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[dotnotbot]

I'm praying for locked 40 FPS mode, it's like the lowest bearable framerate for high nits HDR.

 

[KuraiShidosha]

Thinking a brand new Rockstar game will have a 60 fps option on consoles in the year 2026. Can you imagine being that guy. Could never be me.

My 9950x3D and 5090 custom watercooled setup will be patiently waiting for it whenever it decides to drop. They won't get a double dip out of me.

 

[Kuranghi]

Theres no way to answer this without seeing the scope of the simulation they're going for.

The trailer has those shots that we presume are gameplay on transitions to gameplay (Jason walking into his house, Luica firing grenade launcher at vehicles, them riding the jetski, etc) but we really don't know what the interaction level will be like or how many NPCs will be able to be on screen at once while you cause all manner of havoc with explosives and vehicles. Are most objects simulated as real physics objects that fly everywhere when you interact with them?

I'd say the animations look like they're made for 30fps, its similar to TLOU or Uncharted, those games cutscenes look weird at higher framerates because they've animated things at a speed where if you "tween" the animations more it starts to look sped up and soap opera-y. Go and look at cutscenes videos of TLOU Remastered or any UC game and you'll see what I mean.

 

[Negotiator101]

I stick with 30-40fps prediction

They can enable 60fps mode, why not. But problems is - will they accept big ass differences in performance? Both Starfield and Crimson Desert have places that drop to 30-40fps range in performance mode on Zen 2 console CPU:

So question is - will rockstar accept performance like that? If they do, game might ship with unlocked mode.

Neither of those games are anywhere near the simulated world and geometric detail that GTA 6 will have. We won't see 60 until PS6, Helix and PC whichever comes first. To answer your question, no they wouldn't be happy with performance drops like that.

 

[Holammer]

Neither of those games are anywhere near the simulated world and geometric detail that GTA 6 will have. We won't see 60 until PS6, Helix and PC whichever comes first. To answer your question, no they wouldn't be happy with performance drops like that.

This scene in particular makes me doubt it'll reach 60fps on consoles. So much physics going on, they even have dusty feet from the sand.
You just know the framerate will tank if you cause some chaos there, on a base PS5 anyway.

 

[amigastar]

This scene in particular makes me doubt it'll reach 60fps on consoles. So much physics going on, they even have dusty feet from the sand.
You just know the framerate will tank if you cause some chaos there, on a base PS5 anyway.

Personally i don't think the beach scenes will look like this, it's just a set up for a beach shot with many characters, in the final game there won't be such variety for such a scene. But thats just me, and we don't know for sure.

 

[mdkirby]

Rockstar are wizards and will be working closely with Sony. They ain't gonna be fucking around with this one and will squeeze all the juice they can imo. So yeah, best in class integration of pssr2, with 60fps and much better ray tracing would be my guess.

 

[Bojji]

Rockstar are wizards and will be working closely with Sony. They ain't gonna be fucking around with this one and will squeeze all the juice they can imo. So yeah, best in class integration of pssr2, with 60fps and much better ray tracing would be my guess.

Yeah, with RDR2 - working close with Sony resulted in trash image quality on PS4 Pro vs. native 4k on One X.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Yeah, with RDR2 - working close with Sony resulted in trash image quality on PS4 Pro vs. native 4k on One X.

Indeed. Their CBR implementation was the worst ever. Thankfully that won't happen with PSSR2.

 

[Katatonic]

I'm expecting a 40 fps performance mode on the Pro. Would be nice if they can get a 60 fps mode with good IQ. If they can do better than that, I'll be very impressed and grateful.

 

[MazingerDUDE]

Based on DF analysis, the game runs at 1440P upscaled to 4K with RT GI and RT Reflection on BASE PS5.

Crimson Desert does exactly that, rendering at 1440P with 2 RTs on 30fps quality setting for base console.

So I'd expect something similar in other modes

1080P upscaled to 1440P with just the RT GI on base PS5 for 60fps performance

4K Native on PS5 PRO 30fps quality with more advanced RT,

and 1080P upscaled to 4K using PSSR2 with RT GI and RT Reflection on 60fps performance.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Oh and make poll public.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Crimson Desert shows 30/40+/60+ is possible on an open world non cross-gen engine teaming with systems and abundance of wildlife/NPCs. All while looking stunning.

Wether R* does any of those modes remains to be seen.

 

[Dust-by-Monday]

Runs fine on my PS5 Pro. I'm from the future.

 

[Vick]

As every single other "GTA VI is 30fps" Thread, this too is going to be interesting to revisit in the future.

PS5 Pro will likely just have some of the Quality mode settings from base consoles along with perhaps better RT, PSSR and probably less drops from its 60fps target, in comparison with all other consoles in their own Performance modes.

 

[LordOcidax]

60 fps for GTA6 is going to be a selling point for the next gen version and PC.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

40 FPS mode would be good enough. Hopefully they get a good implementation of PSSR2 and they can adequately leverage hardware RT elements of Pro.

 

[Spukc]

Honestly the ps5 pro is so much better it's like ps3 to ps4

 

[amigastar]

Honestly the ps5 pro is so much better it's like ps3 to ps4

 

[pacman4000]

This scene in particular makes me doubt it'll reach 60fps on consoles. So much physics going on, they even have dusty feet from the sand.
You just know the framerate will tank if you cause some chaos there, on a base PS5 anyway.

If base PS5 tanks in complex scenes (regardless if this particular scene will make it to the game or not) then the Pro will most likely tank too.

I don't get the Pro=40 fps idea so many are hoping for. If the Pro can do 40 fps then the Base most likely can too.

Is there a single game out there where Pro offers higher frame rate than the Base? (fluctuations from target frame rate excluded)

 

[pacman4000]

Honestly the ps5 pro is so much better it's like ps3 to ps4

Lol, no.
The GPU isn't the issue here.

 

[Grenseal]

PS 7 or get outta here

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

I feel like Rockstar won't do multiple graphic modes, they will have just one 30 fps mode for all platforms and adjust resolutions and settings accordingly. But the Pro version will be something like higher base resolution, PSSR, better textures/effects and ray tracing.
I just can't see them wanting their game to be trashed by an unfortunate 60 fps performance mode screenshot taken from one of the base consoles or the Series S. So by having just one 30 fps mode they will make sure all version look good.

 

[Anchovie123]

Is there even a single PS5 game that doesnt have a performance mode? They may not all be a perfect 60fps and may have issues elsewhere but a company shipping a 30fps only game would be insanity.

 

[Bojji]

Is there even a single PS5 game that doesnt have a performance mode? They may not all be a perfect 60fps and may have issues elsewhere but a company shipping a 30fps only game would be insanity.

Several games launched with only 30/40 modes. Many of them were patched later (months later) to have performance modes - like start field, watch dogs legion, plague tale 2, hell blade 2, etc.

I think Gotham knights is still 30fps (CPU limited), final fantasy xiv has unusable 60fps mode (at least on base consoles) and empire of ants is 30fps locked on base PS5 (at least it was at launch, pro version was 60).