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[Oppoi]

Monaco has amazing tax rates (read as pay no taxes on money made outside the state).
Its actually a pretty beautiful place, the weather is great, the people are generally really nice, and the crime rate is nonexistent.



Questions for Sony.

It was a callback to Larry Hryb's quote regarding the Xbox One always online problem with rural areas. He said something just like that.

 

[64bitmodels]

If they're making it clear PSN's required before launch then no problems.

The Helldivers 2 situation was bad because they grabbed everyone's money and then forced the requirement on everyone after all was said and done even while people already knew that the game could work without PSN.

The only complaint I have here is.... Why God of War specifically? That game doesn't even have an online mode? And is this from any official source?

 

[KyoZz]

First you said...

"It's not, that's why you don't heard of Ubi, or EA etc... needing an account on Steam."

You then said...

"No you don't. Of course you will get a few people complaining but absolutely not at the same level as for Helldivers II."

I was responding to "Why is making an account such a big deal?"
My response: it's not (a big deal).

I did NOT say you don't need an EA or Ubi account, I said you don't see many complain as opposed to Helldivers II (and I explained why).

Now you are saying you want a receipt for(as you put it) so many people complaining.

LOL

I think we misunderstood each other here. I though you were saying "you do heard PC players complaining" here.
Me: that's why you don't heard of Ubi, or EA etc... needing an account on Steam
You: yes you do (heard of them, I thought)

So, did I just score?

I originally quoted you saying it wasn't required and that statement is wrong.

All of the other stuff you are talking to yourself about.

Lol indeed. It's me, the non English speaker who needs to explain this. If you don't get the difference between HEARD and NEED, it's on you.
Here is a totally random example:

1) That's why you don't heard of Ubi, or EA etc... needing an account on Steam
2) That's why you don't NEED an Ubi, or EA etc... account on Steam

See the difference? Please tell me you see it. Why is it so hard to read for some people.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

The only complaint I have here is.... Why God of War specifically? That game doesn't even have an online mode? And is this from any official source?

A.) Gotta pump those MAU numbers up.
B.) If Sony decides to make a PC Store, the people who bought it already have accounts.

 

[Larxia]

Does that mean it's always online then?

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

I was responding to "Why is making an account such a big deal?"
My response: it's not (a big deal).

I did NOT say you don't need an EA or Ubi account, I said you don't see many complain as opposed to Helldivers II (and I explained why).


I think we misunderstood each other here. I though you were saying "you do heard PC players complaining" here.
Me: that's why you don't heard of Ubi, or EA etc... needing an account on Steam
You: yes you do (heard of them, I thought)

So, did I just score?

Lol indeed. It's me, the non English speaker who needs to explain this. If you don't get the difference between HEARD and NEED, it's on you.
Here is a totally random example:

1) That's why you don't heard of Ubi, or EA etc... needing an account on Steam
2) That's why you don't NEED an Ubi, or EA etc... account on Steam

See the difference? Please tell me you see it. Why is it so hard to read for some people.

I see now m8.
Misunderstanding

 

[MikeM]

Me as a PC guy with over 3500 trophies

 

[KyoZz]

I see now m8.
Misunderstanding

 

[StereoVsn]

That shit is unnecessary, reduces Sony’s market for the game and it’s just fucking annoying.

I hate when companies make that shit mandatory. At least they could do something useful with it like cross-save or whatnot. This is pointless.

 

[Topher]

That shit is unnecessary, reduces Sony’s market for the game and it’s just fucking annoying.

I hate when companies make that shit mandatory. At least they could do something useful with it like cross-save or whatnot. This is pointless.

I was just scrolling through the game features and there is just no reason for it. I'm wondering if this is a mistake

 

[SiahWester]

I really don't think it's a big deal if theyre not gonna lock you out of your games like Rockstar if you lose your damn email password

 

[CrustyBritches]

Dirty Sony

 

[StereoVsn]

I was just scrolling through the game features and there is just no reason for it. I'm wondering if this is a mistake

I think Sony wants their engagement figures or something equally dumb.

I can’t see how it’s worth losing a decent amount of potential customers, but I am sure there is some equally stupid reason behind it.

 

[Portugeezer]

I think it’s fine as long as they tell you from the get go so that you know you can just not buy it
The Helldivers outrage was because they changed it after people already purchased.

 

[cash_longfellow]

But... why? It's a single-player game.

Same reason you have to have a Steam account to play a single player game on Steam

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Ermmmm theyve taken the "right" to do business with them away from consumers.
If you cant buy the game in region xyz you dont have a choice, the decision isnt in your hands.
All they really need to do is not geotag PSN IDs, theres no reason to, if the person has paid for your game what do you care, theyve got the money and whatever other information they want to gather.




Ubisoft, EA, Xbox, Rockstar dont restrict you from purchasing the game if you live in regions they dont officially support.
So its a very different story.

^This is of course assuming the PSN requirement is actually true.
Ghost of Tsushima was originally announced as requiring PSN, but then it was clarified that PSN was only required for the MP......the singleplayer doesnt require PSN.

Let's eat hamburger and chesse

 

[cash_longfellow]

Why would you want to live in any of those countries?

Oh, you a special kind of idiot, aren’t you? Go away

 

[cash_longfellow]

Sonys console business is dead in the water anyways they may just as well try stupid shit like this out of pure desperation.

Based on your other posts…In before perma-ban. Any one taking bets?

 

[EverydayBeast]

I mean pc and ps is a duo, so you have to create an account and sign? This is what big companies do.

 

[Quasicat]

That means steam deck is out. It still is greyed out on my copy of Ghost of Tsushima.

 

[sachos]

Are we sure they are not totally misinterpreting that message? "Account for PSN is required" it does not say it needs the account to play the single player game. Im pretty sure this just means you need an account to use the PSN Overlay, same as their other games, we already knew that.

EDIT: Ok there actually is a note on the Steam page saying "PlayStation Network Account required, subject to the PlayStation Terms of Services and User Agreement http://www.playstationnetwork.com/terms-of-service" Fuck this shit.

 

[Sleepwalker]

Ermmmm theyve taken the "right" to do business with them away from consumers.
If you cant buy the game in region xyz you dont have a choice, the decision isnt in your hands.
All they really need to do is not geotag PSN IDs, theres no reason to, if the person has paid for your game what do you care, theyve got the money and whatever other information they want to gather.

The decision regarding their product is up to Sony though. The choice we have as players to boycott this applies only to those located where the game is available.

Of course there are other means for people in unsupported regions to play their single players games and I wouldn't blame them for it.

 

[Kabelly]

Unless it's multiplayer I don't understand why they're adding this requirement. All their releases so far have been fine without it. I forgot Ghost of Tshushima even has the requirement because I haven't tried the online yet.

It should continue to be an option if you want to sync your trophies and stuff, not a requirement for the privilage to play.

 

[dcx4610]

Not surprising. I'm kinda shocked it didn't happen sooner or Sony locking all their games behind a Sony storefront.

 

[Celcius]

Eh, doesn't bother me since I already have had a PlayStation account for many years.

 

[Kssio_Aug]

Why would you want to live in any of those countries?

 

[captainpat]

Man, they are obsessed with getting people in their ecosystem.

 

[NeverYouMind]

Yeah a lot of people bitched about those things too when they first started.

Spoiler

Then got the fuck over it and moved on with their lives.

I got over it by not purchasing their products. Now I have more to spend on better games without that nonsense.

 

[Fahdis]

More fake outrage coming soon

What a shit show. Some of us are dual nationals.

 

[MarkMe2525]

Do we still need dedicated threads for this? We lost... the sooner you accept, the sooner you can stop caring and give up hope.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

wasn't going to buy it anyways.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Sonys console business is dead in the water anyways they may just as well try stupid shit like this out of pure desperation.

 

[bitbydeath]

Of course there are other means for people in unsupported regions

Just picking another region gets around it.
Lots of people have multiple region accounts already.

 

[Puscifer]

Why would you want to live in any of those countries?

Yeah crazy how random genetic chance plays out, huh?

 

[Killjoy-NL]

All that drama recently and Sony doesn't give a fuck, because it was petty af. Lol

 

[pasterpl]

So not available to buy in 100s of countries on Steam. Didn’t Sony learned anything?

 

[Crayon]

That's a bold strategy cotton.

 

[Hero_Select]

If they're making it clear PSN's required before launch then no problems.

The Helldivers 2 situation was bad because they grabbed everyone's money and then forced the requirement on everyone after all was said and done even while people already knew that the game could work without PSN.

The only complaint I have here is.... Why God of War specifically? That game doesn't even have an online mode? And is this from any official source?

Probably as a way towards it counting for their MAU I imagine

 

[Sleepwalker]

Just picking another region gets around it.
Lots of people have multiple region accounts already.

I know. I have a bunch of them.

Changing your steam region is a bit more tricky tho.

 

[drotahorror]

Womp womp

I've seen someone say womp womp 3x today. Am I missing a meme or some shit?

 

[Killjoy-NL]

If its actually required then that means alot of regions where PSN isnt officially supported wont be able to purchase the game......I dont think thats fake outrage.

Like you ever cared about gaming in those countries.

 

[Three]

ok, you first?

Afaik, those companies require extra logins: Rockstar, Sony, Ubisoft, EA, maybe Bethesda? And that's it?
If to you, those mean "all the other big third party games" then man, you need to broaden your horizons.

So the big third parties? Activision Blizzard too. What other 'big third party' do you know?

 

[Futaleufu]

It's only bad when EA or Ubisoft does it

 

[Shtef]

Even if the psn account is not required for singleplayer, god of war and ghost of tsushima are not available in my region. Sony doesnt want my money and i will gladly not give them.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Like you ever cared about gaming in those countries.

For many years many games and services weren't available in certain countries.

It's a problem now because PlayStation.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Even if the psn account is not required for singleplayer, god of war and ghost of tsushima are not available in my region. Sony doesnt want my money and i will gladly not give them.

Pretty sure Playstation is aware of that.

But if they make Billions in revenue, that $1M they miss out on from all those countries combined probably isn't a big deal.

 

[ahtlas7]

I can understand the necessity

.

 

[pasterpl]

Pretty sure Playstation is aware of that.

But if they make Billions in revenue, that $1M they miss out on from all those countries combined probably isn't a big deal.

Do you sincerely believe that any corporation is happy leaving money on the table?

 

[VinnyMac]

Who cares seriously

 

[DenchDeckard]

I thought pc players were buying ps5s to play Sony sequels?