Haha, oh my god, it's really infamous, isn't it? I randomly found it and I decided to give it a try, but it was just really frustrating that I had to retry so many sections when I failed a jump.
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Haha, oh my god, it's really infamous, isn't it? I randomly found it and I decided to give it a try, but it was just really frustrating that I had to retry so many sections when I failed a jump.
shysaursoft
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It was the first one I ever did, the first one my friends and better half ever did, and we all did first time fine..
So I think it's easy. Especially if you just go in the back way and do the non-trap route.Squall ASF
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Miktar, how do you re-roll Ascended stats?
It's hilarious to me that Nike just said "Raids will be like dungeons but with 10 people instead of 5". Why do people listen to him again? He's making a wide array of assumptions about how they'll work because "he knows how the engine works". Has this guy ever heard of mechanics? Will you be able to stack? Sure. Will you be able to stack constantly? No, probably not. Just looking at that one image we have of the engineer boss, there's at least 5+ AoEs on the ground and players have some kind of mark on them. I think it's safe to say that ANet will have designed the raids to break up stacking. Afterall, mechanics is what makes encounters interesting/fun, it's when they're devoid of this (see nearly every dungeon in the game), that stacking is possible. Talking about what is meta, before any final class balance is achieved, let alone before even seeing what the raid is like mechanically, is just pointless IMO.
shysaursoft
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You buy the Anthology of Heroes from the Mystic Forge vendor for 10 shards. Works for weapons too, you just use an Ori Imbued Inscription instead.
Also, I just saw someone asking on reddit "Why am I leveling so fast?". It wasn't a complaint either, just a free player utterly dumbstruck at how easy and fast levelling is in GW2, especially compared to other f2p games where there are restrictions or diminishing returns on XP.
Makes me feel good.
I see this in almost every online game that changes dynamics and stats a lot - some people just really want to be 'on top of things' long before the changes are even made, and people like Nike use this to stay relevant and popular. It's just a natural part of the system, really. A bit dumb sometimes, sure, but eh.
RPGCrazied
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Geeze, this game is massive, almost 18gb downloaded and still not done. I know I can play now an stream the rest, but I want it all on my harddrive for better performance.
shysaursoft
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Full game is around 24GB, according to my install.
shysaursoft
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I'd love an SSD, when they stop being more expensive than a piece of gold the same size as it. >..> Right now, SSD is solidly in the 'rich gamer with money to burn' bracket.
LumpOfCole
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Bruh you don't even need an expensive one, just stick this in your machine, put Windows and GW2 on it and thank me later.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S9Q9UKS/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I mean $50 dollars goddam
No way man, an SSD will save you a lot of time in every single thing you do on your PC. Windows boots in seconds, every program just snaps open, open world games load so damn quickly. The difference between HDD and SSD for GW2 is like 56k vs Broadband. And as Lamp said, they're really cheap now.
shysaursoft
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Okay, that's cheaper than the last time I looked (still $50 more than I can afford right now). I'll have to put that on my wishlist and hope for christmas or something.
Can't put Windows on it though, Windows 10 will deactivate. I'd have to reinstall 7, then upgrade to 10, then reinstall 10. Stupid Microsoft.
Don't really need to speed up Windows boot time anyway. Less than 15 seconds from cold boot to desktop. But for GW2, man. That would be nice.
Funny you should post that, I was just talking about that exact rotation to friend, and how it's a good example of theorycrafting vs reality.
That rotation is, on paper, the most optional damage output if you hit all the cooldowns perfectly and don't die while going through the rotation.
Whereas in-game, due to changing battle conditions, things that need to be dodged, or blocked, or reflected, or pulled, and so fourth, I find it very unlikely anyone will ever manage to do that full rotation even once, unhindered. I actually tried it for a while for the lols, and it was so unnatural, I think I became the worst Engineer in the game for a while. While conceptually I get why someone would want to do an optimal rotation like that, it really is pure theory in my book.
Unless the tank does his job, of course, leaving the DPS to play with their tinkertoy macros.*
*Sarcasm.
All dungeons are 100% optional, and act as a side-story. I'd recommend doing them when you hit the levels for them, if just because they're actually pretty cool, and I'm sure you can find GAF people to tag along and explain things. They're not overly complex though.
As for the story (called Personal Story), it has 'chapters' that unlock at specific levels (every 10 levels) - you'll be told where to go and who to see when the time is right. I recommend playing the start( it's a little instanced zone), then following the in-game guide arrow and exploring the starter zone. You can go to any race's starter zones, so if you feel overlevelled for one zone but underlevelled for another, explore the other starter zones.
I find the Personal Story pretty good, but it changes depending on what race you pick, and what choices you pick while making your character. They all end up in the same place eventually, with some branches based on choices. Some paths are more interesting than others, based on personal tastes.
You'll see these gold Renown Hearts on the map. Just to note, they are aren't 'quests', just areas where stuff happens and when you complete some objectives, a vendor unlocks under the heart. Dynamic Events (think FATES) happen all around the world, hooking up with one is a great way to level, and they're often part of a chain. There are no quest NPCs with ! over their heads, basically, there /are/ no quests. Just stuff to do.
So when you find a heart, check the top right of the UI and see what it wants. Dynamic Events often start at hearts or move past them, tag along with one if you spot them (you'll see a notification that there is one near, or happening).
Gotta warn you though. GW2 and FFXIV are almost polar opposites in a lot of ways, so try to approach GW2 with a "Beginner's Mind", and don't expect it to behave like FFXIV.
GW2 gaf still trying to convince people that hearts are anything other than shitty quests?
So that raiding post sounds really vague, but almost like they're embracing that there needs to be some sort of roles/trinity setup, will check them out if that's the case. If not it's gonna have the same awful problems as the dungeons, but the blog post sounds like they're embracing some trinity action.
shysaursoft
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I know I shouldn't bother, since you've made it clear over the last three years you're nothing but a career troll when it comes to GW2... (and did you have to quote the ENTIRE damn post, instead of just the single sentence you take issue with?)
But I never said hearts are good, or bad. Just that they are what they are - points of interests, with activities, acting as a lure for players to get them to move around the map and ideally, make them bump into Dynamic Events. The hearts also act as texture to the map, giving context to things.
Still beats the fuck out of going from ! NPC to ! NPC, clicking through fucktons of text that all end in 'kill 10 rats' or 'find 1000 zhevra hooves', in my opinion. I think hearts are halfway to a good idea, but by themselves, no, I don't think they're anything other than a different quest context. Nor do I think they're a marked improvement to the idea of a quest hub structure. But I think they're an okay alternative.
Let's keep the shitposting to a minimum, okay?
Relax with some pretty nature shots.
48 was my record.
LETS GET TOGETHER AND BEAT THE 72 HOURS BAR.
by the way.
how long would it take to get from 435 to 500 on crafting?
i dont have much to do so i decided on trying to ascend my weapon.
shysaursoft
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Either very long, or very expensive, or somewhere in the middle. 450 to 500 is hellishly expensive unless you go get the mats yourself, which takes time. But it depends on which one you're looking at.
Weaponcrafting, for example, from 400 to 500 is around 124g.
http://gw2crafts.net/ is a good site to check.
Squall ASF
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Yeah, it's painfully obvious it's going to play differently than anything else in the game. It's certainly going to combine elements from both dungeons and fractals, but they are going to make Raids their own by incorporating masteries including some exclusive to Raids and adding dynamic events that you don't see in instanced missions/dungeons anywhere else. The scale will be grander, the bosses more creative, and the content harder than anything else (well, don't know how lvl 50 fractal will be but you get the idea).
You buy the Anthology of Heroes from the Mystic Forge vendor for 10 shards. Works for weapons too, you just use an Ori Imbued Inscription instead.
Thanks! Appreciate you bringing that to me as I'm at work. That's a nice feature! No long term regrets.
Not So Secret, the Aetherblade one? OMG XD
Top 3 toughest out of the ~50 in the game, hahaha.
Were AoE targetting circles ever meant to be skill based? Like, they ended up that way, but considering that we tab target and projectiles auto-aim for us...
I'm having the same dilemma Warrior wise. Right now, my build is Sword/Warhorn + Longbow and it's really tight with Arms/Tactics/Discipline. I use Signets over Shouts too. It feels balanced between offensive ability, defensive ability, and support/utility. Right now, I'm trying to decide between dropping Arms or Discipline. Discipline with Burst Mastery means that you'll always have a full bar while in Berserker mode (level 3 will give you 10 adrenaline which is the max for Berserker). Arms and Furious (one of my favorite traits) will also keep adrenaline high. I probably don't need both, so I guess I should drop Discipline, the only worry really is Fast Hands. Whether or not I care for Fast Hands will be 100% based on how easy it is to rack up damage with Longbow Burst, or if I'll just have a different offhand and use mostly just Sword/Torch while in Berserker.
I also really want to use Powerful Synergy with the Torch field...
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Kos Luftar
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Anyone expecting waypoints in the raids?
What do you want to happen after a group wipe? Just respawn from closest checkpoint, respawn at beginning of raid, respawn at entrencr and progress reset?
What do you want to happen after a group wipe? Just respawn from closest checkpoint, respawn at beginning of raid, respawn at entrencr and progress reset?
Wiping in a raid will delete your character.
(Real Answer: probably waypoints scattered throughout)
One step closer to Siege Turtles in WvW.
Well its still a mmo underneath everything. If you aren't into that then there's only so much a game can do. But in the simplest terms, GW2's combat system is what sets it a part in the gameplay dept. On top of that you have scale down/up system, everyone partied pve, no gear treadmill, etc.
Its hard to tell you what to do. I Love the game, but I haven't enjoyed leveling a new character under either of the new leveling systems. On my alt account recently, things felt so restrictive that I ended up just using Tomes of Knowledge from pvp and the login rewards to get to 80. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I never felt that way leveling up under the old book/skill point system years ago. I had access to everything and everywhere for better or worse. I pretty much jumped into SBI's BL as a clueless level 30 and the WvWers at the time were friendly enough back then to just carry me along. Probably not so much these days, and EotM chat is probably the worst thing you'll ever see in the game.
Saw it and cringed. Of course they want it to be like the current dungeons cause thats their thing. People on that sub/forums see that stuff, believe its holds true for everything in the game, and start the 'necro/rangers suck, woe!" That aside, even if ANet would change the limit on boons, they'd still run the 'optimal' classes anyway.
Depends on how difficult ANet really wants it to be. A wipe or failure resetting the raid would take us back to 1999. But I'd guess a checkpoint after every boss. Waypoints/relogging could lead to something like the Mai Trin exploit.
Well its still a mmo underneath everything. If you aren't into that then there's only so much a game can do. But in the simplest terms, GW2's combat system is what sets it a part in the gameplay dept. On top of that you have scale down/up system, everyone partied pve, no gear treadmill, etc.
Its hard to tell you what to do. I Love the game, but I haven't enjoyed leveling a new character under either of the new leveling systems. On my alt account recently, things felt so restrictive that I ended up just using Tomes of Knowledge from pvp and the login rewards to get to 80. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I never felt that way leveling up under the old book/skill point system years ago. I had access to everything and everywhere for better or worse. I pretty much jumped into SBI's BL as a clueless level 30 and the WvWers at the time were friendly enough back then to just carry me along. Probably not so much these days, and EotM chat is probably the worst thing you'll ever see in the game.
i totally dont have that money...
i think its time to make a visit to orr... ;-; again.
shysaursoft
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If your goal is an ascended weapon, you could run Fractals instead, or do PVP for the weapon chests. If you don't get the stat set you want, you can convert it using a new item from the mystic forge vendor.
I suspect it might be the class you're playing. If the class isn't fun to play for it's own sake, perhaps try another? Try another race too - each race's starting area is very different, and a different one might suit you better, get you into the groove.
Mr_Antimatter
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Another dark skinned norn eh? Nice to finally have some company.
i thin i'll do that! thank you based Miktar!
wha. $150 is all you need nowadays.
edit: didn't see the one Lump posted that's only $50.
Shit, I'd chip in money to get you an SSD. These things are life changers.
shysaursoft
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So I've heard. I'm going to try and put away some money over the next few months to perhaps get one by Christmas - but I got a move coming up so I gotta be super frugal.
UltimateIke
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I think Sword/Sword and Mace/Torch could get some use together. Light yourself on fire with Flames of War, use the Mace Primal Burst for a blast finisher in the fire field plus put out a ton of conditions, then swap to Sword/Sword and get your leap finisher in too. Could still do Sword/Warhorn for another blast finisher as well, but I like Sword/Sword getting the Dual Wielding attack speed bonus, which I am hoping stacks with the Berserker attack speed bonus.
A bit more than a year ago they introduced what they called the 'new player experience' completely streamlining level 1-15 because new players supposedly felt completely lost when trying the game, which makes it 'GW2 for dummies'.
So if you've played any kind of MMO before it will certainly feel like the worse part of the game.
Give it at least a few more levels.
As for Nike's post on reddit, you can say whatever you want and scoff at it, but until we've actually played raids and see how they play-out we are all speculating.
Right now with how little we know there is a whole row of red flags surrounding Raids, even if we're only talking about how they will balance them.
Right now the 'meta' concerning classes is marginal at best because whatever you run you'll be able to complete the content.
Raids, will have a more elitist component to them at their core, so any existing issue, or issues that may arise with the content are worth discussing, because if one or more class ends up being sub-par in this type of content, whichever it ends-up being it will matter.
He is in the end advocating for making sure every class has an actual place in the content, even for min maxers, sure with his own twist on it, but that's, I believe something we can all get behind.
Noisy Ninj4
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My norn ranger is big, black, and angry looking.
Hurray! I bought my first exotic set for Necro in WvW years ago and it has Strength runes in it, been holding it for this very day!!
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/wuv/WvW-gear-salvage/first#post5452392
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/wuv/WvW-gear-salvage/first#post5452392
shysaursoft
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The *really excellent* website gw2efficiency.com now also lets you see and share your build.
It's a really useful site for keeping track of all your characters, which ones have the permanent tools, your bank, materials, wardrobe, wallet, and so fourth. You can even share links to your characters if you want.
It's basically like the WoW armoury, but third party.
An example, gaze upon my derpy main: http://gw2efficiency.com/c/Beast Brokenclaw
(I hope they add 3D models soon)
It's a really useful site for keeping track of all your characters, which ones have the permanent tools, your bank, materials, wardrobe, wallet, and so fourth. You can even share links to your characters if you want.
It's basically like the WoW armoury, but third party.
An example, gaze upon my derpy main: http://gw2efficiency.com/c/Beast Brokenclaw
(I hope they add 3D models soon)
I've been mulling over Nike's post as well and I disagree with him, but I won't say he's wrong or that his suggestion is necessarily a bad idea for the scenario he has stated (which has a moderate chance of occurring). Essentially he's advocating buffing classes by increasing the number of targets for certain beneficial effects in order to make them more valuable. This checks out, as buffing classes that lack strong group support or nerfing those that are too strong are the standard options to solve an issue like this.
My issue isn't so much with that post he made in particular, but what he's said regarding raiding in the past and the implications it has on this suggestion. He's stated several times that for CGC (now raids) in order for it to actually be challenging it must be aimed at what is optimal otherwise the challenge will be trivial. This means its balanced against ascended rather than exotic, etc. The implication then is that he wants raids to be balanced against an ideal party, which with his proposed changes would include one of most classes for their unique passive buffs. So rather than having a party stacked with classes that are in the current meta, we'd have a more even distribution. Of these choices the more even distribution is preferable because it allows a wider variety of classes to experience the content.
However, his suggestion ignores the fact that in the past ANet has pushed for malleable group makeup because they don't want the problem of waiting to enjoy content where you have to wait for your tank to get on or everything falls apart because your healer's kid got sick. If they follow Nike's suggestion and tune the content to match, it will create that exact problem, only instead of having a pool of classes that can fill a role we'd need to wait for several specific classes instead which is worse. I'd say the aspects that lend credence to his argument are his reputation as a dungeon runner/analyst and the scenario he has constructed here based on existing content. He's pulling from existing data which should lend credence to his argument, but he is also ignoring the fact that at the PAX panel they repeated that they still wanted team composition to be malleable. That you can take the class you want and fit them to the necessary role. For the brief few minutes I watched the post PAX stream with DnT, Nike didn't seem too pleased with this.
Since I am decidedly a casual style player I am in favor of the flexibility Arenanet has stated will exist. Since Nike wants content that will be challenging to the min-max speedrun crowd he wants content tuned to what is optimal which will necessarily lead to optimal teams. So I (and I assume many others in this thread) want something diametrically opposed to what Nike wants. If ANet fails to make their ideal a reality and it turns out the content is only doable by a specific meta team that only includes a few classes they should probably take his suggestion. Otherwise, if they succeed they shouldn't need to.
It's true that we're all speculating at the moment, but I feel like he's jumping the gun and making too many assumptions based on existing content. The post said to take it with a grain of salt, but from the responses he'd made last night to people questioning him, he seems to fully believe that what he's stated is completely true. Or maybe I'm mischaracterizing him, I can't be sure.
Yeah this site is so good now. Ever since they added basically a very detailed investment tracking system I've used it for basically everything GW2 related.
Dead Prince
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it's finally the weekend well after i get off. plan to stay up again.
Donate towards my Patreon of getting a SSD and I will join all your dungeon groups!
It really does make an enormous difference.
Since we are dropping helpfull advice and/or tools i thought i would contribute something
It is a link to a forum post with links to all the diferent maps and outlines the most efficient route to clearing it for map completion .
ive been using it for a while now and it works pretty great .
since the post is 2 years old some of the placement of the icons has been altered in game or moved places but you will still come across all of them when following the route .
New players should not really follow it though since it is much more fun to go explore for yourself .
http://www.darkronins.shivtr.com/forum_threads/1456052
It is a link to a forum post with links to all the diferent maps and outlines the most efficient route to clearing it for map completion .
ive been using it for a while now and it works pretty great .
since the post is 2 years old some of the placement of the icons has been altered in game or moved places but you will still come across all of them when following the route .
New players should not really follow it though since it is much more fun to go explore for yourself .
http://www.darkronins.shivtr.com/forum_threads/1456052
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