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Gran Turismo 5 Super GT League Season 2 - Vorsicht statt nachsicht
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seattle6418 said:
Don't worry about it, it's all a part of racing. There was no need to let me pass, we were racing and of course no one wants to give places away. It worked out well in the end and it made the race more exciting for me
Actually my last stint was only 12 laps, the one before that was 17 laps
Thanks guys !
Most of the time, they do look awful compared to the Premium. It's a matter of finding the right angle for the right car. For example the GT-One and the Pesca look terrible from both sides but the front looks pretty good.
Don't know what happened but my replay of the M3 race ended up being in daylight so no night shots... :-/
That last shot really highlights how far from the rest of the pack the two leader were !
Same as before, click to get the 1080p and there's more here.
Juicy Bob said:
Most of the time, they do look awful compared to the Premium. It's a matter of finding the right angle for the right car. For example the GT-One and the Pesca look terrible from both sides but the front looks pretty good.
Don't know what happened but my replay of the M3 race ended up being in daylight so no night shots... :-/
That last shot really highlights how far from the rest of the pack the two leader were !
Same as before, click to get the 1080p and there's more here.
My race report:
For me it was an awesome race - the speed of the cars, the sounds, everything. I did a pretty good start and once the leaders took themselves out I found my self in 4th. A couple of laps later I was in second, chasing Dibbz. It was an interesting chase, with the gap decreasing for each lap. I was on his tail on lap 9, but just as I was going to challenge him my wheel came off from the desk... During my struggle to reattach the wheel and still driving the car I dropped down to 4th again, losing perhaps 10-15 seconds. Later in the race i found myself chasing Dibbz again, this time for the last spot on the podium. I was right on his tail and perhaps got a bit too excited as I pushed down too hard on the throttle, car snapped and I hit the barrier. This was just after the pit entrance, so I had to do one lap with a busted right front tyre. Niks and Juicy Bob caught up to me and as my car was all over the place during braking, Niks hit me from behind - my only incident involving another car during the whole race. Had to pit again on lap 33 and by then it was too late to start the chase for Dibbz again.
Next week we will, despite my misgivings (and the Nordschleife race only increased my misgivings) do a race with light damage. As this will make for a much less dynamic race, it makes no sense to me to do a long race. Instead I suggest we do two races back to back for a total race time of 60 minutes.
My idea is to do a 30 min race on Monaco, then another 30 min race, this time on Eiger. Second race we use reverse grid order from the previous race result.
How does this sound? I'll look through the cars but it will be a one-make race(s) in one (or two) premium, low powered car on Sports Medium I think.
For me it was an awesome race - the speed of the cars, the sounds, everything. I did a pretty good start and once the leaders took themselves out I found my self in 4th. A couple of laps later I was in second, chasing Dibbz. It was an interesting chase, with the gap decreasing for each lap. I was on his tail on lap 9, but just as I was going to challenge him my wheel came off from the desk... During my struggle to reattach the wheel and still driving the car I dropped down to 4th again, losing perhaps 10-15 seconds. Later in the race i found myself chasing Dibbz again, this time for the last spot on the podium. I was right on his tail and perhaps got a bit too excited as I pushed down too hard on the throttle, car snapped and I hit the barrier. This was just after the pit entrance, so I had to do one lap with a busted right front tyre. Niks and Juicy Bob caught up to me and as my car was all over the place during braking, Niks hit me from behind - my only incident involving another car during the whole race. Had to pit again on lap 33 and by then it was too late to start the chase for Dibbz again.
Next week we will, despite my misgivings (and the Nordschleife race only increased my misgivings) do a race with light damage. As this will make for a much less dynamic race, it makes no sense to me to do a long race. Instead I suggest we do two races back to back for a total race time of 60 minutes.
My idea is to do a 30 min race on Monaco, then another 30 min race, this time on Eiger. Second race we use reverse grid order from the previous race result.
How does this sound? I'll look through the cars but it will be a one-make race(s) in one (or two) premium, low powered car on Sports Medium I think.
EarsOfASnake
Member
Dont even try and spin the last race as representative of a low damage race. For starters damage was off, it was in the dark and everyone seemed pretty relaxed. Let's actually give the alternate start a try before writing it off with hypothesis.
I think we should run 1 car across the two tracks and add up the points for a final tally.
I think we should run 1 car across the two tracks and add up the points for a final tally.
I actually like the idea of one make races (for fun, obviously). Unfortunately, it's another doubtful weekend for my attendance.
I'm also fine with light damage as it can still cause engine damage and slow someone for their mistakes without completely taking someone else out of the race as happened to me in the last two events of season 1.
I was basically doing laps by myself and it simply wasn't fun at all (this is in large due to the fact that we were on longer courses where it becomes a bigger problem. at the 'ring my car was sandwiched and I had to withstand a near 13 minute lap because I had full hard damage in every sector of my car)
I'm also fine with light damage as it can still cause engine damage and slow someone for their mistakes without completely taking someone else out of the race as happened to me in the last two events of season 1.
I was basically doing laps by myself and it simply wasn't fun at all (this is in large due to the fact that we were on longer courses where it becomes a bigger problem. at the 'ring my car was sandwiched and I had to withstand a near 13 minute lap because I had full hard damage in every sector of my car)
Angst said:
well I am happy to be retired somehow
and be here as a consultant. if "Full damages" was disable Dibbz would have never led the race, will full damages be fast is not a guarantee of victory it makes the race more interesting.Unfortunately for Dibbz Ashk and Seattle were too fast
I'm with you toxa, but lots of people wants it, so we'll do it next week. If we had been on light damage yesterday the race would have been over by lap 5 or something. But, no complaints from me, we'll try it and if it's a blast we'll do light the week after that as well.
We DID do the last couple of races in the NRL on light damage, the races where definitely fun, but less dynamic IMO.
We DID do the last couple of races in the NRL on light damage, the races where definitely fun, but less dynamic IMO.
EarsOfASnake
Member
That literally makes no sense Toxa. We also know that you can't speculate on what would or would no have happened with damage being different.Toxa said:well I am happy to be retired somehow
Unfortunately for Dibbz Ashk and Seattle were too fast
Angst said:
Its just a matter of perspective really, and it depends a lot on the situation.
Fast drivers will still be fast no matter the level of damage, (nab went from last to first wtf), however due to heavy damage both Nab and Seattle had pretty a pretty "lonely" race, they never fought side to side for the win.
With this in mind I dont agree the race would have been over on lap 5, also the fight for 3rd to 7th place, would have been very tight. Dibbz, MM, Angst, docretes and myself were pretty close imo.
So it comes down to each persons definition of fun. I enjoy it either way to be honest.
I understand what you mean by light damage races being 'less damage' but with full damage I got fucking owned 3 times on Sunday, and that just isn't fun. Or fair. The other thing is that there will still be collisions and people will still make mistakes, so you've always got a chance to pass someone if they suffer misfortune. And what if someone romps away into the distance and dominates? If they are genuinely that fast, that's only fair, isn't it?
Toxa said:well I am happy to be retired somehow
Full damage is only viable if everyone on the grid has absolutely minimum lag, and can drive 110% cleanly. It's even worse on the Nurburgring, once you've made a mistake and gotten engine damage you might as well just give up, it'll take you ~15 minutes to travel round.
Sure heavy damage makes the races more dynamic, but people will still make loads of mistakes with light damage and it really gives you a chance to push to the very edge at times, without the additional risk.
Juicy Bob said:
I agree, but you could always add success ballast if you wanted to slow people down.
Next week will be light damage, as already stated. Lets evaluate how it worked after the race.
I'll comment on the last two posts and then I'll drop the damage discussion until after the race.
I think we all have pretty strong opinions about damage, lets see our next race goes down and then pick up the discussion again.
I'm considering the Ford Mustang Mach1 for the one-make race. I bought it yesterday and raced it stock with Sports Hard. I really liked it.
Either the Ford Mustang, Mazda RX7 or the Nissan350Z, I think. Any other ideas?
*Edit* I'll post the OP tonight, if nobody chimes in I'll go with the Ford Mustang as it looks, sounds and drives like a boss.
I'll comment on the last two posts and then I'll drop the damage discussion until after the race.
Of course that's fair. If someone is the fastest they should win. But, with light damage a fast guy can drive even faster, as he doesn't have to be as careful when passing people and can push through corners much harder. If they push too hard and hit a wall it slows them down and they miss 20 seconds and that's that. Thus all laps can be driven qualification style.Juicy Bob said:
Exactly. And that's exactly what I don't like.Ark said:
I think we all have pretty strong opinions about damage, lets see our next race goes down and then pick up the discussion again.
I'm considering the Ford Mustang Mach1 for the one-make race. I bought it yesterday and raced it stock with Sports Hard. I really liked it.
Either the Ford Mustang, Mazda RX7 or the Nissan350Z, I think. Any other ideas?
*Edit* I'll post the OP tonight, if nobody chimes in I'll go with the Ford Mustang as it looks, sounds and drives like a boss.
Risk Breaker
Member
Angst said:
Okay
I have some ideas depending on how that goes so, yeah, let's see.Mustang Mach1, eh? I think I like the idea, I'm going to try it right now. I don't like the other options that much, too "typical". What I did like was that suggestion somebody made of using the 360 Scuderia but maybe that's a little bit too powerful
Mush said:
Actually, it's a cool idea, but FF cars are pretty drab IMO and I'd prefer to do FR or MR (or RR).
Yeah, as that part is impossible to regulate I think it's easier to just allow it than running the risk of someone abusing an honour system. Suspension upgrade, transmission and differential etc is allowed.G Rom said:
I think we'll go with the Ford. It's a big car, but all small cars are FF - except the Lotus Elise. And I'm afraid people still hate the Elise after the Top Gear challenge...
Samba buses...
Metalmurphy
Member
Angst said:
Basically anything that changes PP besides oil and engine break in
Metalmurphy
Member
Angst said:
I think you should lock down BHP even before the oil change trick
. That's supposed to be the real BHP no?People that do the oil change trick can just use the engine limiter.
Risk Breaker
Member
Other cars I've thought of as kinda similar to the Mach 1 are... Infiniti G35, Nissan 300ZX, Toyota FT-86 Concept, Audi TT, Alfa Brera and Tesla Roadster (lol). I wouldn't have a problem with an Elise 111 either. I guess the choices depend on the track as well.
BMW Z4 and Concept 1 would be cool too.
BMW Z4 and Concept 1 would be cool too.
EarsOfASnake
Member
Roadster would be an interesting shout as they are just grown up go-karts How about one of the many Nissan GTR's?
How about one of the many Nissan GTR's?seattle6418
Member
At some point, we gotta race at Trial Mountain and Deep Forest. I was there last night and it was beautiful.
gutterboy44
Member
Ferrari 512 B race! That is my nomination. Old school Ferrari Challenge race.
Ok, here we go.
One-make, 2 track race
Angst_paint_banner.jpg:
Race starts in:
Allowed car:
BHP / Weight
Teams:
Track:
Laps:
Damage
Tyre Selection
Assists
Players Participating (13/16):
Race procedure:
Credit and thanks to Metalmurphy for nice formatting
One-make, 2 track race
Angst_paint_banner.jpg:
Race starts in:
Allowed car:
Ferrari 512 BB '76
BHP / Weight
Stock, 355 BHP, 1400 kg
Teams:
There are no teams, everyone for themselves.
Track:
1. Monaco
2. Rome
2. Rome
Laps:
1. Monaco, 16 laps
2. Rome, TBD
Weather:2. Rome, TBD
SUN
Damage
Light
Tyre Selection
Sports Hard
Assists
ABS, Manual or Automatic Gearbox
Players Participating (13/16):
- 01 - Angst
- 02 - Risk Breaker
- 03 - MetalMurphy
- 04 - MikeDub
- 05 - Niks
- 06 - G Rom
- 07 - Seattle6418
- 08 - ashk
- 09 - gynoug79
- 10 - f0rk
- 11 - SunhiLegend
- 12 - Dibbz
- 13 - gutterboy44
- 14 -
- 15 -
- 16 -
Race procedure:
Lounge opens - 21.00 CET
Lounge reset - 22.00 CET
Qualifications start - 22.00 CET
Race start 22.15 CET
Please not the earlier start time.
At 21.50 we will do a practice race as a warm-up, attendance for the warm-up race isn't mandatory, but much recommended. When we're done with the warm-up we will do a sync check in the pits, once the sync is complete qualification starts. If you don't know what this is, don't worry, we'll explain it.
Grid position on the second race will be the reverse race result from the previous race.
IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ: Rules and Regulations
Lounge reset - 22.00 CET
Qualifications start - 22.00 CET
Race start 22.15 CET
Please not the earlier start time.
At 21.50 we will do a practice race as a warm-up, attendance for the warm-up race isn't mandatory, but much recommended. When we're done with the warm-up we will do a sync check in the pits, once the sync is complete qualification starts. If you don't know what this is, don't worry, we'll explain it.
Grid position on the second race will be the reverse race result from the previous race.
IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ: Rules and Regulations
Credit and thanks to Metalmurphy for nice formatting
Risk Breaker
Member
I'm SO in Will vote later, gonna do some testing :3
Will vote later, gonna do some testing :3Here are the cars available (minus retro fitted aeros on some cars)
Ford Mustang Mach 1 '71:
Mini Cooper S '07:
Ferrari 512 BB '76:
Volkswagen typ2(T1) SambaBus 62:
Toyota FT86 Concept '10:
Nissan Skyline GT-R V·spec II Nür (R34) 02:
Roadster RS (NC) 07:
Click images for 1080p
If the Sambabus wins I will allow engine upgrades to help people stay awake during the race
Ford Mustang Mach 1 '71:
Mini Cooper S '07:
Ferrari 512 BB '76:
Volkswagen typ2(T1) SambaBus 62:
Toyota FT86 Concept '10:
Nissan Skyline GT-R V·spec II Nür (R34) 02:
Roadster RS (NC) 07:
Click images for 1080p
If the Sambabus wins I will allow engine upgrades to help people stay awake during the race
Metalmurphy
Member
I vote for the Ferrari 512 BB '76
SunhiLegend
Member
8AM woo hoo.
gutterboy44
Member
Metalmurphy said:
Shit yeah, make that two votes! That car is so god damn fun to drive.
EarsOfASnake
Member
gutterboy44 said:
3, that car looks sweet!
seattle6418
Member
I vote for the R34 skyline. A 4wd monster around Monaco and Autumn Ring should be a blast.
One other option would be to have one car in one track, and a second on the second track.
I´m in. I´ll confirm with both Chimilosky and EFJ to see their status. (i´m not a mod, i can´t activate their accounts, so it is what it is for now).
One other option would be to have one car in one track, and a second on the second track.
I´m in. I´ll confirm with both Chimilosky and EFJ to see their status. (i´m not a mod, i can´t activate their accounts, so it is what it is for now).