Let's wait for the sales figures.HK-47 said:Turn 10 must be feeling smug right now.
Let's wait for the sales figures.HK-47 said:Turn 10 must be feeling smug right now.
/bails outHK-47 said:Turn 10 must be feeling smug right now.
i_am_ben said:this thread is behaving far too rational at the moment.
HK-47 said:Turn 10 must be feeling smug right now.
What I'm saying is that they've always built a game with general appeal mostly through graphical fidelity (and a lot of PR backing, don't forget) around a dedicated sim core. That is their legacy, that is their trademark. And they're sticking to it, so that's what one should expect.Dreams-Visions said:eeeeeeh I dunno about that.
I don't think there were 14 million hardcore GT3 players out there. I think GT has a lot of casual appeal. It's just that it's more than deep enough for the dedicated to really enjoy.
GT wins, no contest there. regardless of score.expy said:Let's wait for the sales figures.
They have to fix the car class thing. As I understand it, anyone can bring any car?Gen X said:I'm really disappointed to hear about the multiplayer side of things (No car classes online, lack of time trial leaderboards) but I just know that this game will handle like a dream with the G27.
The Hug Dog said:Just fully read through Eurogamers review. Fantastic, absolutely sums up how I feel about the game. The closing paragraph is great.
mr stroke said:not at all
as I said in my post, I am a CAUSAL racing fan. As someone that only has time for one racer this holiday it will be the better game. Yes NFS and GT are different animals but Ill take what ever is better. So far the low scores and bad online impressions are a turn off. I guess its my fault for expecting the second coming of Christ with this game
Let's not...seriously, who amongst us are NOT expecting this game to sell a bajillion copies?? :lolexpy said:Let's wait for the sales figures.
Maybe try it out for yourself in a shop and see how you like it. Usually works for me!mr stroke said:as I said in my post, I am a CAUSAL racing fan. As someone that only has time for one racer this holiday it will be the better game. Yes NFS and GT are different animals but Ill take what ever is better. So far the low scores and bad online impressions are a turn off. I guess its my fault for expecting the second coming of Christ with this game
wmat said:Haha you bet your ass. And not without reason, they really hit the spot when FM3 came out. No question about it.
Seems like GT5 is having a harder time landing overall, but for the hardcore simmers, which essentially are the people PD are talking to, this game should be heaven.
They say it's a 10/10 car simulator, but only a 5/10 game. So 8.5 seems even generous.Lafiel said:Surprised by the IGN review. I'd have expected them to give it a 9.5 / 10. (considering they OVERRATE every high profile game release). Heck they say in the review that the gameplay is 10/10 but interface issues hold it back?
TruePrime said:Why because some people think there game is better then GT5?
We didn't need reviewes to come out to tell us some would prefer Forza to GT5, same goes in reverse.
If you mean Metacritic or Gamerankings then eh really they come across more douchy if they try to use that shit so I don't really care.
When Gran Turismo 5 is good, it's fantastic. It shines like a carefully polished diamond with fantastic graphics and balanced car physics. When Gran Turismo 5 is bad, it's really bad. Sloppy graphics, stuttering frame rate, hopelessly repetitive and a weak presentation. It doesn't take long before it becomes obvious that the development of Polyphony's fifth game in the series hasn't only been expensive, it's also been problematic. The game feels inconsistent, and the general experience fragmented - either way, it's high quality racing as long as you stay away from the worst pitfalls.
Gran Turismo 5's presentation is more or less worthless. Several different graphical styles are mixed into a huge mess of bad typography and badly designed menus. You have to jump around through the menu system like a madman during the career mode and everything is covered in bad elevator jazz. The menus are meant to mimic some form of exclusive computer program, but it only manages to annoy. Example: the fact that you have to click nine times to pick out and test-drive the cars you win in the game's various races is one of the oddest design choices this year.
I don't believe the weather effects comment, we've seen amazing videos of that.The graphical quality in general suffers from a severe case of multiple personality disorder. The real-time rendered reruns are incredibly well made, while some textures looks like something from the PlayStation 2 era. The weather effects never look very realistic, and often make the game stutter. The Premium cars are incredibly well modeled, covered in incredibly high resolution textures and lit with beautiful real-time light. The Standard-selection looks terribly low budget in comparison.
I wouldn't consider myself a hardcore simmer, I like arcade racers. But playing GT5 with a wheel is an outstanding experience, close to handling perfection. It blurs the line between sim and arcade.wmat said:for the hardcore simmers, which essentially are the people PD are talking to, this game should be heaven.
.NHale said:I liked the review because he didn't shy away from the obvious flaws of the game but unlike others he seems to know what really matters about a racing game...which is the racing...
Rainier said:This was a Day 1 purchase for me, but I think I might rent it first to see how much grinding I have to do. I want to be able to pop in the disk, buy my first car, and then after pimping the rims and upgrading my brake package, check out my clever AI opponents through the glorious in-dash view as I see what kind of damage I can do to the other cars...
Seriously though, I'm coming to the conclusion that this game probably isn't for me. Will still check out the game though.
actually, people have been mentioning issues with the weather.TheOddOne said:Gamereactor review really goes in on it.
I don't believe the weather effects comment, we've seen amazing videos of that.
Dreams-Visions said:well...it's the only measuring stick used to determine what games may be better than others. and it's kinda more than a handful. Almost all of the biggies have spoken.
Really? Thats suprising because I thought it looked rock solid.Dreams-Visions said:actually, people have been mentioning issues with the weather.
Not really. Maybe on GAF and other communities we'll discuss this. But GT5 has been on the news,tv, radio all this week. It's a much bigger IP and as we can see, generates much more talk than any other racer/sim.okenny said:You gotta imagine that this is the very definition of stealing someone's thunder. I'd imagine these scores would be telling a different story in a world where FM3 didn't come out. GT5 I believe is a victim of it's own hype. Trying to ride hype is like surfing a tsunami; you'll pay if you fuck it up.
I agree somewhat with the menu UI design since I'm a graphic design/illustration nut myself but that comment about the weather effects sounds batshit insane. =/TheOddOne said:Gamereactor review really goes in on it.
I don't believe the weather effects comment, we've seen amazing videos of that.
Alright, that's the shit I was talking about. HOW CAN YOU FUCK THAT UP! Goddammit.Gran Turismo 5's presentation is more or less worthless. Several different graphical styles are mixed into a huge mess of bad typography and badly designed menus. You have to jump around through the menu system like a madman during the career mode and everything is covered in bad elevator jazz. The menus are meant to mimic some form of exclusive computer program, but it only manages to annoy. Example: the fact that you have to click nine times to pick out and test-drive the cars you win in the game's various races is one of the oddest design choices this year.
sure. but what game are you alluding to that didn't sell well?gundamkyoukai said:Good scores are good to have but don't mean anything if your game don't sell good.
DiscoJer said:Wait, Jeff Gordon is in the game?
What's the point of getting the Nascar license when you get Jeff Gordon and basically alienate 70% of the people who care about Nascar in the first place.
I mean, geeze, people at races cheer when he crashes. And boo when he wins.
No wonder the reviews in Europe are higher...they don't know who he is.
vanty said:They say it's a 10/10 car simulator, but only a 5/10 game. So 8.5 seems even generous.
fernoca said:Don't know if it was because of the "last minute reviews", but for a game with so many options and things to do, most of the reviews are either too general, too broad or too short.
yea, I've seen some comments. but you know how it goes...people don't always like to talk about the flaws they see right after they dropped $60-$130 AND after waiting 6 years for this day. but a few people have made mention of some weather-related issues.TheOddOne said:Really? Thats suprising because I thought it looked rock solid.
Waiting for a review that will go lowerThe Praiseworthy said:I'm very very shocked to see GT5 getting 8s... but whatever, it's still going to be an amazing ride for many in the upcoming years![]()
No, that's the 'happy' pre-review, like this 'sad' pre-review:Loudninja said:
How many hours would you say it takes for an average driver to unlock damage?Ashes1396 said:somebody at ign didn't level up enough for the damage to kick in.... :lol
Have we seen Jimmy Johnson yet? (I mean decked out in his alpinestars suit, helmet, etc)SolidSnakex said:Who are they supposed to get? Dale Jr?They have him in one of the promo videos for it. But the dude can't win shit, so he shouldn't be giving you instructions on how to become a better driver.
Dreams-Visions said:sure. but what game are you alluding to that didn't sell well?
No review yet. That's their preview of the review.Loudninja said:
With our Gran Turismo 5 review due to hit Thursday, we thought wed give the lowdown on what we think so far.
Yeah messed that one up.Rainier said:No, that's the 'happy' pre-review, like this 'sad' pre-review:
http://www.nowgamer.com/features/1088/gran-turismo-5-review-10-reasons-to-be-sad
danhsugeow1upreview.jpegoffshore said:Eurogamer's review is strange. He seems to spend two pages pointing out the glaring problems, but then ends up giving it a nine. It reads like a six.
:lolTeknopathetic said:"for the hardcore simmers, which essentially are the people PD are talking to, this game should be heaven."
The hardcore simmers will be playing iRacing or participating in rFactor/netKar/Nascar2003, etc. etc. mod leagues. For the bumper car pokemon fans, which are the people PD are actually talking to, this game should be heaven.
The fuck is this supposed to mean? :lolvanty said:They say it's a 10/10 car simulator, but only a 5/10 game. So 8.5 seems even generous.