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Guild Wars 2 - Heart of Thorns |OT| Welcome to the Jungle...
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Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Maybe you could shed some light on something for me - I don't really, I dunno, fully grasp the shroud mechanic of necomancers. Like, as I'm going about my low level scrub business of leveling through events and hearts, I don't even think to bother pressing F1 most of the time. Is it generally a more group/pvp thing that comes into play later?
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Generally you can play whatever class you want in PvE. But you'll need to run a "meta approved" build to come near any high end pick up groups. A big chunk of that is having the right gear, which is what makes it a long, long ways off for any new player. There is a buttload of other (better) content out there to get through.
Stats and builds don't really matter much until you hit 80. 1-80 is basically a big long hands off tutorial. Sort of like how 1-20 used to be. One of the game's high points is during this phase when you start to realize how stats affect how you play, how skills and traits fit in and all that. I'd sit back and enjoy the ride.
Save all your gold and materials. Salvage everything you aren't going to use (Basic kit is fine until your start getting yellow (rares) item higher than level 68. That is where ectoplasm comes from.) The entire game scales, but you'll still receive the appropriate level loot/xp. You can basically get to 80 by just doing each of the race's starting zones. Although you want to keep your item levels no more than 10 levels below your character level (e.g. a level 15 weapon scales down terrible on a level 45 character.) Heart vendors should keep you covered.
At 80, the goal should be to hit full exotic gear. Most likely Berserker stats (Power, precision, ferocity.) Defensive stats just aren't terribly useful in PvE once you grasp how the combat works. Active defense like dodges, blocks, and positioning will do more than any amount of toughness. Mix-n-matching stats doesn't work too well for the most part, so you'll want to focus on one stat combo.
WvW and PvP are different entirely. There, defensive stats and traits can actually matter. Although WvW (Think AB) will use your PvE gear. WvW will give you XP & loot like PvE-land, so you can level up in there if you prefer. Its how I did my first character way back then. PvP uses different gear entirely. All the stats come from the amulets, everyone is equal, etc. Its a good place to mess around with builds and preview a class even if you aren't into PvP.
Metabattle.com is basically GW2's PvX wiki, although a bit less useful imo.
Generally you can play whatever class you want in PvE. But you'll need to run a "meta approved" build to come near any high end pick up groups. A big chunk of that is having the right gear, which is what makes it a long, long ways off for any new player. There is a buttload of other (better) content out there to get through.
Stats and builds don't really matter much until you hit 80. 1-80 is basically a big long hands off tutorial. Sort of like how 1-20 used to be. One of the game's high points is during this phase when you start to realize how stats affect how you play, how skills and traits fit in and all that. I'd sit back and enjoy the ride.
Save all your gold and materials. Salvage everything you aren't going to use (Basic kit is fine until your start getting yellow (rares) item higher than level 68. That is where ectoplasm comes from.) The entire game scales, but you'll still receive the appropriate level loot/xp. You can basically get to 80 by just doing each of the race's starting zones. Although you want to keep your item levels no more than 10 levels below your character level (e.g. a level 15 weapon scales down terrible on a level 45 character.) Heart vendors should keep you covered.
At 80, the goal should be to hit full exotic gear. Most likely Berserker stats (Power, precision, ferocity.) Defensive stats just aren't terribly useful in PvE once you grasp how the combat works. Active defense like dodges, blocks, and positioning will do more than any amount of toughness. Mix-n-matching stats doesn't work too well for the most part, so you'll want to focus on one stat combo.
WvW and PvP are different entirely. There, defensive stats and traits can actually matter. Although WvW (Think AB) will use your PvE gear. WvW will give you XP & loot like PvE-land, so you can level up in there if you prefer. Its how I did my first character way back then. PvP uses different gear entirely. All the stats come from the amulets, everyone is equal, etc. Its a good place to mess around with builds and preview a class even if you aren't into PvP.
Metabattle.com is basically GW2's PvX wiki, although a bit less useful imo.
In my reaper build I use it as a second chance health bar because I have it set to activate when my health bottoms out. I do do much pvp or wvw stuff, and there are probably builds out there that make heavier use of it. In the I didn't use it much before. There are other necros about that might have better insight.
For just under three weeks though, plus no new worlds.
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-1-2016
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-1-2016
Reaper is mint because it addresses so many of necro's faults, if you don't have HoT you're playing the gimped version of the profession still. It's not absolute toilet - they got better just before HoT launched but you can expect randoms to look down their noses at you for not bringing a more useful professsion. If you're going to get HoT though make a necro because holy shit wheeeeeeeeeeeee.
E: Where is Lord Vanquish?
E: Where is Lord Vanquish?
I've missed World 1 Tribulation Mode since the day it went away. Didn't expect new worlds. Just happy to have World 1 back <3
Yup. Game totally redeemed ;P
sackboy2197
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Could anyone explain to me this event briefly? I too have started playing after it, but heard an awful lot about it either way.
Vigilant Walrus
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SAB was frustrating for me last time. I really want some of those achievements.
Is there any easier to follow guides than Dulfys? I am completely useless at SAB.
Is there any easier to follow guides than Dulfys? I am completely useless at SAB.
Nemesis121
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unlock SAB to make them forget the current state of the game.....
Super sigh of relief when I saw that all the Tribulation achievements were already completed today.
Hi there,
Just post your character name and we will invite you to the guild
Ill Raise Ur Bones.
I have a cheesy naming system for my characters. The verb is the only thing that changes by class. I'll Slash..... Heal (When there was a monk.)
It's cheesy but easy to keep track of.
Wait, there's ectoplasm in this game? Oh Balthazar. Don't tell me i have to farm them to get GW2 version of Obsidian Armor..... I never got a piece in GW1. I traded all my ectos for a Collosall Scimitar.
Noisy Ninj4
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Ectoplasm is used for a wide range of things at level 80. Don't worry too much, it's fairly easy to acquire once you hit 80..
Wait, there's ectoplasm in this game? Oh Balthazar. Don't tell me i have to farm them to get GW2 version of Obsidian Armor..... I never got a piece in GW1. I traded all my ectos for a Collosall Scimitar.
Invite sent...
Welcome to GAF! be sure to pres "g" and accept from the guild pane!
Welcome to GAF! be sure to pres "g" and accept from the guild pane!
Ill Raise Ur Bones.
I have a cheesy naming system for my characters. The verb is the only thing that changes by class. I'll Slash..... Heal (When there was a monk.)
It's cheesy but easy to keep track of.
Wait, there's ectoplasm in this game? Oh Balthazar. Don't tell me i have to farm them to get GW2 version of Obsidian Armor..... I never got a piece in GW1. I traded all my ectos for a Collosall Scimitar.
appletoasty
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Tbh none of the SAB skins or minis appeal to me at all but dat boombox. Gimme
Nemesis121
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Trying erase the stench of murdering 2 Legendaries...
For a low lever player like me, is it worth buying Hearts of Thorns already and is there a cheap place to buy it or you can only get it from the official website?
Squall ASF
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For a low lever player like me, is it worth buying Hearts of Thorns already and is there a cheap place to buy it or you can only get it from the official website?
The new zones are level 80 and you can't unlock the elite specialization tracks for each class until you master all the cores skills and traits which requires you to hit level 80 to obtain enough points to max them out. This being the case, it'd make sense for you to play the core game first and get a toon to 80 and see how much you like the game. Consider it a big free trial. You might want to look up the elite specializations, watch some videos of their skills to help you determine what class you want and if you think you'll covet HoT for them. Gliding is another awesome perk of HoT so you might get jealous seeing people glide around Central Tyria ha I do believe it worth looking up the Elite Spec as they can really shake up and address the weakness' of a class making them great when they might not have been worth playing before. For instance, Necromancer was considered bottom tier before HoT but it's elite specialization, Reaper is awesome and a lot of fun to play.
As for SAB coming back.....FINALLY! Although I was quite disappointed that there are no new worlds AND it's only here for a short while but this was largely made up for later in the day when they said it'd become an annual festival. Hopefully they'll have World 3 for next year's... Kinda wish you could play this all year round though but better than nothing! I still have a bunch of baubles and such in my bank as I knew it'd come back one day.
Necros are bottom tier? I weep... I'm guessing Elementalist are still kings on top tier.
Squall ASF
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They got an update just before HoT apparently that made them better so they shouldn't be bad, and honestly in PvE you can play how you want, any class and you shouldn't have issues outside of the Raid of course which is the highest end game content and high level fractals which serve as the games current dungeon role. So if you dig Necros, go ahead and select one and have fun with the great news being that if you dig the game and buy HoT later, the Necro elite spec is awesome and one of the more fun to play.
Typically people really only bother grading classes in tiers for PvP but yes, Eles are really strong. Again though, every class is strong and can be fun in PvE, it's more what flavor do you enjoy more? You can worry about the strongest builds and DPS when and if you decide to tackle the games most challenging content.
I think what you mean to say here is mega content.
Noisy Ninj4
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Pre-hot, they were not great at most pve. Minions used to be aoe fodder, party support is lackluster, and their damage was relatively low. Necros thrived on conditions and boon stripping.
Reaper gave necro a high powered melee option. Basic shroud attack is quick, and when traited to apply burning the damage stacks up.
appletoasty
Member
Is there a reason why baubles and bauble bubbles aren't currency in the wallet
I guess I'll make an Elementalist for now until I get a hang of the game. You guys were right about this being an entirely new game. Zones aren't instanced. My companions aren't there anymore. But I'm loving it so far. I think I'm mostly likely going to buy HoT. This is the new MMO I'm going to lose my time to now.
I still geek out over just locations that were in GW1 like Lion's Arch. Now time to refresh my memory on the lore of GW1. Because there were a couple of sleeping dragons that I remember.
Immersion.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Argh, sometimes my screen would randomly freeze and put me in some blue watery world while playing SAB.
appletoasty
Member
So ALL of the locations are back! Except for Cantha! Because Factions suc...... was mediocre!
Squall ASF
Member
That's a DAMN fine question. I've wasted slots to store them for literally years ;p
Haha whatever you like but I promise you can manage with a Necro or any other class. I'd rather see you abandon a class because you didn't like how it played in this game than because you're concerned it won't be strong. You're sharing my experience at launch, the closest thing I played to an MMO before GW2 was GW1 so this was my first and still only, persistent world, true MMO. It's awesome just exploring and discovering hidden areas and easter eggs ANET embedded in the game your first time through and hopefully you'll encounter plenty of positive experiences with the community. The hardcore cutthroats are mostly roaming the Raid so just running around zones doing events should be a positive and fun experience. Anyway, did you join the GAF guild yet? If you see a player name that starts with "Squalls", that's me and you can feel free to hit me up with questions or to play with you in-game.
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