Septimus Prime
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Yeah, the Berlanti shows seem to start strong and then drop the ball hard. Gotham seems to be doing the opposite.
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Gotham S2 |OT| Dawn of Altruism - Mondays 8/7c
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I haven't watched this show, but I did saw last night episode for about 20 minutes, and I have a question, when I was seen this it felt that the style was close to that of Tim Burtons Batman (not talking design wise, but there was something to it) it this is just me, or this is intentional?
You are probably talking about the looks and feel of it, like using Smart Phones right next to black/white TVs. Or the cars and outfits of several characters. That's definitly intentional.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Very intentional. It's anachronistic about a lot of things. The Batman Animated series was the same way. And the costume design definitely makes me think of the Burton films. The Arkham striped jumpsuits for example. Some of the dutched camera angles too, make me think of the 60s Batman which used it constantly.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Jeez this is such a good show.
Azrael was amazing even if it isn't accurate to his comic book counterpart. The religious fanaticism is such a great addition to his character. His costume was great and the show managed to get some really spectacular shots of him particularly the end shot and him on the roof.
Barnes and Gordon both have some good viewpoints but they're both to stubborn to acknowledge that they can be wrong at times and need help.
It's good to know Barbara is still crazy and hasn't actually been cured so easily.
Nygma was great and it's nice to see his curiosity lead him into becoming more manipulative and finding out the secrets of Arkham.
The Four Leaf Clover song was used perfectly too in that Riddler montage.
Azrael was amazing even if it isn't accurate to his comic book counterpart. The religious fanaticism is such a great addition to his character. His costume was great and the show managed to get some really spectacular shots of him particularly the end shot and him on the roof.
Barnes and Gordon both have some good viewpoints but they're both to stubborn to acknowledge that they can be wrong at times and need help.
It's good to know Barbara is still crazy and hasn't actually been cured so easily.
Nygma was great and it's nice to see his curiosity lead him into becoming more manipulative and finding out the secrets of Arkham.
The Four Leaf Clover song was used perfectly too in that Riddler montage.
Septimus Prime
Member
I wonder if the entire point of these characters is to show Bruce the limitations of the vigilantism and the law. It's like Gordon, Barnes, and Galavan are his three inspirations.
I can imagine this is the time he starts placing his Riddler trophies all over the place.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
He's a fantastic addition as Hugo Strange. Him reading those pages of Wonderland and convincing Galavan that he was his lord really show just how good he is.
Today Forbes posted their power rankings of comic book shows.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertc...o-shows-currently-on-television/#4863bd5c3e48
9. Arrow
8. Supergirl
7. Legends of Tomorrow
6. Marvel's Agent Carter
5. Marvel's Daredevil
4. Gotham
3. Marvel's Jessica Jones
2. Marvel's Agents of Shield
1. The Flash
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertc...o-shows-currently-on-television/#4863bd5c3e48
9. Arrow
8. Supergirl
7. Legends of Tomorrow
6. Marvel's Agent Carter
5. Marvel's Daredevil
4. Gotham
3. Marvel's Jessica Jones
2. Marvel's Agents of Shield
1. The Flash
psynergylover
Member
Gotham and The Flash should trade places
I disagree with most of that list. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is too damn high, and Jessica Jones too. Arrow has had a rough period the last couple of seasons, but the first two alone places it above Supergirl. At least in my book.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
You're only as good as your current season.
Jason Frost
Member
Only one or two pages of replies each week now...Disappointing how few people here posted about it though.
What happenned?
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I can understand that. I only came back to the show on a whim at the very end of Season 1 because people said it was getting good. The Ogre arc brought got me to at least give it a chance in Season 2.
Most likely this. IN another forum where I am most of the hardcore comic book fans were hyped as heck for Gotham but just gradually lost interest during S1 and now can't even bring themself to watch S2, no matter how much I hype that up there. D:
Jason Frost
Member
I can understand all that for the first season, but last year (fall 2015, so it's season 2), we had much more replies every week after each episode.
And it was only 5 months ago...
It looks like the winter break (or The X-Files) affected the rate of replies in this thread.
brotkasten
Member
And another great episode. This show is really fantastic. I can't believe how good it is, really. I'm not a Batman fan, I know next to nothing about the lore (only from the first three Arkham games and the entries there), but this season has me hooked. I love the portrayal of the villains, it's great seeing Bruce growing, slowly but surely and I just adore the art direction. It's really, really good stuff.
DangerMouse
Member
Yeah, they're doing such a great job going all-in on their portrayals of the villains with just the right touches, and I really like watching Bruce's progress.
The art direction is stunning.
This. It's great.
Septimus Prime
Member
I'd also like to point out that Gotham did what is essentially the Lazarus Pit better than Arrow. They use the same brings-you-back-from-death-but-makes-you-insane concept but actually used it properly.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Yes multiple thing are straight Burton.
Penguin's parents.
The general tone and the weird Burton/TAS setting in time type thing as well.
BlackNMild2k1
Member
Sölf;202539655 said:
We need a gif of this final shot.
seriously. can someone make that happen please?
I disagree with almost all of this list, but what the heck is the requirement here?
Like it's not straight up superheroes or Agent Carter wouldn't be on... but it doesn't include Lucifer or iZombie?
liliththepale
Banned
Yeah I'm watching The OC right now and it's so bizarre.
First time?
liliththepale
Banned
Yeah. I was a little too young for it when it first aired, and I also thought I didn't need to watch it because people were saying it wasn't an accurate depiction of Orange County or Newport (where I live) so that upset me.
But now I can't get enough haha
I think McKenzie doesn't get enough credit for his acting on this show because he's not really a character actor. Nigma, Penguin, Jerome and some of the others are just so full of character that it's easy to miss the more subtle work being done, but I appreciate the balance a lot.
The OC is probably my top favorite teen drama show. Second being One Tree Hill.
Wish The OC had more seasons.
What season are you by the way?
liliththepale
Banned
I've been watching with my boyfriend so it's kind of slow going. I think we should finish the first season tomorrow.
You can PM me if you want to talk more about it. I don't want to keep derailing this wonderful thread
I've been watching with my boyfriend so it's kind of slow going. I think we should finish the first season tomorrow.
You can PM me if you want to talk more about it. I don't want to keep derailing this wonderful thread
Woah, well you're in for a ride.
And yeah, let's not derail this thread.
I also think there is a LTTP The OC thread somewhere.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Sölf;202539655 said:
I clipped a bit at the beginning and could've cut the size down by a third by cutting the end when it zooms closer up but I liked the cape part so I kept it.
Discotheque
Banned
good god is this show just consistently so fun. BD Wong's best role if you ask me. They let him just goof around with it and you can tell he's enjoying the hell out of playing Hugo Strange.
Azrael stuff was pretty much a quick little look at how batman would work in the show. Interesting how he's basically the lynchpin for bruce's batman inspiration now haha.
gotham season 2 is pretty much the standard for entertaining comic book tv imo. bruno heller > berlanti/kreisberg by a landslide.
Azrael stuff was pretty much a quick little look at how batman would work in the show. Interesting how he's basically the lynchpin for bruce's batman inspiration now haha.
gotham season 2 is pretty much the standard for entertaining comic book tv imo. bruno heller > berlanti/kreisberg by a landslide.
Nah. I think the OC is perfect with just 4 seasons. The 4th Season is just so good and perfect.
One Tree Hill is a show that should have ended with the 4th Season or at least the 5th Season.
I clipped a bit at the beginning and could've cut the size down by a third by cutting the end when it zooms closer up but I liked the cape part so I kept it.
I like how there's no real reason for him to be up there. Literally the only reason he climbed up there was for that dramatic shot.
If they did they should have ended when Lucas and Peyton left the show though.
Still, I enjoyed the later seasons. Some episodes were really tugging on the old heartstrings.
Especially one particular Dan episode.
They let all the villains have fun with the roles, especially the crazy ones, that's what makes so many of them so good.
RellyRell28
Banned
Daredevil should be ahead of JJ. I mean JJ was better than s1 Daredevil but season 2 was on another level. LoT should be 9 and Arrow should be higher as well. JJ should only move down to 4th and Gotham to 5th.
How the hell is Agents of Shield not number 9? Ahead of Arrow or even Supergirl? Yeah right. Daredevil should be number 1 or 2 though.
I know that Dan episode. Was pretty great. I wasnt able to finish the whole show though because it just dragged on. When Lucas and Peyton left, it should have definitely ended.
If they did they should have ended when Lucas and Peyton left the show though.
Still, I enjoyed the later seasons. Some episodes were really tugging on the old heartstrings.
Especially one particular Dan episode.
I know that Dan episode. Was pretty great. I wasnt able to finish the whole show though because it just dragged on. When Lucas and Peyton left, it should have definitely ended.
Yeah, I liked Nygma the best despite it being Azraels episode and Azrael being pretty good in it. I'm glad Nygmas becoming a potential threat so soon. I'm going to predict that he takes over the villains after Strange gets taken down.
Calm waterfall
Banned
Amazing episode. So now i would guess that Azreal will get his memories back.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Daredevil S2 was on another level from S1 in the sense that it fell of a damn cliff, I guess. No way I'd rank Daredevil's average above JJ's. Only really great parts of DD S2 were the ones with
Fisk
I'd call this fair if we're taking averages of all available seasons, though Arrow should be a little higher and AoS should be hanging out around #5. Gotham should be an easy lock for #1 or #2, above Flash but maybe below JJ.
Actually I guess I wouldn't call it fair at all, lol.
lilith convinced me to check back into this show a bit ago since i was complaining about the lack of good live action Riddlers. I skipped the rest of last season(might go back to that eventually) but loved every minute of this season. The episode where Nygma set up that series of riddles to get Gordon arrested was great and I can't wait to see what else they'll do with the character.
Some scenes like the magician one with jerome and the 20 or so penguins trying to kill Galavan remind me a lot more of Batman TAS than anything and of course the anachronistic styles and technology helps that a lot. It perfectly rides the line between campy and serious and creepy and just feels different from everything else out there.
probably my favorite of the superhero shows at this point. glad its been renewed
I haven't watched the most recent episode tho so I'll be getting to it as soon as I get home
Some scenes like the magician one with jerome and the 20 or so penguins trying to kill Galavan remind me a lot more of Batman TAS than anything and of course the anachronistic styles and technology helps that a lot. It perfectly rides the line between campy and serious and creepy and just feels different from everything else out there.
probably my favorite of the superhero shows at this point. glad its been renewed
I haven't watched the most recent episode tho so I'll be getting to it as soon as I get home