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inky

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Yeah, they did that after the karma 'exploits'. AFAIK karma vendor stuff can't be salvaged anymore. Like I said, maybe if you report it they might fix it, looks like a pretty big oversight on their part.

I think it can still be used in the Mystic Forge at least, but don't quote me on that.
 

Achtius

Member
I did. I asked politely :( I admit it was my mistake tho, since it partly is.

Reminder to self, never preview anything ever again. I thought I would post picture of how the armor set looks like on gaf =/
 

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
wait..it's unsalvageable? FML

The only solace i found in my mistake is...AT LEAST I COULD USE THE RUNE. T_T;;

Open a support ticket, maybe you can get some help.
 
Yeah, they did that after the karma 'exploits'. AFAIK karma vendor stuff can't be salvaged anymore. Like I said, maybe if you report it they might fix it, looks like a pretty big oversight on their part.
Agreed. This ain't right. Anet should either make the equipment account bound or make it so people can't buy equipment they can't use.
 

Arken2121

Member
I'll just put down the flaws that I see after playing for a while.

Weapons:
-Hammer too slow to utilize AA, rest of kit is decent
-Scepter orb is also too slow with the root being very short(2 seconds)
-1h sword is excellent
-1h mace is excellent(besides the symbol)
-2h sword is good when you're in close quarters
-Shield has excellent utility skills
-Focus is above average but against a skilled player, your shield will be burned down before it explodes
-Torch has some very nice damage( I've hit players with over 5k crit on throwing fire)

Utility skills:

Shouts:
-Save yourselves is the best shout we have, excellent for all builds
-Retreat has a only one good boon(swiftness) while giving aegis I think is terrible since it'll only last a few seconds
-Stand your ground is awesome for holding a point and finishing off players.
-Hold the line is only good for it's protection boon, the regen is insignificiant.

Meditations:
-Smite condition is awesome for more than double the damage into an aoe(heals you for about 2k when traited)
-Judges intervention is also excellent in regards to aoe burning with a 2k heal
-Merciful intervention is nice but the CD is too long
-Contemplation of purity is awesome when you have tons of conditions with the 2k heal.

Spirit weapons:
-Hammer of Justice has got to be the best spirit weapon out of the selection with constant pressure and a spammable KD(when traited)
-Sword of justice is pretty lame, does one attack every 3 seconds or so and the damage is minor
-Bow of truth is average with condition removal every so often and an aoe regen which, again, is lacking
Shield of the avenger- pretty nice spirit weapon with a shield and an aoe weakness/fumble. Long CD though

Consecrations:
-Sanctuary is now useless, nerfing it from a 10 to a 6 second bubble on a 2 minute cool down? No thanks, and i'll remind you that the healing inside the bubble isn't significant.
-Hallowed Ground Is decent for holding a point but you might as well just use stand your ground instead since it's on less than half of hallowed grounds CD.
-Purging flames has a nice Condition removal effect but the CD is, again too long for its use
-Wall of reflection is useless against anyone with half a brain to just run past/around it to shoot you.

Elites:
-Tome of courage is the best elite a guardian can use hands down
-Tome of wrath is not nearly as good as courage
-Renewed focus is horrible, you look like you're taking a dump while recharging virtues.
 

Achtius

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If anyone cares:

The medium set, I was too sad afterward to take the pic for heavy/light armor ;P

gw127.jpg
 

KingKong

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When you're chaining events, hearts, and exploration, PvE feels great.

But man, when you're doing one heart that has terrible objectives (like clearing tunnels and waiting for spawns) the game grinds to a halt.

Today was most of the latter, tried to get to 40 but ran out of renowned hearts and my personal quest is at 42, may try to chain Hinterlands events.


Are you talking about the Harathi heart up top for clearing rubble and killing harpies? Yeah its bullshit, I couldnt find any harpies so I just had to wait for spawns
 
Are you talking about the Harathi heart up top for clearing rubble and killing harpies? Yeah its bullshit, I couldnt find any harpies so I just had to wait for spawns

Yep that's the one, it was a nightmare. Also, I had a similar experience in some zone Something of Ruin, had to get scrap metal pieces of which there were like 6 spawns. Another objective was to kill Ogres, but there were no Ogres around.
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
The 40's are a rough road of leveling. Once you hit 50, there are a lot of cool zones to visit and do events in...except Timberline and Iron Marches, which are both rife with broken events at the moment. :/

Just stick to bloodtide and Sparkfly when you hit 50.
 

Trey

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Yep that's the one, it was a nightmare. Also, I had a similar experience in some zone Something of Ruin, had to get scrap metal pieces of which there were like 6 spawns. Another objective was to kill Ogres, but there were no Ogres around.

There's a couple of those broken hearts. I ran into three so far.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Yeah, they did that after the karma 'exploits'. AFAIK karma vendor stuff can't be salvaged anymore. Like I said, maybe if you report it they might fix it, looks like a pretty big oversight on their part.

I think it can still be used in the Mystic Forge at least, but don't quote me on that.

Pretty sure Karma items were NEVER salvageable, I remember because I tried to salvage an item right after launch that I accidentally (I know your pain, but my item was crazy cheap :X) bought and it didn't work. And since you were never able to sell them to vendors either, all I was able to do was destroy it :( (I didn;t know about the mystic forge back then...)
 

Ferny

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For those wondering about the TP "We've been expanding the Trading Post's capacity to handle the huge volume of requested trades. After our test yesterday, we've been working to resolve some issues reported by players. We expect to have the Trading Post online for all players this evening (edit: after tonight's software update)."
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Also, a detail I REALLY like about dynamic events:

Sometimes, you're just randomly walking around in the world and see an NPC with a full name. Now it's not a hearts-NPC or a DE-NPC or just anything, really, just an NPC with a name. So i go up and start a conversation. During that conversation the person randomly starts talking about one of her students somewhere that might need help, and if you follow that convo a DE will appear in your map, somewhere FAR away from where you actually are, indicating there is a DE going on somewhere else that you probably would've missed. I've seen that happen quite a few times, it really helps with the immersion that people actually know each other and have jobs/professions throughout the world that they follow. I then went to that student and did a 3-DE-chain that led to the "student" eventually being reunited with their "professor" who I'd accidentally met before and they had a conversation. It was great.
 

Hasemo

(;・∀・)ハッ?
For those wondering about the TP "We've been expanding the Trading Post's capacity to handle the huge volume of requested trades. After our test yesterday, we've been working to resolve some issues reported by players. We expect to have the Trading Post online for all players this evening (edit: after tonight's software update)."
This means in about 1,5h from now, right?
 

Shrennin

Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Also, Lornar's Pass is really, really, really annoying to complete. I mean, it's not really annoying if you go in with the idea of exploration but if you go strictly to 100% complete it (like I did) then it becomes annoying. I almost wish the map didn't give much information on vistas, points of interest, or renown quests. I try to go in with the idea of exploration, but sometimes I just like to complete areas for the satisfaction. That's the old MMO player in me. :/

Anyway, I know the map idea wouldn't work but I think it would really help with the game's sense of wonder not knowing where anything was until the player comes to it.
 
fuck escort missions.

It's cool that you can swift the cargo bull though.


btw: i see a lot of guardians use shield in pve. I can't seem to find a good use for it. Am I missing something?
 

TopDreg

Member
I'm really tempted to play mesmer, but I love my engineer and don't want to waste the time I put into him. Auuuuuuugh but mesmer greatsword sounds so badass
 

eek5

Member
So I got glitched when I got knocked down and played my character lying down for a hour or so.

Haha. That happened to me on a jumping puzzle; made it 100x harder than it needed to be because I had no idea where my feet were :lol
 

Dreavus

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Also, a detail I REALLY like about dynamic events:

Sometimes, you're just randomly walking around in the world and see an NPC with a full name. Now it's not a hearts-NPC or a DE-NPC or just anything, really, just an NPC with a name. So i go up and start a conversation. During that conversation the person randomly starts talking about one of her students somewhere that might need help, and if you follow that convo a DE will appear in your map, somewhere FAR away from where you actually are, indicating there is a DE going on somewhere else that you probably would've missed. I've seen that happen quite a few times, it really helps with the immersion that people actually know each other and have jobs/professions throughout the world that they follow. I then went to that student and did a 3-DE-chain that led to the "student" eventually being reunited with their "professor" who I'd accidentally met before and they had a conversation. It was great.

Yeah those are really cool. Especially the multi-part ones like you mentioned.

One thing that is actively breaking immersion for me is people who won't shut up about the more infrequent large scale events in map chat. In Blazeridge Steppes: "When's the boss coming?" "boss spawned yet?" "has the pre-event for the boss started yet?" - drives me nuts.

I finally had to ask someone how to filter that talk out. For a game centered around exploration and "spontaneous" events and finding stuff on your own, people sure seem to ask a lot of really fucking specific questions that ruin the whole point of the experience IMO.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Yeah those are really cool. Especially the multi-part ones like you mentioned.

One thing that is actively breaking immersion for me is people who won't shut up about the more infrequent large scale events in map chat. In Blazeridge Steppes: "When's the boss coming?" "boss spawned yet?" "has the pre-event for the boss started yet?" - drives me nuts.

I finally had to ask someone how to filter that talk out. For a game centered around exploration and "spontaneous" events and finding stuff on your own, people sure seem to ask a lot of really fucking specific questions that ruin the whole point of the experience IMO.

Yeah I constantly only have guild chat on, I don;t look at map/local chat unless someone's rezzing me and I'm thanking the person or so. Otherwise, guild-chat only.
 
So much dislike for mesmer class :(

The start is eye gouging torture but it gets a lot more fun later on.

I actually came to this thread to post about how I'm kind of sort of not enjoying myself in Guild Wars 2. It must be because I am a Mesmer.

Seriously, I am level 18, the only quests I have available are for level 21+. My choice is basically to grind out one monster at a time, since that's about the maximum I can face safely, or try to complete quests above my level, which hasn't been working out too well.
 

Grayman

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I actually came to this thread to post about how I'm kind of sort of not enjoying myself in Guild Wars 2. It must be because I am a Mesmer.

Seriously, I am level 18, the only quests I have available are for level 21+. My choice is basically to grind out one monster at a time, since that's about the maximum I can face safely, or try to complete quests above my level, which hasn't been working out too well.
you have some options:

go to another 15-20 area
do dynamic events in the one you are in again
explore your area around other entrances(sometimes you miss low level areas)
go to the level 21 area and sneak around until you see a big group of 40 doing events and tag along
craft
personal story if not up to date
 

Juice

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Yeah I am enjoying the hell out of the game. I suppose my biggest complaint is that WvWvW is really frustrating in how inconsistent my experiences have been. Sometimes epic battles for control points ensue. Usually it's just lame head-on zerging in the plains.

I'd say I've only enjoyed 30% of my WvWvW sessions, which is low given the hour queues.
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I actually came to this thread to post about how I'm kind of sort of not enjoying myself in Guild Wars 2. It must be because I am a Mesmer.

Seriously, I am level 18, the only quests I have available are for level 21+. My choice is basically to grind out one monster at a time, since that's about the maximum I can face safely, or try to complete quests above my level, which hasn't been working out too well.

There is never ever a reason to grind monsters in Guild Wars 2.

Yeah those are really cool. Especially the multi-part ones like you mentioned.

One thing that is actively breaking immersion for me is people who won't shut up about the more infrequent large scale events in map chat. In Blazeridge Steppes: "When's the boss coming?" "boss spawned yet?" "has the pre-event for the boss started yet?" - drives me nuts.

I finally had to ask someone how to filter that talk out. For a game centered around exploration and "spontaneous" events and finding stuff on your own, people sure seem to ask a lot of really fucking specific questions that ruin the whole point of the experience IMO.

Because in the end, people still want a mechanical experience, not a dynamic one. Guarantees are something gamers have come to expect.
 
you have some options:

go to another 15-20 area
do dynamic events in the one you are in again
explore your area around other entrances(sometimes you miss low level areas)
go to the level 21 area and sneak around until you see a big group of 40 doing events and tag along
craft
personal story if not up to date

Best option would probably be to go to another 15-25 area. I'll have to search for one. I've done almost all of the events I've been able to find in the area I am in and don't feel like doing them over again.


There is never ever a reason to grind monsters in Guild Wars 2.

Because in the end, people still want a mechanical experience, not a dynamic one. Guarantees are something gamers have come to expect.

That would be more apparent if following content leveled you up at the same pace you clear the content, but it doesn't. Basically since the beginning I've been clearing content and remained 2-3 levels behind where the recommended level for the content is. That's with crafting, and getting 100% on the areas I've been to thus far. SWTOR did a far better job of this. Completing all of the content in the zones you were presented with by your class quests basically ended up with you overleveled for the next set of content you faced, whereas in this game the virtual opposite is happening for me. In SWTOR I skipped whole zones because I was so overleveled for the content, whereas in this I find myself having to seek out more zones just to keep some fresh content in front of me. I find that annoying.
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Best option would probably be to go to another 15-25 area. I'll have to search for one. I've done almost all of the events I've been able to find in the area I am in and don't feel like doing them over again.

You should be moving on to new zones pretty often anyway. Get used to doing that later on as well.
 

Ferga

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I actually came to this thread to post about how I'm kind of sort of not enjoying myself in Guild Wars 2. It must be because I am a Mesmer.

Seriously, I am level 18, the only quests I have available are for level 21+. My choice is basically to grind out one monster at a time, since that's about the maximum I can face safely, or try to complete quests above my level, which hasn't been working out too well.

Are you managing your clones and shattering often?

That's the most important bit about mesmers since their auto attacks do little to no damage. Mind wreck does a lot of burst damage if you learn how to manage clones and phantasms. Don't let any of the clones just die by tanking monsters. Get the +15% mind wreck damage trait.

I can kill melee champions and veterans by myself.
 

Noaloha

Member
I definitely keep /say open. I find it odd that anyone would choose not to! It's not like it's a busy chat channel and when people are talking in there it's typically relevant to the event you're doing. Absolutely 100% screw the /map chat though, yeah.
 
Are you managing your clones and shattering often?

That's the most important bit about mesmers since their auto attacks do little to no damage. Mind wreck does a lot of burst damage if you learn how to manage clones and phantasms. Don't let any of the clones just die by tanking monsters. Get the +15% mind wreck damage trait.

I can kill melee champions and veterans by myself.

I only have like eight trait points total, so no. I put 5 points into Illusion to get the decreased cooldown on the illusion skills, and I'm deciding whether to go further into Illusion or Domination. And yes, Mind Wrack is being used. Killing a single enemy is simple, but if I run into groups of 2-3 that are my level I pretty much have to kill one and run.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Since we're talking mesmers, just want to say that I loooove my greatsword mesmer and am thrilled I chose it as my main alt.
 

Absinthe

Member
Any walkthroughs for the Mystic Forge? Have yet to use it and I have quite a few coins.

Being only level 32 will I even get something for my level?
 

Naix

Banned
Best option would probably be to go to another 15-25 area. I'll have to search for one. I've done almost all of the events I've been able to find in the area I am in and don't feel like doing them over again.

That would be more apparent if following content leveled you up at the same pace you clear the content, but it doesn't. Basically since the beginning I've been clearing content and remained 2-3 levels behind where the recommended level for the content is. That's with crafting, and getting 100% on the areas I've been to thus far. SWTOR did a far better job of this. Completing all of the content in the zones you were presented with by your class quests basically ended up with you overleveled for the next set of content you faced, whereas in this game the virtual opposite is happening for me. In SWTOR I skipped whole zones because I was so overleveled for the content, whereas in this I find myself having to seek out more zones just to keep some fresh content in front of me. I find that annoying.

Have you done all the starting zones ? Gives good xp and lots of materials for crafting.

I've completed 3 starting zones, the level 15-25 human zone, done a bit of crating, lots of WvWvW and I'm way overleveled (lvl 41 atm and my story mission is lvl 16)
 

Deitus

Member
Yeah I constantly only have guild chat on, I don;t look at map/local chat unless someone's rezzing me and I'm thanking the person or so. Otherwise, guild-chat only.

Personally, I have it all up, but I don't pay much attention to the chat window while I'm playing. Every now and then while I'm traveling or between events I'll pop in and wonder what's going on in Guild chat, and then maybe I'll happen to see some map chat and have to /sigh about their maturity level. But then the events start up and I'm too busy enjoying the game to chitchat. If I'm on mumble I might be a bit more talkative, but even then its more like minutes of silence followed by "I just did the most awesome event" or "dammit I went down and some guy just stepped on my body and then ran off without helping me".

Why did I subject myself to that GW2/WoW thread?

Yeah, I did the same. It should have been obvious how it was going to turn out within a few posts, but for some reason I subjected myself to it anyway.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Gah, trying to make all my 5 characters now, additionally to the 2 I had made right after launch, and coming up with not-taken celtic one-word names for my Sylvari is hard.
 
Gah, trying to make all my 5 characters now, additionally to the 2 I had made right after launch, and coming up with not-taken celtic one-word names for my Sylvari is hard.

nerd!

Go with household objects combined with a food description word like Cajun Lamp or Crunchy Bottle.
 
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