GymWolf
Member
I mean, you have to render super fast paced space ships and a lot of particles and shit...also maybe asteroids...
I have a 13600k.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen
- Thread starter ResetEraVetVIP
- Start date
I have a 13600k.
ResetEraVetVIP
Member
Insane Metal
Member
This looks awesome, can't wait to see it running at 720p on PS5/XSX in a few years!
Lethal01
Member
This is what realtime rendering can do on a PS5.
And I assume what you are trying it imply is that, this is impressive and close to the detail to the movies models, but no, it's not in the same dimension,
It makes as much sense as posting this.
This is what Realtime rendering can do on a PS5.
Maybe not in gameplay but atleast in cutscenese where we don't need to do any gameplay logic and can add tons of hero light we should be able to come fairly close to this on ps2
And movies have access to being able to spend a minutes per frame, rendered by a super computer, and if that's not enough they can spend an hour per frame or use 100 computers.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Think of the ships like character models. more elaborate than regular enemies but thats pretty much it. The background is pretty much nothing. no geometry, no foliage, no tesselation required, no LODs needed for draw distance.
your CPU is fine. it will come down to just how well optimized their cities are but space battles should not be a problem at 60 fps and 1800p-4k.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Right and honestly if you dont think that is impressive then there is not much I can do to change your mind on what does or does not look close to photorealistic or cg.
SimTourist
Member
It's impressive in the context of videogame graphics, but there is a massive gulf between what games and movies are doing. Even going back 20 years take Gollum in LoTR, they were already doing skeletal simulation, muscle simulation, skin simulation, hair simulation, clothes simulation, subsurface scattering, etc. Games are not doing any of these today at all aside from cheap SSS approximations. We have wooden static models with 2D hair, painted on clothes, no skeleton or muscles inside the model, hard skin with no light scattering or penetration. What you see on the surface and what's going on under the hood are very different. Yes, developers can make good looking scenes in certain conditions and a lot of tricks and lot of time and manpower. But to say that it's even remotely close to what CGI is doing is wrong on all levels, not even current day CGI but from 20 years ago.
Lethal01
Member
Just the texture detail of the skin is like 15x that of the highest quality game characters out there, made of materials that are many times more complex.
I'll admit there are thounsands of movies out there and I'm sure you can find one with absolutely terrible game level CGI, but people here really trying to use AVATAR as an example.
Last edited:
SimTourist
Member
Just the texture detail of the skin is like 15x that of the highest quality game characters out there, made of materials that are many times more complex.
I'll admit there are thounsands of movies out there and I'm sure you can find one with absolutely terrible game level CGI, but people here really trying to use AVATAR as an example.
Games are about on par with the Rock cgi from the Mummy.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lighting is gorgeous. the fog brings down the visual fidelity.
And no need to spoiler tag this. Game is out literally tomorrow. If we start spoiler tagging new games, we would have nothing left to post.
I think so, but someone didn't like it yesterday, so...
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Holy shit. That looks like what Turk thinks Cyberpunk looks like.
Now thats next gen.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
It's the worst game of last year. I tried to ignore it and play it only for graphics... and I still had a bad time
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
wow looks really good
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Ehhh. Looks aight.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
omg. next gen is here.
mansoor1980
Member
space marine 2 looks just as good as those unreal engine5 demos in terms of detail , the horde number is even more sweet , also the animations are really well done
only negative is some pop-in
only negative is some pop-in
Last edited:
Lethal01
Member
Sweet, forspoken's dlc is out already?
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Looks amazing but "sign up for the beta"... dude it's not a single player game ?!
What are you on about? Looks pretty great. Similar to Hogwarts Legacy but much bigger scale
Last edited:
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
its 4 player coop.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I loved Morrowind water but it's time it wasn't so static
Forspoken water gliding and water interaction is even better than this !
Lethal01
Member
Oh, if this is PS5 footage it looks nice actually.
but if it's on PC the lighting is looking really meh, Screen space reflections, no shadows, no/extremely innacurate AO.
Don't think it's a step above Plague tale requiem, but also too lazy to check.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Dude this makes Plagues Tale look like Forspoken.
I will never understand the praise for Plague's Tale. Looks last gen as fuck. This feels like a clear step up in lighting.
Lethal01
Member
Plague atleast had raytraced shadows, it maybe have better use of lighting, but it looks like a technical step back, this definitely ain't matching other games with rt shadows,ao and reflections.
Like, it's a step down from Fornite for sure and still hasn't beat control.
But enough negativity, the lighting is just what keeps jumping out at me every time i see the screen filled with glowing object.
The enemy density is where it shines, and it's got pretty great use of color.
It's geometry is "chunkier" lots of good sized and simple shapes making people perceive it as higher detail while not making things too hard for it's shadow system.
Last edited:
GymWolf
Member
Graphic looks ok to great (not sure about nextgen) but gameplay looks boring af.
GymWolf
Member
Last edited:
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Lol no it doesn't
It looks marginally better.
GymWolf
Member
I saw much better screens but i can't find them.
Some textures in this game are first class, same for the never enough praised atomic heart.
I still think it looks crossgen at best tho, i was not a fan of the complete package, but for a small team, they did good.
Last edited:
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Lol no it doesn't
It looks marginally better.
This looks seriously fantastic. To some people who post in this thread 'good graphics' mean:
- Oversaturated colors
- Headache inducing camera effects
- Contrast higher than Snoop Dogg
- Vaseline like depth of field on everything
GymWolf
Member
I think it looks like good crossgen graphic.
It doesn't send chills to my peewee, so to speak.
Last edited:
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Isn't Plague Tale considered to be in like top 10 best looking games ever? I only played for 58 minutes according to my Steam account but I've heard people praising it a lot.
Crispy Gamer
Member
Yeah I was never overly impressed it always looked inconsistent to me we'll see some areas that look great especially at night with the different moons in the atmosphere but for it to get the label as the best looking upcoming next-gen game had me puzzled
GymWolf
Member
Sure, same as horizon 2 being considered top 5 if not top 3, they still are crossgen tho.
Sure they have SOME nextgen features, but does control looks nextgen because it has rtx? nah, not anymore in 2023.
Last edited:
Lethal01
Member
It's weird, I can atleast agree that the new warhammer looks nice, and I can appreciate a lot of what starfield is doing technically.
But every screenshot I see of it just looks ugly not just graphically but artwise.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
I'd say: work smarter, not harder. What they were able to achieve on PS4 is seriously impressive.
What's that new game from EA that takes advantage of every UE5 feature? The one where you pew pew from your hand like a complete dick head? See, this game requires NASA level hardware to run smoothly but still looks like generic fantasy garbage. It's not even in the same league as something like Forbidden West. And that game works on 2013 piece of shit technology. That's impressive.
GymWolf
Member
Never said that guerrilla aren't impressive.
They are top 3 graphical dev right now.
But the fact that on ps4 the game looks 85% the same show how badly used the ps5 is.
It's not their fault if jimbo is a greedy fuck.
i didn't bought a ps5 to play ps4 games with bells and whistles.
Last edited:
amigastar
Member
I love this kinda stuff, i mean modelling and animating (Zbrush and such) Looks great.
peish
Member
after adding so many lights, it is an instant step up. I hope ps6 generation can run that many lights. 6090Ti something something
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
100%. What I was trying to say is that talent and art direction is equally as important as the newest technology. I honestly can't wait to see Spider-Man 2 running natively on my TV. If it doesn't blow me away as some of the PS4 exclusives did, I'm donating my PS5 to charity, fuck it.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Yeah, this is shitting on practically everything. It has the same fidelity as the top tier games with WAY larger scale battles and actual destruction. Best looking game of the gen thus far.
Im going to buy the living fuck out of this game. To me this is finally a "The Order" moment.
A random ass game just comes out of fucking nowhere and decimates
Last edited:
mrqs
Member
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
photomode shots dont count. we know it looks nothing like that in motion. its a very cross gen looking game. Lighting looks like last Gen ue4 quality. Hell Star Wars has better lighting. And it’s also ue4.Lol no it doesn't
It looks marginally better.
Don’t make me pull up ugly shots of that game. We discussed this plenty in the df threads for this game last year.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yes it’s called cinematography. There is a reason why euro trash studios that push fancy resray tracing effects and textures like the metro and plagues tale devs can’t compete with the naughty dogs and rockstar.