Ow, that was edgy.
I guess feel good speeches about the importance of women in business is "rich serving the rich" now.
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I guess feel good speeches about the importance of women in business is "rich serving the rich" now.
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https://investmentwatchblog.com/hil...s-could-get-her-out-of-running-for-persident/
we bought in. no time for buyer's remorse now. It's either her, a politician's politician, or a literal clown.
Simon Belmont
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I guess I can't speak for the poster in question, but Sanders has taken a lot of flack for not connecting with minority voters. That's what I assumed they meant, but I could be wrong.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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How many bills are represented there? It looks like mostly regarding bankruptcy.
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bonesmccoy
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Seems like Hillary wants poor American lives to continue past Chapter 7 and end at Chapter 13.
That's all the same bill.
What suggests an attempt at edginess?
Vyse The Legend
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Yeah, it looks like it. Just more fodder and talking points for Trump for the next week or so.
Wait, is it really just this again?
PrimaNocta
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So whats the summary of this? That she makes a lot of money on speeches and likes to fly private with perks like most millionaires? I have my issues with her but if the choice I have this November is between Clinton or the buffoon Trump, thats going to be one of the easiest decisions of my life.
Hahaha I'd love to see how Trump, Mr. I'm so fabulously wealthy and successful, would spin Hillary making bank in the week where it's been revealed his campaign is a broke ass mess begging special interest donors to pony up.
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"Crooked Hillary!"
titiklabingapat
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How come when other men in politics do it, it's totally fine? She's a famous and powerful person. Get over it.
The only people that I see still bringing it up are the butthurt Bernie supporters to boot. Bernie lost. Move the fuck along.
The only people that I see still bringing it up are the butthurt Bernie supporters to boot. Bernie lost. Move the fuck along.
Future Foundation
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Are you even aware of the issue? Its an old one, shes already claimed she regretted voting for it. But thats what Hillary does. Votes then regrets later.
Depends on if its funny to you personally or not. Take a moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWHlw_gum1M
Is that funny?
Imperfected
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Well, yes. That's why I said early in the thread that it's sort of worthless to Trump.
If HRC was running against some sort of feel-good, upper-middle-class personal success story candidate then this could be marginally useful in the sense of painting her as the beneficiary of enormous wealth and personal privilege.
But... she's running against Donald Trump. There's basically no line of attack he can draw that includes the words "greedy", "money", "privilege", or "sleazy business" that isn't going to come crashing right down on top of him.
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That page is definitely funny dude. They can't even spell "Hillary".
Actually this is definitely the #hottake from this week.
Clinton is so much better than Trump she's actually significantly better at being a rich rentier parasite than he is and it's not even her main job.
Anybody who can negotiate a $250k speaking fee from a public university can definitely negotiate better trade deals for the United States of America.
To be fair that's a lot of words to read when it's really easy to copy and paste crap
Obama himself has written about the corrupting effect of money in politics from his own experience fundraising. So why is it so hard for gaffers to accept that reality when it's their preferred candidate under attack for it?
I could quote the excerpt from his book, though it's always conveniently ignored whenever I've done so.
I could quote the excerpt from his book, though it's always conveniently ignored whenever I've done so.
lastflowers
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This thread: I mean why should somebody go steal and break the law to get all they can when there's always some law where you can be legal and get it all anyway!
Future Foundation
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Yeah, I'm aware of the issue. Me being aware of said issue has fuck all to do with me thinking someone depositing some pearl-clutching, Facebook Post from Your Uncle-level news "site" is funny or not (it is).
eh.. I guess so man. But the items on the uncles news site, are legitimate items. So.. I guess lul.
Rentahamster
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Beyonce and Lance Armstrong aren't running to be the President of the United States, nor would they be in a position to make decisions that would be favorable to these companies and those individuals connected to those companies. (or decisions unfavorable to their opponents).
We are suspicious/skeptical about the influence of money from areas like the NRA, oil companies, tobacco companies, law firms, banks, brothers with the last name Koch, old guys with the last name Soros, the military industrial complex, the prison industrial complex, and all these other things. Rich people and corporations alike tend to act in their self interest. All of them.
Is this not worthy of (at the very least) suspicion and a healthy dose of skepticism? #wearethe47%
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They can't even spell "Hillary".
Imperfected
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I feel like we used to have more rules in campaign finance. Remind me what happened, again?
Garrett Hawke
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Seriously. How long has she been in the game?
If there were any serious dirt on her, it would have been aired LONG ago.
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It's clear to me now that we have the same expectations from Lebron James, Beyoncé, and the cast of GOT that we do the leader of our country.
The context of my post was about what was pasted in the thread. Didn't think I had to clarify that. But since were are doing this. Digging around the site for something no one posted here is on you to try to discredit something shes already apologized for, like most of her blunders she can't see down the road on, while others can.
There are several legitimate sources that cover the items pasted in the thread. The messenger about how she fucked people over with her vote doesn't matter to me. It is still an important example of how she lacks the ability to make solid decisions that factor in the future.
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Vyse The Legend
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Uh, he is already talking about this on his Twitter: how she took money from foreign governments in exchange for political favors etc.
That's the Clinton Foundation stuff though isn't it? Not necessarily her speaking fees. Though I don't doubt he'll try his Crooked Hillary line there too.
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That site is filled with conspiracy theories about the Orlando shooting and such quality posts like "Anyone notice the Rainbow Heart at the top of the YouTube.com page?" that leads to a youtube video about the "evils" of LGBT+ pride.
I don't think that site is exactly legit, and I'm sure that there are plenty of other reputable sources out there like you claim. I just think it's pretty reasonable to question the authenticity of anything the originates from that site.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB120113997862512117
No need to ignore it.
I dont think the sites legit, but the info about the bill and her support is true. As Obama pointed out.
Orbis Tabula
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I mean, it's pretty clear to me that the argument being made by most posters isn't "Money can't possibly corrupt politicians, and it's silly to say so!" If that were their position, you would have a point. As it stands, it looks more like you're putting on a good show of knocking over a straw man.
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She didn't vote for it in 2005.
excelsiorlef
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It makes the whole thing pretty moot. Her 2001 vote was hinged on a bunch of amendments to help women (I'd like to see the final vote tally, it's possible she acted to try and make something she thought was going to pass anyway better) and when it actually came up for a proper vote into law she opposed it.
This is your smoking gun of corruption?
Generally when you buy a vote they actually have to ya know vote oh and usually when you buy a vote the person you're buying doesn't describe it as holding their nose.
Smoking gun? No. Just a history of bad decisions for the benefit of the wealthy. Like the Iraq War vote. The 2001 vote was just as damaging to the public as the 2005 one. As our president noted, due to putting the values of creditors and banks over the people.
Rebuke the idea that I'm all of a sudden representing team clinton is corrupt? That was placed on me. I took issue with people laughing off her support of a fucked up bill, that as our president noted, was just as bad as the 2005 one because of who was behind it.
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I didn't post that... uncle news site.... just noted that the statements were on point with her vote.
You just said nothing to rebuke excelsiorlef.
The original link sourced is missing context, that's the short and long of it.
cheezcake
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Partisanship is a hell of a drug. People will do as many mental backflips as necessary to convince themselves their candidate is near perfect, as soon as you concede a single fault its viewed as giving ammo to the GOP.
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Waters aren't muddy enough. Kick the dirt a little harder.
kaname-san
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What are they saying in these speeches that justifies such a high price?
excelsiorlef
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Secret passcodes to give to the IRS and other Federal agencies to avoid investigation. Clintons run those groups even when they aren't in power, true fact.
She's an accomplished human being, that's what justifies the price.
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