yet I'm a jerk because I said I hoped you weren't denying someone who wanted to be in the class a spot.
Reading the other bits of information make me believe you deserve that F because it comes across to me that you didn't take this assignment seriously enough. Writing it while inebriated and only working on it for two hours isn't something someone who really wanted a good grade would do.
You need to do better.
You need to do better.
You didn't get the reinforcement you were looking for and have so far ignored your wake up call.
Grow up.
BlazingDarkness
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Hilarious thread, thanks OP.
Yes, you deserved the F.
Yes, you deserved the F.
I apologize if my comments gave the impression that I am criticizing the level of academic rigor in those fields. I, too, get frustrated with the uncritical (and frankly, usually ignorant) blanket dismissal of certain academic disciplines by people in STEM fields. What I was calling "fluff" in that example isn't the literary analysis itself, but more stylistic things like having long introductions and conclusions in a short essay, making overly broad statements/platitudes, tautological statements, etc.
As for being anti-prescriptivist, I am also of the mind that my grading rubrics should revolve primarily around content. The issue I have with just grading on the content is that this excuses a lot of bad writing in a field that is already replete with bad writing. I find a lot of people in STEM don't 1) get enough practice writing and 2) get feedback on what constitutes good and clear writing. The fact that style is rarely emphasized in technical fields is why so much of what is out there is hard to parse and filled with unnecessary jargon.
NoctisVsStar
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With all due respect... OP was a dumbass.
Just take the L and do better next time around.
Bounceounce
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Seek therapy OP.
Your delusions aren't healthy.
That's really all that needs to be said.
Your delusions aren't healthy.
That's really all that needs to be said.
No doubt. But I think he got the message after the 4th page.
brianmcdoogle
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Considering after the 4th page his reasons/excuses for the poor essay continued to change... I don't know.
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