Metalmurphy
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This one is gonna piss alot of people off but, you can't race online on the DLC tracks anymore if you haven't bought them.
Free ride is over.
Free ride is over.
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Gran Turismo 5 Spec II |OT| - We Love DLC!
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Oh damn that is so much fail.
But was it supposed to be like this in the first place or was it glitch? I cannot remember them advertising it as free for everyone online.
for the new page
my test nsx rm at autumn ring :
racing soft:
best lap 1.17.
7 laps tyres wear is about 50% your lap times really start to collapse
10 laps tyres wear is getting critical lap time 1.21 (you must go to pit now or earlier)
lifetime 13 maybe 15 laps (not sure) with really slow laptime
racing hard :
best lap 1.19
10 laps lap time 1.21
13 laps tyres wear is about 50% your lap times really start to collapse
18 laps tyres wear is getting critical
lifetime 21 laps at least
so with 20 laps you can stay on the track throughout the entire race with racing hard
pit stop (1 or 2) necessary with soft
my test nsx rm at autumn ring :
racing soft:
best lap 1.17.
7 laps tyres wear is about 50% your lap times really start to collapse
10 laps tyres wear is getting critical lap time 1.21 (you must go to pit now or earlier)
lifetime 13 maybe 15 laps (not sure) with really slow laptime
racing hard :
best lap 1.19
10 laps lap time 1.21
13 laps tyres wear is about 50% your lap times really start to collapse
18 laps tyres wear is getting critical
lifetime 21 laps at least
so with 20 laps you can stay on the track throughout the entire race with racing hard
pit stop (1 or 2) necessary with soft
R_thanatos
Member
that's some pretty nice update overall ( minus the seasonnal events )
it's still possible to play if the host own the track ?
CouchMaster
Member
Its coming with the PSN store update tomorrow (or today based on your local time), there's an FAQ on GT site regarding this..
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/support/d6150.html
It only applies for purchasing, not actually playing it. Thats always been the way with all PS3 games and dlcs.
Metalmurphy
Member
That was already how it worked before, only people with the DLC could host it. Now people without the DLC can't join the track.
Well, that one is not nice.
in a lounge like nrl lounge if i'm the host, I load spa, it's possible for people without dlc to join the track ?
Metalmurphy
Member
That was the only way that people without DLC could race in Spa already. And no, you can't do that anymore.
Yet, expected.
The Christmas card encapsulates Gran Turismo. Attention to detail, care, absolute class and that feeling of belonging to something very special indeed.
Kaz, have I told you how much I love you lately?
I've not had too much time to explore the update yet but I'm loving the fully customisable HUD. So sweet. Bye bye driver list!
Audioboxer
Member
How much more do you guys think Kaz & PD can tweak/change up the GT5 engine? Since launch they've done quite a lot to change the core game, I'm wondering how much room there is left for overhauling it?
Secondly a question about AI, has anyone ever seen pole position AI slip up or make any "human like" mistakes to lose a lead?
Secondly a question about AI, has anyone ever seen pole position AI slip up or make any "human like" mistakes to lose a lead?
Great little update! The sound has really been improved drastically! I never had any real issues previously but the difference here is pretty substantial. The definition is really crisp especially on a 5.1 system. You can really differentiate the sounds and pinpoint exactly which speaker is playing what sound. Tire skid sounds are reallly panned beautifully. Replays also benefit hugley from the sound tweaks! All the other GUI tweaks are again all very helpful in the bigger scheme of things. To be honest, i don't think theres THAT much left that they can apply a simple fix. Maybe a new GT related thread with peoples main GUI gripes could be good start, and who knows, the right eyes might one day stumble across! For me going forward in terms of additional content, i'd like more tracks (would still like some of the current courses spruced up to be near the quality of Spa), cars of course, but a nice big A-Spec update with all new events would be sweet, incorporating any DLC tracks also (might make a few peeps still on the fence flash their cash). But this time with a more balanced track selection as i think there were many tracks that were just too underused.
Sorc3r3r
Member
Absolutely, this is how you build a loyal community, strenghten your leadership position and, at the same time, give to other SHs an exemple on how to...
PD is acting like a true leader in the whole biz.
See above ^^, i loved the christmas card too.
Audίoboxer;33612982 said:
I think they have very little space left, instead the shadows would have been fixed long time ago.
For the second question no, i've never seen the pole A.I. doing some mistake under pressure, this for the A-spec.
In the very low level B-spec AI instead, yes,happened.
What i hope now is an online revolution, with clan/club support, official race tournament, fast online race with matchmaking, filter based on A-spec level or/and a valutation system bound to every player to divide destruction derby players from the ones that are fair.
Do that PD and i can stay on your GT5 till....GT6.
evil_as_skeletor
Member
Anyone else feel as if the display has slowed down a little? Like in terms of FPS? It might just be me but it doesn't look like 60(ish) and smooth as the last time I played it...
Also tried out the filters 'glitch' pretty cool and also pretty annoying at the same time.
Also, found "AI car temperament" in arcade settings. New?
Have they forced ON rolling starts for arcade races now too? That sucks if true.
Also tried out the filters 'glitch' pretty cool and also pretty annoying at the same time.
Also, found "AI car temperament" in arcade settings. New?
Have they forced ON rolling starts for arcade races now too? That sucks if true.
brotkasten
Member
Not nice and it splits the online community, but kinda fair, I guess? "Why would I buy Spa, when I can find many hosted races with the track? Let the other idiots buy it."
We've come a long, long way with bitching and moaning and "trolling" (Hi MM!), but no one in their right mind would disagree.
Not from what i've seen.
it's always been like that ;(
Audioboxer
Member
I was under the impression the smoke/shadows are more of a PS3 hardware restriction in how it handles alpha channels is it? If so, even with more memory it might not be fixable as such?
With future updates I was thinking along the lines of does anyone think we'll get new game modes/bikes or something fairly drastic? Or bug fixes and smaller community requests from here on out?
Bolded part makes me happy! Can't wait to try the new features out tomorrow. Car pack releases tonight in the EU right?
Metalmurphy
Member
Probably tomorrow, with the Store update (usually 4:00pm GMT)
Maybe tonight in US, but I'm not sure. GT website says December 21st pretty much everywhere
It's a shame the Pace Car lights don't react with the environment though. Still, was pretty cool cruising round the Ring with lights flashing this morning ^^
So fucking excited though, can't wait to race against friends tonight with the new changes. Have I mentioned how new chase cam is fucking awesome?
The suggested gear is the flashing red light, that's what you can turn on/off.
So fucking excited though, can't wait to race against friends tonight with the new changes. Have I mentioned how new chase cam is fucking awesome?
gogogow said:Turning the "suggested gear" display HUD on/off doesn't do anythingIsn't that the HUD on the bottom right of the screen? It just stays there.
The suggested gear is the flashing red light, that's what you can turn on/off.
There's like 7 HUDS on the bottom of the screen. PD should allow us to turn each of them on/off. In the end I can only turn off the name list. The four HUDs in the bottom left corner needs to stay because of the tyre indication, which I need, since i'm doing the 9 Hour Tsukuba Endurance race. I'm driving in cockpit view I really don't need a lot them HUDs
Still, it's a good start. Baby steps I guess.
The pace car looks really nice!
Any idea why did the car become transparent in the exterior car view after passing through the smoke cloud?
Yes, what Brokasten said below.
And one more time, thank you for using my B-Spec drivers, you good sir have made me millions with 200% bonus
Probably, I agree. This level of improvement - and official announcement how everything to this point is only a start - is really a role model. Although many will say how it was necessary - because of the issues game had in start - it just shows how important and serious PD is in what they do.
Audίoboxer;33612982 said:
I can list few things that come to my mind instantly, neither asking for big compromises (at least I think not): gearbox sounds, real-time toggle of HUD, Cape Ring tracks in Reverse versions, official matchmaking races (as in Prologue), Paint Shop facility, point-to-point Course Maker courses with auto-generating for Private Lobbies (would be blast in Free Run mode and chasing other's times with other players watching in Spectator mode), Team Options for Private Lobbies (2 players can exchange on drivers seat during pit-stop - since host-migration is non-issue in GT5, this one would probably work as pie)...
Best thing about the new sound is relocation of the source-sound for the engine and other cars. Now you have engine roaring from the back for MR/RR models, exact tire-noise from the surround channels and perfect recreation of sound changing direction and sway as other cars are travelling in front/behind you.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Audίoboxer;33613689 said:
can't be as other ps3 racing games have higher quality smoke and shadows.
i haven't been able to play gt5 for ages since my pedal unit packed up. the wheel is completely dead when it's plugged in and alive when not. logitech wouldn't even replace it - the fucking grotty cunts, the g25 was the last thing i'll ever buy from them.
in fanatec i'll trust
Risk Breaker
Member
Beautiful update. HDR is back, much better sound, fixed tyres, new little details, new chase cam... :_)
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
is the new chase cam like gt psp?
I like this update and the continuous support PD gives to GT5 one year after release... though I would NEVER see this as the best support ever ! Come on guys.
Most of the updates are fixing stuff that were broken/incomplete. One year after, we get something that looks like what it should have been from the start.
There are still so many things that are wrong with the UI, It kills me to not see them being corrected.
And the whole online experience is far from perfect...not even excellent. Absolutly not user friendly. Look at Autolog to see what a powerful online integration is.
Anyway: i still think that these continuous updates made the game way better...
The DLC cars are a joke though... serioulsy.
Most of the updates are fixing stuff that were broken/incomplete. One year after, we get something that looks like what it should have been from the start.
There are still so many things that are wrong with the UI, It kills me to not see them being corrected.
And the whole online experience is far from perfect...not even excellent. Absolutly not user friendly. Look at Autolog to see what a powerful online integration is.
Anyway: i still think that these continuous updates made the game way better...
The DLC cars are a joke though... serioulsy.
Lol. How to kill a post with one typo !
wouldn't a simple re-arrangements of the icons would make it a lot better already? Personally I don't have too much problem with it, but I understand the UI is a bit impractical with lots of unnecessary steps being made by the user just to get to a certain icon.
How many of the 4 new cars are actually not "new" cars?
That's been there man
Metalmurphy
Member
Well, they're all "new" but there's old models of the GTR and Mini already.
Also, don't mind Solal, check his post history and you'll understand.
I find that hard to believe oO They replaced my G25 for a G27 for free, and it was out of warranty already. Were you you're usual charming self when talking to them? lol
Also the aliasing on the smoke IS a problem with the PS3 hardware, many games have the same issue. Other games just do smoke differently, which is not necessarily better.
I see, thanks. But the new GTR and Mini's polygonal model is different then the old ones on disc? I wonder if the new Mini Cooper got it's polygonal edges smoothed out. It was pretty obvious PD kinda rushed that model.
I agree, the smoke in GT5 is totally insane. How much there is and sticks for a very long time compared to like....uh....all the console racing games out there, no idea about some of the PC simulators though.
Metalmurphy
Member
Yes, the models are different.
cutmeamango
Banned
Just the fact that when you finish a seasonal it doesn't kick you back to the home screen already makes me ultra happy.
I don't know if I'll bite the DLC tomorrow though. I just want the new Golf from the pack.
I don't know if I'll bite the DLC tomorrow though. I just want the new Golf from the pack.
Just the fact that when you finish a seasonal it doesn't kick you back to the home screen already makes me ultra happy.
I don't know if I'll bite the DLC tomorrow though. I just want the new Golf from the pack.
Really? Thank god for that update. I really hate it how i'm kicked out of the Seasonal Event menu. Still I can't experience it myself, have been doing an endurance race for days....
GTP_Daverytimes
Member
*sigh*
I agree, the rain on the windows doesn't exactly look great, but it's a nice start, they can always improve it in the next GT. PD pretty much put in everything that was missing in the previous iterations.
- damage - in GT6, glass damage
- burning rubber
- sparks - in GT6, more sparks, like in burnout
- rain/snow - in GT6, like F1, Dirt on window and on all tracks
- day/night cycle - in GT6, on all tracks
- > 6 cars
- online
Sure it's not perfect, but I think GT5 is a really nice "blueprint" for future GT's.