viveks86
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Yeah. Just checked the rest of the shots. Interesting!
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GTA V PC Performance Thread
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Yeah. Just checked the rest of the shots. Interesting!
chromatic9
Member
No catch. There's only one FXAA shot, the others nor smaa can tackle those jaggies in my tests.
noomi
Member
I've cleared the final hurdle, it's here!
Now, what's next? Project Cars? Witcher 3?!
P.S. If anyone's awesome at Photoshop and has the time to make a better feature graphic I'll happily use it.
Andy, this is awesome work. I'm a few hours late but I have added it the OP. Thank you so much for your hard work, your guides are really amazing
Philtastic
Member
I've cleared the final hurdle, it's here!
Now, what's next? Project Cars? Witcher 3?!
P.S. If anyone's awesome at Photoshop and has the time to make a better feature graphic I'll happily use it.
I thoroughly enjoyed reading your guide! One thing that I think should be noted is that High Resolution Shadows only actually enables if your Shadow Quality setting is already set to Very High, otherwise it does nothing (this is also reflected by the fact that the predicted VRAM usage only changes if Shadow Quality is already on Very High). Oh and the final interactive picture under Shader Quality which highlights POM and AF changes between Very High and Normal is mislabelled as a comparison between Very High and High.
Mister Negative
Member
Enabling it in the GPU settings didn't seem to help, but pressing alt+enter to go to windowed mode and then right back to full screen actually did. But then I was getting a lot of stuttering while driving, which I wasn't getting before. Seems like recent patches have actually made things worse for me.
Coolbgdog12
Member
Omfgg.... Almost every time I change the freaking in game settings and teh screen blacks out, 7/10 times it will CTD. smh.
Garuda1One
Member
for PC gamers like me, tweaking, turning this off and on, and bla bla bla is THE best part,
an experience you wont find in console..
and when you achieve that 60fps goal after tweaking here and there and hit that sweet spot of performance vs quality, dear God you will never look back...
LordAmused
Member
Soo I forced FXAA through Nvidia Drivers and I'm getting (more?) jaggies when taking screenshots, but none ingame...anybody experienced that issue?
Dusktildawn48
Member
Why does my framerate drop in half after a few mintues of playing?!
icecold1983
Member
Soo I forced FXAA through Nvidia Drivers and I'm getting (more?) jaggies when taking screenshots, but none ingame...anybody experienced that issue?
driver fxaa isnt captured in screens
Self_Destructive
Member
Just wanted to tell Andy what a great job he did on the Graphics/Performance Guide for GTA5. I can just imagine the amount of time and patience that took, due to the sheer amount of options and settings the game has. Great work!
TheAdmiester
Member
Soo I forced FXAA through Nvidia Drivers and I'm getting (more?) jaggies when taking screenshots, but none ingame...anybody experienced that issue?
AFAIK screenshots can't capture the way the control panel does it. You'd have to go borderless windowed and printscreen the window in order for it to show up.
interfreak
Member
Soo I forced FXAA through Nvidia Drivers and I'm getting (more?) jaggies when taking screenshots, but none ingame...anybody experienced that issue?
Maybe it's capturing the shot as the game is displaying it - with no AA on in game and ignoring the NCP FXAA overlay?
LordAmused
Member
Oooh! Yeah I think I read that a few pages ago! Well, thanks for the quick answers guys!
interfreak
Member
Can you give us a couple of shots comparing No AA to in game FXAA and NCP enabled FXAA?
And maybe comparing those to DSR @1440p?
interfreak
Member
Actually, what would be more interesting is to see what affect the below command line function does in game, taken from here:
-fxaa: Set FXAA quality (0-3)
as FXAA is either 'on' or 'off' in game, so it would be great to see what the different versions of FXAA are like.
Can someone test this out with all 4 presets? (0 to 3)
-fxaa: Set FXAA quality (0-3)
as FXAA is either 'on' or 'off' in game, so it would be great to see what the different versions of FXAA are like.
Can someone test this out with all 4 presets? (0 to 3)
LordAmused
Member
You got it!
FXAA through game menu.
No FXAA in menu nor NCP
FXAA through NCP @ borderless
EDIT: Honestly, I think the in-game implementation of FXAA looks better than through NCP.
interfreak
Member
Did you make sure FXAA was disabled in the last shot where it was enabled in the NCP?
Also, would you mind testing the command line FXAA I posted a bit earlier?
Thanks for your efforts!!!
Also, would you mind testing the command line FXAA I posted a bit earlier?
Thanks for your efforts!!!
LordAmused
Member
Yes I did. Screenshot was taken through print screen + borderless like you said with FXAA off the ingame menu.
EDIT: If nobody's done it by tomorrow EDT 9-10AM, I will do it in the morning!
interfreak
Member
interfreak
Member
Which DSR did you use? 1440p?
Are you saying with DSR = FXAA it had the same effect as 1080p with MSAA/TXAA x 2?
Are you saying with DSR = FXAA it had the same effect as 1080p with MSAA/TXAA x 2?
icecold1983
Member
in my testing, it takes 2.25x dsr to match the level of aliasing reduction as 4x msaa. perf impact from that level of dsr is much more than the msaa.
LordAmused
Member
It appears as the NCP FXAA creates mini-jaggies on edges. You can see it on the door of the white car, the middle (EDIT) Trim. (Thanks to The Admiester for the exact word
)TheAdmiester
Member
I think the phrase for that would just be trim. It looks like a chrome piece of trim.
1440p. Yeah, performance wise 1440p + FXAA was identical to MSAA/TXAA x 2. In fact, I think I noticed a 1 fps hit with 1440p.
LordAmused
Member
Yeah, trim is the word, I agree. Thank you!
http://carsfov.moritzlawitschka.de/
I saw this recommended somewhere else. tbh though it seems kind of messed up since it only recommends like a 55° FOV for me...
DJSebolski
Member
2GB of VRAM is so limiting. Hopefully 980ti comes with 6-8GB VRAM
Finally figured out what's bottlenecking my 980 SLI experience: VRAM when driving and loading in new objects at a fast pace.
GTAV has got to be one of the first games that's really really limited by 4 gigs VRAM. Running at 1440p/1527p/~1600p or 4k eats up a ton of VRAM. So does MSAA/TXAA. Everything else hardly makes a difference besides distance scaling/population variety if you've got a 980 or higher.
Once I figured out that, I found a happy medium by dropping population variety to practically zero, freeing up extra VRAM bandwith for higher resolutions. I'm running at ~1600p with just FXAA and it's pretty smooth now when driving. Even at 1440p, throwing on some MSAA/TXAA is just too much for the VRAM, so it seems like it's better to try to get to 1600p DSR with some smoothing and FXAA.
When walking around on foot none of this really applies and 4k or 8x MSAA/TXAA is fine even with 4gig VRAM and it'll be the gpu/cpu power limiting the FPS there. Since objects load into view, much, much slower.
Man, I hope GTAV is one of the very, very few games in this PS4/X1 based generation that's highly limited at 4gig VRAM. It sucks if stuff like the 980 have the raw performance to push FPS and effects, but turn out to be lacking the VRAM to do 2k-4k with decent AA because of VRAM limits.
GTAV has got to be one of the first games that's really really limited by 4 gigs VRAM. Running at 1440p/1527p/~1600p or 4k eats up a ton of VRAM. So does MSAA/TXAA. Everything else hardly makes a difference besides distance scaling/population variety if you've got a 980 or higher.
Once I figured out that, I found a happy medium by dropping population variety to practically zero, freeing up extra VRAM bandwith for higher resolutions. I'm running at ~1600p with just FXAA and it's pretty smooth now when driving. Even at 1440p, throwing on some MSAA/TXAA is just too much for the VRAM, so it seems like it's better to try to get to 1600p DSR with some smoothing and FXAA.
When walking around on foot none of this really applies and 4k or 8x MSAA/TXAA is fine even with 4gig VRAM and it'll be the gpu/cpu power limiting the FPS there. Since objects load into view, much, much slower.
Man, I hope GTAV is one of the very, very few games in this PS4/X1 based generation that's highly limited at 4gig VRAM. It sucks if stuff like the 980 have the raw performance to push FPS and effects, but turn out to be lacking the VRAM to do 2k-4k with decent AA because of VRAM limits.
Yeeeeep. YEP.
Pagusas
Elden Member
You already know the 980 isn't setup for 4k/high frame rates. It's not a card that will take you through this gen achieving 4k/smooth game play. Give up on that dream now and just plan an upgrade in 2 cycles.
Eh, basically any game other than GTAV/AC Unity runs at 2k+ 60fps no problem with good AA and most optimized PS3/X360 gen titles run at ~4k/60fps with 4x MSAA.
So I'm wondering if overclocking the VRAM would help driving performance at higher resolutions when the game is slow to load in the new objects which causes the framerate to drop during driving. Need to figure out what program to use to overclock vram.
Smushroomed
Banned
Has anyone's geforce experience recommended settings updated after the guide came out?
Does geforce taken into account my 970 SLI setup?
Does geforce taken into account my 970 SLI setup?
Peterthumpa
Member
Quick question - which setting governates (if there's one) self shadowing quality based on distance from objects?
Self shadows from the angles of my Lambo's doors, for example, are good up close but become a pixelated mess a few steps back. Same happens with self shadowing in store signs, buckets and plenty of other objects.
Shadows are very high, using PCSS. Basically everything maxed.
Self shadows from the angles of my Lambo's doors, for example, are good up close but become a pixelated mess a few steps back. Same happens with self shadowing in store signs, buckets and plenty of other objects.
Shadows are very high, using PCSS. Basically everything maxed.
icecold1983
Member
A 980 doesnt have the power to drive gta at anything even approaching 4k/60 regardless of vram.
icecold1983
Member
Short of someone finding ini commands to edit theres nothing you can do to improve it
You know what I should do?
turn MSI afterburner off and just play the game
I got to that point the other day (except with FRAPS since Afterburner was making me lose 10-15 FPS). Feels goods, man.
Running practically everything at very high myself. After reading that (very cool!) Nvidia tweak guide and playing around with the director mode... I think I've settled on my final settings, the ones where I can just turn off fraps and enjoy the damn game, haha. Dropped particles and grass to high, turned PCSS back on, and reflections and postfx to ultra. No AA, heretic I know! I can use director mode to jump to Paleto Bay with 5 stars at midnight with rain and thunder and it stays mostly at 60, drops are totally bearable (55? OH NO!) and only really perceivable when I'm eyeballing the frame counter instead of the game. Same setup with very high grass would slice my framerate in half in that area.
i5 4670k @ 4.2 and a GTX 970 FTW, by the way.
i5 4670k @ 4.2 and a GTX 970 FTW, by the way.
Wait afterburner costs you 10fps?
Pretty sure it's some kind of glitch with a program on my computer (4790k/16GB RAM/290x) but as soon as I turn on the Afterburner OSD, my FPS drops 10-15, which I've verified by having FRAPS running at the same time.
Pop On Arrival
Banned
jesus christ, my framerate dropped so much after the latest patch. Before it would barely dip below 60, now I'm driving around the city at a pretty much stable 52fps.
So fucking annoying.
So fucking annoying.
Philtastic
Member
Interesting. I might have to test that with FRAPS in Paleto Bay....
Allnamestakenlol
Member
True, you need two 980s for that.
nobodyshero
Banned
I'm rocking R9 290, 8GB RAM, and 17 4790. All settings at high and very high (I just stuck with defaults) at 1080p. It runs well, but it get obnoxiously hitchy driving with areas of high traffic. Not so much like a frame rate dip, but it will just like stop for a few milliseconds constantly, super jarring. It's actually really obnoxious especally since it isn't just a smooth dip in the framerate.
Has anyone noticed this? Anyone know what might be a quick fix?
Has anyone noticed this? Anyone know what might be a quick fix?
Friend of Sonic
Member
I've boy toying with dropping grass down to high. I think I can live with losing some shadows...