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[Mesoian]

What are you referring to here?

For example, against a dashing in Ino.

Ino dashes in from full screen, fausts moves up, I-no attacks while in mid air with j.H. If Faust pops the kancho overdrive causing the actual j.H to whiff, what USED to happen is that INO falls on the scapel and it gets counted as a counter hit overdrive. What happens now is that INO blocks low after the whiff and just blocks it, which renders the really great stuff you used to be able with Faust pointless.

This was my Faust game in GGXX:R. I made it work 95% of the time. Now it just doesn't work at all. And that's terrible.

 

[Isotope]

http://a.pomf.se/ldvfqi.webm

Faust is the best

 

[Volcynika]

I hate Faust. Mostly because of Mesoian.

 

[Prototype]

Speaking of tiers, what do they look like for Xrd? I play Ino and Millia.

 

[PrankT]

I enjoy fighting games but am extremely bad at them, particularly combos. I liked Guilty Gear X2 on Xbox...will this game still be fun or shame me if I try to play it?

 

[Mesoian]

I'm playing against a Leo right now, are all Leo's attacks high?

 

[ScraftyDevil]

Amazon just changed the expected delivery date of my collector's edition from December 23rd to January 5th, even though I paid for same-day delivery. Did the CE get slapped with another holdup or is something else up?

 

[Volcynika]

Amazon just changed the expected delivery date of my collector's edition from December 23rd to January 5th, even though I paid for same-day delivery. Did the CE get slapped with another holdup or is something else up?

Sounds like something else. Aksys has made no mention of any further delays.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

Sounds like something else. Aksys has made no mention of any further delays.

If I don't get an update by next Monday I might just cancel my order and re-order with my free two-day shipping option. Paying an extra 10 bucks only to have to wait another two weeks is preposterous.

 

[SixMachine]

I enjoy fighting games but am extremely bad at them, particularly combos. I liked Guilty Gear X2 on Xbox...will this game still be fun or shame me if I try to play it?

There seems to be some short and damaging combos in this game if you want to use them. If you find one bnb you can probably figure out where to go from there, since combo length isn't too insane in this game compared to BB and especially Marvel. Of course if you want long optimized combos or want to style, that option is open to you.

 

[Uthred]

Speaking of tiers, what do they look like for Xrd? I play Ino and Millia.

-Ver. 1.04-

Kiisha’s GGXrd tier list
S Sol, Zato, Faust, Ramlethal
S- Chipp, Millia
A Ky, May, Axl, Slayer
B Bedman, I-No, Venom
C Potemkin

Woshige's GGXrd tier list (*Note: He mention that he has not had much experience against Zato-1 and Axl Low )

S Faust, Millia, Chipp Zanuff, Ramlethal, Zato-One
A Sol, Ky
B I-No, Slayer, Venom, Potemkin, Bedman, May
C Axl-Low

Ogawa's GGXrd tier list

S Millia, Zato, Faust, Ramlethal

A I-No, Sol=Ky, Chipp=Venom
B Everyone else

Efute's GGXrd tier list

S Faust, Millia, Ram,

A Chipp, Sol, Zato, Ky

B Bedman, Ino, May, Venom, Slayer, Axl, Pot

-Console-

Ogawa's GGXrd tier list
S Zato > Millia
A+ Ramlethal > Elphelt > Faust
A I-no=Venom=Sol=Ky
B+ Rest

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9544-xrd-tier-discussion/

 

[gundamkyoukai]

So does gaf have a room set up that i can play with u guys ?

 

[Volcynika]

If I don't get an update by next Monday I might just cancel my order and re-order with my free two-day shipping option. Paying an extra 10 bucks only to have to wait another two weeks is preposterous.

Maybe contact Amazon and see if they can help? Sounds really weird.

 

[SixMachine]

So does gaf have a room set up that i can play with u guys ?

Where do you live? I got some pretty crap internet but if you are near Texas I can play you.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Where do you live? I got some pretty crap internet but if you are near Texas I can play you.

i live very far from texas lol.
From the Caribbean , Barbados

 

[SixMachine]

i live very far from texas lol.
From the Caribbean , Barbados

Damn, it probably won't work too well then.

Google Fiber is coming to Austin, I just hope it eventually reaches my neighborhood. My internet connection makes me annoyed when I play other people.

 

[Essay]

For example, against a dashing in Ino.

Ino dashes in from full screen, fausts moves up, I-no attacks while in mid air with j.H. If Faust pops the kancho overdrive causing the actual j.H to whiff, what USED to happen is that INO falls on the scapel and it gets counted as a counter hit overdrive.

I've played this matchup to death since AC and never ever got hit out of dash overheads by it. There was like a 12 frame window to safe jump it. It would only win if I wiffed j.HS and attempted to go low or throw. The frame data on the super seems to be the same as well between Xrd and +R, so I think the real change you're feeling here is the fact that I-No doesn't have to dash as long for j.HS to come out in this version, which makes it a legit mixup + safejump option. Whereas before, if you saw the j.HS, chances are that it was because they were wiffing it and following up with a 2K or 4/6HS, which is what I assume you were counter-hitting. (?)

EDIT: Just tested in +R. Even if it's in the middle of the active frames, I can still wiff my j.HS and block. Whoever you were playing must have just been hitting buttons.

 

[RoryDropkick]

Just picked up the LE version at a local Gamestop. PS3 ver. Hope to play it some tonight.

 

[wwm0nkey]

Just picked up the LE version at a local Gamestop. PS3 ver. Hope to play it some tonight.

Limited Edition came in!?

 

[Hellshingu]

Just picked up the LE version at a local Gamestop. PS3 ver. Hope to play it some tonight.

LE??? I just checked for the LE and there's no stores that have it in stock...

 

[Mesoian]

I'll make a GAF room in a minute

Edit:

District 1A New England 4.

 

[xezuru]

LE??? I just checked for the LE and there's no stores that have it in stock...

I'm guessing LE editions are finally shipping (late cause of Cali dock strikes / slated for the 23rd) but since standard edition street date is already up, once they get stock they just straight up sell em, don't think my store has em yet.

 

[Prototype]

-Ver. 1.04-

Kiisha’s GGXrd tier list
S Sol, Zato, Faust, Ramlethal
S- Chipp, Millia
A Ky, May, Axl, Slayer
B Bedman, I-No, Venom
C Potemkin

Woshige's GGXrd tier list (*Note: He mention that he has not had much experience against Zato-1 and Axl Low )

S Faust, Millia, Chipp Zanuff, Ramlethal, Zato-One
A Sol, Ky
B I-No, Slayer, Venom, Potemkin, Bedman, May
C Axl-Low

Ogawa's GGXrd tier list

S Millia, Zato, Faust, Ramlethal

A I-No, Sol=Ky, Chipp=Venom
B Everyone else

Efute's GGXrd tier list

S Faust, Millia, Ram,

A Chipp, Sol, Zato, Ky

B Bedman, Ino, May, Venom, Slayer, Axl, Pot

-Console-

Ogawa's GGXrd tier list
S Zato > Millia
A+ Ramlethal > Elphelt > Faust
A I-no=Venom=Sol=Ky
B+ Rest

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9544-xrd-tier-discussion/

Nice thanks man, damn. My brother plays Sol.. I'm beating him right now but he's got better execution then me.

 

[Essay]

I'll make a GAF room in a minute

Edit:

District 1A New England 4.

Let's test that scalpel super!

 

[ScraftyDevil]

I'm guessing LE editions are finally shipping (late cause of Cali dock strikes / slated for the 23rd) but since standard edition street date is already up, once they get stock they just straight up sell em, don't think my store has em yet.

In that case, it might just be easier for me to go out searching for the LE in stores rather than waiting two weeks for my Amazon copy to arrive -_-;

 

[Hellshingu]

In that case, it might just be easier for me to go out searching for the LE in stores rather than waiting two weeks for my Amazon copy to arrive -_-;

I just checked amazon right now and they said they are in stock and if I order today its guaranteed delivery by the 23rd

 

[Seven Force]

What in the actual fuck, I've been to five Gamestops today, and none of them had the PS4 version in stock.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

I just checked amazon right now and they said they are in stock and if I order today its guaranteed delivery by the 23rd

Bizarre. May I ask where you're situated? I'm up in Canada, so that might be part of the problem.

 

[fader]

Faust is the best.

lude...

is it me? or does it seem like she enjoyed it?

 

[wwm0nkey]

What in the actual fuck, I've been to five Gamestops today, and none of them had the PS4 version in stock.

Most only got 1 of each. didn't think they expected to sell well

 

[Hellshingu]

Bizarre. May I ask where you're situated? I'm up in Canada, so that might be part of the problem.

I'm in Southern California about 45-50 miles from the pier. I also have a distribution warehouse about 25 mins away I think which is probably why it's showing able to be delivered so soon. I cancelled my preorder because I got a copy at gamestop on the 10th of the month. I think I might just pick up the LE too.

 

[Seven Force]

Most only got 1 of each. didn't think they expected to sell well

Yeah, I figured it'd be a low print run, considering it's GG and all, but I still hoped against hope that I'd be able to get it today (payday!), at least. Had to cancel the pre-order I had because of other financial obligations.

 

[ZeroX03]

What don't you like about them? I have been thinking of purchasing the HRAP.

The Kuro buttons are extremely mushy and tend to stay depressed, not to mention they make this hideous noise I'll link below. Give me Sanwa/Seimitsu any day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_vtJShSZEo

Skip to 1:00

 

[Isotope]

lude...

is it me? or does it seem like she enjoyed it?

Well, it IS I-No. Considering she says stuff like this:

It's not surprise she'd enjoy it.

 

[RoryDropkick]

Limited Edition came in!?

At least in Texas it did. I got a call about 4 pm CST this afternoon, went there and they had a stack ready for purchase and some aside for preorders.

 

[Uthred]

The Kuro buttons are extremely mushy and tend to stay depressed, not to mention they make this hideous noise I'll link below. Give me Sanwa/Seimitsu any day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_vtJShSZEo

Skip to 1:00

Havent had any issues with Kuro's either staying depressed or making a hideous noise, dont think theyre mushy either, though they certainly offer more tactile feedback than Sanwas, a more positive review of the buttons here - http://shoryuken.com/2014/02/24/srklabs-review-hori-hayabusa-and-kuro/ and a review thread with generally favourable impressions of Kuros http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/188878/hori-kuro-unboxing-no-mods and some more commentary on the buttons here - http://www.levelup-series.com/hori-innovates-once-again/#prettyPhoto

 

[Mesoian]

Let's test that scalpel super!

Okay, I opened it back up.

Again, New England 1a, lobby 4,

 

[shadowstar]

I agree, that's why I think games should be fun to play or have some other draw besides "pure competition" and "drive for self improvement". Helps the less dedicated players stick around and get better. Like me, hah!

Those games exist. People should play those instead of whining about the ones they can't play.

 

[Hellshingu]

At least in Texas it did. I got a call about 4 pm CST this afternoon, went there and they had a stack ready for purchase and some aside for preorders.

Yeah I called a few by me and they said pre orders only. How is the quality of the limited edition? Wondering if I should spend the money on it.

 

[Onemic]

Havent had any issues with Kuro's either staying depressed or making a hideous noise, dont think theyre mushy either, though they certainly offer more tactile feedback than Sanwas, a more positive review of the buttons here - http://shoryuken.com/2014/02/24/srklabs-review-hori-hayabusa-and-kuro/ and a review thread with generally favourable impressions of Kuros http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/188878/hori-kuro-unboxing-no-mods and some more commentary on the buttons here - http://www.levelup-series.com/hori-innovates-once-again/#prettyPhoto

Kuro's are hit and miss.(and it seems like its weighed more heavily towards miss) It's honestly luck of the draw whether the buttons will be good or not. For example the Kuro's on my hori FE are perfect. Feel softer than Sanwas, quieter, and none of the problems regarding sticking and noise like in the that review or what others have said. I'd take the Kuros on my FE over regular Sanwa's any day. The Kuro's on my HRAP4 though are entirely different. One of the buttons feels slightly sticky, and all the buttons for the most part feel very mushy vs Sanwas. No sound problems though.

 

[fader]

Well, it IS I-No. Considering she says stuff like this:



It's not surprise she'd enjoy it.

how did i miss this? Is she Morrigan now? lol

 

[CommandThrower]

how did i miss this? Is she Morrigan now? lol

Is she Morrigan now? She's always been crass and vulgar regarding sexuality.

She tells May in XX to "go drink her daddy's milk", and that was her debut game.

 

[Lostconfused]

Those games exist. People should play those instead of whining about the ones they can't play.

Well if they spent money on it, I can understand them complaining a bit about the bad purchasing decision they made.

Personally I'd prefer to complain about the netcode in this case though.

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

No idea why you can't select the vocal themes as battle music.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

I contacted Amazon customer support and they said that due to the high volume of orders and low stock of Limited Editions, mine could ship anytime between the 23rd and 5th. This is suuuuuuper dumb...

 

[Essay]

Oh nice. Super Best Friends released an Xrd episode. This should be entertaining.

Okay, I opened it back up.

Again, New England 1a, lobby 4,

Ah, too late. Got challenged to some +R netplay, because: screw the patch.

 

[ZeroX03]

Havent had any issues with Kuro's either staying depressed or making a hideous noise, dont think theyre mushy either, though they certainly offer more tactile feedback than Sanwas, a more positive review of the buttons here - http://shoryuken.com/2014/02/24/srklabs-review-hori-hayabusa-and-kuro/ and a review thread with generally favourable impressions of Kuros http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/188878/hori-kuro-unboxing-no-mods and some more commentary on the buttons here - http://www.levelup-series.com/hori-innovates-once-again/#prettyPhoto

My HRAP V4 has been driving me nuts with the Kuro buttons. Simply put, they're horrible. Already purchased Sanwa buttons to replace them next week.

I honestly wish that Sony would allow older sticks to work on the PS4 so I can use my custom stick which I've been using for the past two years.

 

[Uthred]

My HRAP V4 has been driving me nuts with the Kuro buttons. Simply put, they're horrible. Already purchased Sanwa buttons to replace them next week.

I honestly wish that Sony would allow older sticks to work on the PS4 so I can use my custom stick which I've been using for the past two years.

Nice stick. Its unfortunate that there seem to be bad batches of Kuro's, the two sticks I have them in are fine. Though I might swap them out for semitsu's because I prefer the feel.

 

[ZeroX03]

Nice stick. Its unfortunate that there seem to be bad batches of Kuro's, the two sticks I have them in are fine. Though I might swap them out for semitsu's because I prefer the feel.

The custom stick I have has a sanwa stick and seimitsu buttons. I'd install seimitsu buttons but I cannot find them anywhere in Australia and they're too expensive to import from Focus Attack so I'll settle for sanwa for the HRAP V4.

 

[AkelisRain]

The Kuro buttons are extremely mushy and tend to stay depressed, not to mention they make this hideous noise I'll link below. Give me Sanwa/Seimitsu any day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_vtJShSZEo

Skip to 1:00

Ewww, those sound disgusting. I'll stick with my Sanwa too.