Coriolanus
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Currently outsourced to the finnish mint.
Doubt that they scrapped the presses, tho.
This only applies to coins, however. Notes are a different story.
Greece to hold referendum on austerity measures 5 July
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Currently outsourced to the finnish mint.
Doubt that they scrapped the presses, tho.
This only applies to coins, however. Notes are a different story.
nature boy
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Which will devalue substantially and hardship will become even more evident.
And it's not certain that the economy will grow as much as people expect with a new currency.
Embearded
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Proudly voted NO!
There were so many old people voting YES only because they thought that Tsipras closed the banks and if they vote yes they will get their pensions tomorrow as he will open them again.
They speak of nothing else but their pensions, its annoying and frustrating... What about youths future?
There were so many old people voting YES only because they thought that Tsipras closed the banks and if they vote yes they will get their pensions tomorrow as he will open them again.
They speak of nothing else but their pensions, its annoying and frustrating... What about youths future?
That's not backtracking. That's pointing out how the media misrepresented what he said. 'Could' and 'will' have entirely different meanings in the English language (and their translated counterparts in almost all other languages). I will point you to a page on modal verbs for further research: http://www.englishpage.com/modals/modalintro.html
The referendum has certainly been a wonderful exercise in democracy. From the moment it was announced, it was panned in Brussels, its legitimacy dismissed entirely by Troika leaders. Well, no one is dismissing it any more.
SymbiantXenos
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Convenient to tweet this after the voting for the referendum is closed.
Ether_Snake
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None of this matters considering it would be the best outcome if there is no agreement, and at least Greece wouldn't be at the mercy of the Troika when it comes to just having its ATMs spitting out bills. There's plenty of countries not using the Euro, let's not pretend that Greece is either going to heaven or hell depending on if they use the currency or not.
He always said could. So blame the media, not him. Here is the quote I had on CNBC one hour ago:
"Varoufakis tells CNBC: A deal can come in 24 hours"
Doesn't this go both ways though?
Greedy business men will only see cheap investment, they work like clockwork pouring money into Greece given the devalued coin, Argentina went through the same process growing at staggering rate every year.
Negotiator
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Because cash is running low. 20 euro banknotes have already vanished from the ATMs.
I have a suspicion (inb4conspiracytheory) that this is also an experiment to "force" people to use debit cards. Greeks are obsessed with cash (especially compared to Northern/Central Europe), so this seems to be a "golden opportunity" to change this cash-only culture.
Theonik
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Merkel going into hiding. STOP THE PRESSES.
I feel sorry for Hollande there.
Germans are also very 'Cash Only' from what I've experienced. They are the only reason the 500 Euro note even exists.
My words exactly!
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Μy experience as well. If only they could comprehend what yes means to their children and grandchildren but also their own treatment costs and benefits (επιδομα ΕΚΑΣ
as well. Oh the irony...
b i would like mostly
a is much more likely
There's a 500€ note? WTF
MonorailCat
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It's a meaningless statement that way.
Everything CAN happen. But with 90% certainty it will not happen.
"I could be richest person on earth tomorrow!"
SymbiantXenos
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"Yannis Koutsomitis
‏@YanniKouts
#Greece State Min Papppas says there will be an agreement until July 20.
(the day when ECB's GGB matures)"
Not even 48 hours
‏@YanniKouts
#Greece State Min Papppas says there will be an agreement until July 20.
(the day when ECB's GGB matures)"
Not even 48 hours
Oh yes. We looooooove our cash.
Windom Earle
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Majority of the Greek confirmed delusional. Bye-bye . Tsipras is a piece of shit.
Coriolanus
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It's not like you guys weren't warned pages back about the dangers of following twitter news.
Ether_Snake
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lol, what a myopic way looking at things
Negotiator
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It's annoying that they deem their pensions more important than the lives of young people.
Young people should help old people, NOT the other way around: old people give their (grand)children a few euros from their pension, especially if they're unemployed. That's totally backwards and it needs to change.
I've heard that Germans despise credit cards and debt in general, but they do love using debit cards.
The cash-only culture also exists in Southern Italy and it undermines their economy as well.
a if it means no austerity, b otherwise
Windom Earle
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Well, Greece is done. And Syriza is having a party. GG.
Vlodril
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probably because i ts summer.
speaking for myself i hope for something different. not to quote vaas or anything but it is nonsensical to keep trying the same thing saying now it will work, no now it will work, no now it will work.
Both "solutions" will be painful but we have been stuck and we need to get moving seriously in a direction to fix our shit.
If anything was proved in the last five years was whatever programs were designed for Greece, they clearly did not work (funnily enough i was very pro austerity when things started and i had some disagreements in the past with poisonelf i think).
Yeah, that absolutely sucks. One thing I throughly enjoy about the US is that you can pay everything and everywhere with your creditcard.
Don't be so dramatic
Stiglitz, Piketty, Krugman & Sachs against austerity measures? What has the world come to?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Chaos will ensue in the streets regardless
I'm praying for a healthy solution for both parties, Greece and the EU.
Windom Earle
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Haha,this is the time to be dramatic. Things are definitely gonna get dramatic for Greek people. Austerity will be nothing compared to what's coming.
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Why would they not be against austerity measures? It goes perfectly in line with their economic views. More people should listen to them, they've been right all along.
Admit that this is what you hope for. "Destory! BURNNNN!"
Windom Earle
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Nice edit, and don't tell me what I think.
MonorailCat
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And right back again to more begging and more debt.
https://twitter.com/amaliaheyer/status/617741876318367744
All these mixed messages certainly instill confidence.
Are you gonna tell us 'what's coming' or are you gonna leave it as a surprise for Greek people to see?
Sarcasm.
Negotiator
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Nice scaremongering, man.
Greece is doing what should have done 5 years ago.
Who knows, maybe Uncle Sam could help Greece to tie its new currency with the USD? Greece has a huge geopolitical importance, regardless of its economy.
Come on I don't buy that scenario I've seen the result of other defaults and nothing like a doomsday scenario happened
Windom Earle
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Drachme is coming baby! You can quote me on that.
PumpkinSpice
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Tallshortman
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The greek government seems to have some crazy gall. EU politicians aren't going to crucify themselves at home so greece can avoid austerity.
They are also sending so many mixed signals on what their plans are they give the impression of incompetence. Who knows, maybe they actually have a master plan.
They are also sending so many mixed signals on what their plans are they give the impression of incompetence. Who knows, maybe they actually have a master plan.
Crash Station
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So uh, I'm going on a cruise in a few days, and Greece is 3 of the stops. Am I going to be okay?
... that's the point. It's about as predictable as it gets.
And then on the other side you've got 246 greek econ professors asking greeks to vote yes.
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