Kos Luftar
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We need to keep SBI defended and wreck ybs stuff nonstop. Even if we can't keep it long as long as it's paper it means we can take it whenever.
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Noisy Ninj4
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That's what I was doing for tonight. Mostly taking stuff in BLs so that YB can't hold onto it that well. Many yaks fell by my daggers.
Kos Luftar
Member
It is those little things that we forgot how to do because how much we outnumber the little teams that really messed us up this weekend.
Yesterday was a lot of fun. I spent all my time in EBay BL. In the morning was running around with Izzy from ANET, he was actually in TS commanding. He was so into it even had a timer set up to keep track of EBays response time. We only took a couple of towers with him but then he had to go. I logged off middway as well but when I came back we took EBay hills with KT and Abys, and we held on that for a long time. We had everyone escorting yaks, people watching the walls for attacks.
EBay would attack Hills to try and get it back, Yaks would attack SE tower...at the exact same time it was sad really that the only time they could do anything was when they gang up on us.
Loved hanging out in SE tower with a treb shooting down YB cats that were attacking the tower.
Left about midnight when the tide was just starting to turn in our favour and as soon as I woke up to get ready for work I went to the mos.millenium.org/na to find out how we were doing and I was so happy to see our BL all green, and extra happy to see YB BL almost all green.
It shows that they are mostly weekend warriors and we will most likely win this match up.
See you in a week, MIKTAR!
Lol YB is most definitely not going to win man, we have this match on lock
Spehornoob
Member
I finally jumped back in since the musical I was in is over (I'm manly like that).
I forgot how fun this game is. I've been playing WoW with my cousins and, while I don't hate it, I have so much more fun playing this. The LFG tool is a godsend, too.
I forgot how fun this game is. I've been playing WoW with my cousins and, while I don't hate it, I have so much more fun playing this. The LFG tool is a godsend, too.
Kos Luftar
Member
Welcome back. Just in time for the fractal update tomorrow. If your are not in the guild let us know and we will add you. (We haven't done a culling of inactive members but just incase).
Tomorrow's update will really be the test. We have a lot of dedicated Wubers these days that show up on new content day. We've had some close matchups against several servers that skyrocked to our favor once their militia support moved on to new content.
Spehornoob
Member
Thanks! I think I'm still in the guild. I'm definitely still in A guild since I saw chat happening and since GAF was the only guild I was ever in, I figure I'm probably still in.
Have they changed the balance on any of the explorable mode dungeons? They seem a ton more smooth than they did before. I'm having a blast!
I'm gonna die....
Principate
Saint Titanfall
TBF that's kinda the point, notice you can only use two types of consumables at once, one being food, the other being maintenance oils etc, you can have one of the other types as wells as food despite that has several versions and food only has one.
Still sharpening stuff etc are bonus as wells the normal crafting for said profession e.g runes, sigils armour and weapons, food serves only as a buff. Of course it's stronger it's the only purpose of the profession otherwise it'd be worthless.
what the hell is it? D: oh man what did i miss today?
hockeypuck
Member
Bah, seeing a Yak's Bend player using an alt account to suicide our omega golems parked in SBI citadel is discouraging. Then the guy has the gall to run with our zerg without any attempt to hide himself lol. First time I've witnessed firsthand how easy it is to grief in this PvP mode. Always hear about it, never seen it until now. Think I'm done with WvW for a while; I get enough salt with my meals, wish SBI the best of luck for the rest of the season.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That's nothing we had a bunch of outright cheaters in our borderlands capping our tier 3 garrison.
Plus they can get a hold of your servers ts information, and pretty much find out your tactics first hand.
Funny thing is Vizunah Fr has there's locked up tighter than fort knox supposedly when some entires they put them into a lobby where a commander then questions you and if you don't speak French it's often a TS ban.
When I heard that I was like damn that's some serious business.
Yeah, he came to YB borderland to suicide some golems too.
I think it's stupid. I'd prefer the profession removed or the food blocked from WvW. All it does is start an arms race. There's condition reduction food at least, but it'll always be worse than condition duration food because it'll only be useful against one type of build.
Not to mention that like runes, the specific food doesn't feel very balanced. It's one of those things that makes 90% of the other food options worthless in straight comparison and from a metagame perspective.
But I'm of the odd opinion that item buffs shouldn't be as strong or stronger than anything a character/class in your game can get naturally. In this case, I would have capped the duration to +20%.
Complistic
Member
eh, the only thing that upsets me is there's an actual human being on this earth, willing to buy an extra account in a video game just to harm an opposing team in a virtual battle. Then think that's healthy behavior.
let us do this. like olden times.
Is Toss coming back for more than 5 minutes this time?
irfaanator
Banned
no....maybe
Its funny that they put so many barriers in the way of people spending money in this game.
What do you mean markot?!
Well I will tell you!
You see, the gathering tools should be for all characters at all times, instead you have to juggle them. Why bother?
Pets? so pointless with their limitaitons and utter awfulness. Keep dissappearing, keep taking up inventory, keep getting sent to super bank... etc...
Great costumes that would look great in combat. PSYCHE! Town combat only, you know the stuff that no one does and isnt fun!
Great costumes you can only use once on one item!
The list goes on and on and onnnnnnnnnn.
They make so many stupid decisions that make spending money on some extras make it a bigger chore then not doing so. Reverse the polarity!
Also, the 40% increase to condition duration is ridonkydonki.
Its like a 100% increase in damage that a necro can do. 80% I guess.
Its stupid.
And I have a condition necro.
Conditioncro!
Shit like that is unbalancing. Instead of balancing a class, you are now balancing for these stupid exterior shits that shouldnt be part of it. Now they nerf condition necros, and you bet a big part of that is the stupid food buff which is just unbalacing.
Classes should be designed around their core functions and abilities, not on stupid extras they can get too.
Cause those extras shouldnt be there. The class should exist without it. And if that means cooking becomes useless? Well who the funk cares? I want a balanced game with 2134 specs viable with all weapons viable. But why would anyone go for anything but a condition necro? Its far and away the best choice. And eating some koi shouldnt be a consideration in that. Yet tis!
Food doesnt need to impact battle that much, or at all, to be useful. Why not magic find? Gold find? Xp increase? Buff those, remove the imbalancing shit.
Call me old fashioned too, but koi cake should not be as powerful as the scepter of the gods. Cause 40% increase to condition duration? Thats just nutella. (Loads of nuts smushed into one jar)
When the last time you saw an axe necro out there? Well necro? And instead of fixing those, we get a nerf to the only really viable spec, largely due to the damage increase of the foods.
Turrets are still useless a year after launch. Mantras are pantstras. You name it. All these things need fixing. They dont need the extra stress source in balancing that comes from foods and shit.
The more you add, the more complex, the less we get.
Combat should be about combat, not food, not these buffs we get from getting hit, not... etc...
All of those externalities are absurdities that add to the stupification and stratification of our lamentations.
Then again, coming from the coding curmudgeons that thought blood lust and orbs of power would be a good idea? I am obviously expecting too much.
Add more fluff! Eventually you wont even be able to see the classes!
What do you mean markot?!
Well I will tell you!
You see, the gathering tools should be for all characters at all times, instead you have to juggle them. Why bother?
Pets? so pointless with their limitaitons and utter awfulness. Keep dissappearing, keep taking up inventory, keep getting sent to super bank... etc...
Great costumes that would look great in combat. PSYCHE! Town combat only, you know the stuff that no one does and isnt fun!
Great costumes you can only use once on one item!
The list goes on and on and onnnnnnnnnn.
They make so many stupid decisions that make spending money on some extras make it a bigger chore then not doing so. Reverse the polarity!
Also, the 40% increase to condition duration is ridonkydonki.
Its like a 100% increase in damage that a necro can do. 80% I guess.
Its stupid.
And I have a condition necro.
Conditioncro!
Shit like that is unbalancing. Instead of balancing a class, you are now balancing for these stupid exterior shits that shouldnt be part of it. Now they nerf condition necros, and you bet a big part of that is the stupid food buff which is just unbalacing.
Classes should be designed around their core functions and abilities, not on stupid extras they can get too.
Cause those extras shouldnt be there. The class should exist without it. And if that means cooking becomes useless? Well who the funk cares? I want a balanced game with 2134 specs viable with all weapons viable. But why would anyone go for anything but a condition necro? Its far and away the best choice. And eating some koi shouldnt be a consideration in that. Yet tis!
Food doesnt need to impact battle that much, or at all, to be useful. Why not magic find? Gold find? Xp increase? Buff those, remove the imbalancing shit.
Call me old fashioned too, but koi cake should not be as powerful as the scepter of the gods. Cause 40% increase to condition duration? Thats just nutella. (Loads of nuts smushed into one jar)
When the last time you saw an axe necro out there? Well necro? And instead of fixing those, we get a nerf to the only really viable spec, largely due to the damage increase of the foods.
Turrets are still useless a year after launch. Mantras are pantstras. You name it. All these things need fixing. They dont need the extra stress source in balancing that comes from foods and shit.
The more you add, the more complex, the less we get.
Combat should be about combat, not food, not these buffs we get from getting hit, not... etc...
All of those externalities are absurdities that add to the stupification and stratification of our lamentations.
Then again, coming from the coding curmudgeons that thought blood lust and orbs of power would be a good idea? I am obviously expecting too much.
Add more fluff! Eventually you wont even be able to see the classes!
Cause theyre bad at designing things.
lazorexplosion
Member
Most food is balanced. It's only the condition duration foods (both increase and reduction) that are stupidly broken.
How can something so optional like food be balanced?
Kos Luftar
Member
WvW is really making me hate other players...it is getting too stressful. I keep wasting even more time at work constantly refreshing mos.millenium site for the score and anytime I see that we are not ticking high I get upset.
I'm just a sore loser. Reading all these posts on official forums about spying and sabotaging this morning has made me feel even worse because seems like SBI is getting demoralized.
I'm just a sore loser. Reading all these posts on official forums about spying and sabotaging this morning has made me feel even worse because seems like SBI is getting demoralized.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Umm what, who in WvW uses condition food. Ominberry is the default food for WvW because it heals you a 1000 each time you kill I've never been with a commander that drops a tray full of condition food because it really isn't that good...
If you enter WvW without ample condition removal then I don't know what to say.
Now if you said they should nerf omniberry then I could understand, but that condition and damage duration really isn't all that great for WvW. I mean seriously the hell are your guardians and necros even doing, clearly not their jobs.
Also Light fields projectile them if you can they exist for a reason. I have no idea why Conditions of all things would be the game-breaking part of foods, the game gives you ample ways to deal with them especially long duration over burst.
Anyway it's a gold sink, and god knows the game needs more of those not less.
Same reason why Siege costs money, upgrades cost money etc. It's a gold sink, they want you to constantly spend money.
Hence why most regular good commanders are poor as shit.
Kos Luftar
Member
I am trying to incite a gang up on FA next week. SBI + DB against FA. Just like YB and EBay did to us.
If this works we could still be #1 or at least tied for #1 with YB.
If this works we could still be #1 or at least tied for #1 with YB.
irfaanator
Banned
we can just pvp when Im done with this semester
Kos Luftar
Member
When will that be, my sweet saladToss-er?
I see. You're not looking at this from my perspective. Omnomberry Compote is what's primarily used for zergs I guess, but you forget about the other half of the game. Roamers to small scale combat to even some mid scale battles.
Check this: http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/12481
And compare to this: http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/12458
(Although surprisingly Veggie Pizza isn't going for as much as I thought it would anymore, it's still going for more than the Omnomberry)
I carry condition removal. I carry enough that I usually win most battles with Necros or manage to escape with my life. But I'm not thinking about just me. Hell, the reduction food is powerful enough to be about one utility slot worth of condition removal.
And don't talk to me about combo fields as I'm the combo field master. Also because light fields are primarily the domain of one class that, while popular, isn't always around.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
If your a roamer you should be moving in a group (ideally a well composed group), if your sniping a dolly those things don't matter anyway. The only time when what your talking about would important would be scouts, and by scouts I mean good scouts the ones that escort dollys and upgrade fortifications not simply checking for enemy movements (which again you don't need that for).
That's the only time it's really important, but even then if your built for 1v1 confrontations primarily you should be able to burst or hinder your opponent to the degree that the battle shouldn't last enough for the duration advantages to take effect.
Your talking like this is some big imbalance when it's really not, most players rarely even use food unless the commander gives it them and your talking about one scenario you can't avoid. Hell it's an expensive food like you said so even less will use it.
That's what I call making a mountain out of a mole hill.
So your response is that I'm roaming wrong. Got it. I have to wonder what your experiences in WvW are like. I mean, I know I'm lucky too. It's not like I run into people running Perplexity runes.
It's just that I don't see how anyone can see "+40% condition duration to ALL conditions", something that all of the class can only naturally get +30% of in particular builds, and can stack with that trait duration, as not OP.
Also, it looks like I was looking at the wrong condition duration food and the actual one has prices that make me go 'wow': http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/41565.
Demand is there.
And here's a sorted list of food used (not including feasts). Unfortunately recipes got included but you can scroll down past them: http://www.gw2spidy.com/type/3?sort...esc&rarity_filter=2&min_level=80&max_level=80
There's a bustling food economy going and it's primarily powered by WvW.
But whatever; this is why I prefer PvP to WvW.
irfaanator
Banned
couple weeks
Principate
Saint Titanfall
You should always roam in a group, it's a basic tier 1 world rule, some would even say it's detrimental for you to go off alone to test your luck on things, only under the best of circumstances would 1 or 2 man be able to capture, the advantage is scouting zergs, but unless your sniping dollys you should be in a group.
You don't expect 2 or 3 people to be able to efficiently cap towers so why would you expect 1 person to effectively roam. WvW is inherently unbalanced that's the point of the mode, it's allows you to bring almost everything useable in PvE into it, it's why you can use racial skills, it's why you can use mystfire wolf, it's the reason for most things.
You create effective tactical work around to these, I just don't see the point about complaining about one section that really doesn't affect the rest of the game mode and ignoring everything else. Especially when the likelihood of you coming across one section is rare.
Things like toxic npc's have a greater effect on WvW than that one expensive food.
1. Not everyone is playing Tier 1, not everyone is playing prime time, not everyone is... I could go on.
2. I was complaining about one particular thing that bugged me more than the rest. There are a ton of things in WvW that bug me. I play WvW in spite of all these things. When it gets too much I just play PvE or PvP for a while instead. If I'm bugged by all three modes I don't play the game at all for a couple days or a few weeks. I usually keep these rants to myself.
But I suppose the food thing is bugging me even more than usual these days. One example is that the Edge of the Mists testers included (I think) all of the popular food choices for free but didn't include all of the armor choices. Not even all of the crafted armor choices. Not even all of the PvP amulet choices. But they brought in that food along with maintenance whatevers.
To be fair to them, it looked like the level up/armor system put in was a hack that took extra time and effort for each stat combination (for what was a quick and dirty test), and the game has a lot of stat combinations.
There was a post on the reddit GW2 sub yesterday about Conditionmancers and how "OP" they are in WvW for roaming(+100% condi duration). I think the issue is that for most people roaming they aren't going to be using the food they would necessarily use for outright zerging(which is currently the condi reduction food; used to be omnom compote). The playstyle is pretty much night and day, honestly much like how tPvP vs WvW plays.
I like both styles, but I can't help but feel like food probably shouldn't have been allowed in WvW(perhaps just the +power, +precision stones).
I like both styles, but I can't help but feel like food probably shouldn't have been allowed in WvW(perhaps just the +power, +precision stones).
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Who said anything about prime time, the reason I mentioned Tier 1 is because it's the most effect way to do things, if you don't things the most effective way then you should expect to get punished. You don't hang out near the enemy spawn point and expect not to get ganked/out numbered.
You don't roam alone and expect to not to at all meet someone who can directly counter your build. It's common sense to go with the most efficient method and when you don't expect things to not always go your way. With a mode that has as many variables as WvW, things aren't going to be balanced nor are they supposed to be. That's my point. The only time they should really be alteedr is if it's something easily abuseable that affects most aspects of the match up and can cause your world to lose
Kos Luftar
Member
See you online tonight?
Not tonight, but probably sometime this week.
On my T1 server commanders typically drop trays of Omnomberry Compote, Rare Veggie Pizza, and most importantly Lemongrass Poultry soup. The latter is key against necro-heavy blobs (though I personally take the Omnomberry on my warrior).
You guys should listen to this when fighting yaks bend!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJIIPA-EOP4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJIIPA-EOP4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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