Ultimadrago
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Aah, gotcha. lol
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Aah, gotcha. lol
TatteredHat
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Fire pool's progressing fairly well somehow, finally managed to get a Collo cane drop during this Magfes.
Just need to get those stupid champion merits now so I can upgrade / element change the harp and switch to SS. Hopefully won't take too long, unless Baha decides on being a bully.
Just need to get those stupid champion merits now so I can upgrade / element change the harp and switch to SS. Hopefully won't take too long, unless Baha decides on being a bully.
wow, nice, how long did it take you to get this far?
Actually not sure. If you're going 80/0 then I'd ask if you can do Maniac reliably. If so, then I'd probably switch.I'm at 80 and nothing. Do you know if Bounty Hunter has any effect?
Is it better to exclusively spend renown pendants on light/dark weapons, even if you're still far from completing any of the other weapon pools? Since the drop rate is said to be lower for light/dark weapons. Finally amassed 5k, and thought I'd get some input before spending them...
Improve your main weapon pool first. Yes light/dark is harder to farm but do you really want to buy light or dark for 3 months just to build an initial pool while your main pool will be shit and you will have hard time completing events?
Thanks, point taken. Used the pendants on the Tiamat guantlets.
TatteredHat
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I've been playing for about 3 months now, but really the pool has only developing at a decent rate since 4 weeks ago since I only got my first Cane after over 200 Collo Magna leeches. It really depends on how lucky you get with drops.
Wait, why didn't you get a gun?
Absolutely. You need fodder as much as you need more weapons for your pool. If you can MVP tiamat reliably then do it.
I can solo yggdrasil with my wind party so I do so when I have some spare ap. Got a nice earth dagger fodder yesterday that gave me another skill point for my wind pool.
MissDeviling
Member
Oh, I'm on Very Hard, I can't even do Extreme. My party gets 1HKO'd if the boss does his AoE attack.
Ultimadrago
Member
Great, a new Earth SSR. Reading through his skills, he doesn't seem useful at all to me, however. Buu.
Laguna's cute at least.
Laguna's cute at least.
Freaking Limit
Member
I wish. I wouldn't mind a few free rolls. Sadly, this new SSR seems a bit weak from first impressions, so I doubt any issues will be found quickly.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Got Fleselles, yet another fire person, and only a lowly R so I wont be able to use him,
I also think it's useful to start working on other weapon pools if you can get mvp. Since my main element right now is fire, I've been hosting wind omegas and have a few guns saved up so far. Once I decide to finish my wind team, I'll have a nice head start on the wind weapon pool.
Se7enSword
Banned
Barring any unforeseen problems, i should be able to get it element changed after tomorrow's star halo.
Congrats! Are you shooting for the character, too?
Se7enSword
Banned
Maybe after a long break >_>
I didn't think medium boost + small boost as HP decreases would be superior to big boost. That's wrong?
TatteredHat
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Hmm, actually I was under the impression that Guns also had large boost. Maybe someone who plays wind can chime in.
Gun is better most of the time, but depending on what you're running, fist can be better.
Let's say your weapons are at +10. Let's just look at raw damage percentages. At 100% health, it's 12% gun vs 15% fist. Once you're at 70% health, gun will do the same damage as fist (14.9% gun vs 15% fist). At 50% health, gun will do quite a bit more damage than fist (18% gun vs 15% fist). And as your health drops, the difference gets massive.
Plus, let's not forget, guns have the highest base attack of any weapon type and fist have the fourth lowest. And we're not even talking about running something like Hawkeye or another class that uses guns so you get that +20% proficiency bonus.
Obviously if you're just rushing MVPs or something, and using a fist weapon class, fist could be best. But you're going to be taking damage, and you're never likely going to be topped off. Gun is especially powerful with characters like Rosetta or someone who needs time to build damage. By the time you're at 5 stacks on Rosetta your team might be at half health and your damage will be enormous.
Let's say your weapons are at +10. Let's just look at raw damage percentages. At 100% health, it's 12% gun vs 15% fist. Once you're at 70% health, gun will do the same damage as fist (14.9% gun vs 15% fist). At 50% health, gun will do quite a bit more damage than fist (18% gun vs 15% fist). And as your health drops, the difference gets massive.
Plus, let's not forget, guns have the highest base attack of any weapon type and fist have the fourth lowest. And we're not even talking about running something like Hawkeye or another class that uses guns so you get that +20% proficiency bonus.
Obviously if you're just rushing MVPs or something, and using a fist weapon class, fist could be best. But you're going to be taking damage, and you're never likely going to be topped off. Gun is especially powerful with characters like Rosetta or someone who needs time to build damage. By the time you're at 5 stacks on Rosetta your team might be at half health and your damage will be enormous.
Guns have two advantages. One it has a higher base attack than gloves. Significantly so. Two, the last stand modifier is actually pretty potent and is effectively better than the glove after a loss of about 15% hp. There's a horribly complex chart on the weapon guide about it but that was my takeaway.
That said, I have a glove in my pool. It's inevitable to get some over the course of farming as yaari said and it's not a bad thing to have a max uncapped one in the pool.
Yes.
dakkumauji
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honestly it could have been worst, you could have pulled Dark Sarunan or Carmelina lol
Lostconfused
Member
You could have pulled a dupe.
Mr. Bubble
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What's the name of the song that plays during the Maniac Kamui boss fight?
Lostconfused
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Alternatively https://youtu.be/Ea2HS8NL4s4
Dedication Through Light
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I think I would take the gold moon over those two characters -- they're both trash. At least the gold moon gives you a grip of AP pots.
He could have pulled an R.
Dedication Through Light
Member
The R's are worthless now since they dont come with a + mark bonus
Lostconfused
Member
You mentioned this before, but I don't think you can actually get AP potions with a golden moon. At least I don't see anything in the store. It's just rupies, xp item, and 2500 points for job shit.
Anyway that's why I am sitting here with 2 gold moons, thinking about what I am even going to do with them. Other than getting more jobs I guess when I unlock them.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Green - fire sword
Brown - both
Black - light gun
And good luck. I got the fire katana drop after many runs, but the gun drop still eludes me.
dakkumauji
Member
supposedly:
earth boss: drops both
wind boss: drops fire kanata
dark boss: drops light gun
i wouldn't know, i still haven't gotten any flip chests drop yet and i'm at the point where I can already trade for all the copies of the event weapons at the shop
I got 2 guns in like 20 dark boss but no katana on wind boss after so many runs (almost emptied the treasure shop on wind boss runs alone lol)
The RNG in this game is something else.
You're gonna find a way to pull a fusion sword in this game.
I just looked and yeah, the AP pots are only there for bronze and silver moons. Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong -- I blame the Discord server for giving me that thought. :x
Still doesn't make dark Sarunan or Carmelina any more useful, though.
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