Frustrated_Grunt
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So the specializations work like prestige, where you have to finish one completely before you can switch to another?
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Halo 4 |OT| Spartans Never Die
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SatansReverence
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Demoncarnotaur
Member
I was going to go Pioneer, but then I won't get to be a special flower. What should I do?
Rogue IMO.. reduced flinch perk is nice for btb.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Is fast track only usable as pioneer, or if you complete it can you use it with another spec? If not, what's the point of pioneer? I'm 49 atm, not sure what I'm gonna pick.
From what I understand, they all are usable with other specs after you complete them.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Specializations are a Tactical Package or Support Upgrade, and you can use them however you like and are not tied to the 'class' in any way.
I'unno. The helmet is kind of ugly I guess
How beneficial is the Reduced Flinch? Does it remove flinch entirely? It's been asked a bunch of times but no one's really answered.
I imagine it's reduced. As in, not nonexistent, but advantage yours.
TUROK
Member
I don't understand some of the weapon balance decisions. The Boltshot takes like 16 shots to kill someone, yet the charge shot, which can be charged in an instant, will decimate anyone who is 5 feet in front of you.
I was running around with the Boltshot earlier, just blasting people away with the charged shot... I honestly felt like I was cheating. When I tried to use it in single shot mode, though, I couldn't get any kills.
Oh yeah, this game needs to have the option to only go into matches that haven't started yet.
Honestly, it really really shows that this is 343's first Halo game. They did a lot of things right, but it also makes me miss Bungie immensely.
I was running around with the Boltshot earlier, just blasting people away with the charged shot... I honestly felt like I was cheating. When I tried to use it in single shot mode, though, I couldn't get any kills.
Oh yeah, this game needs to have the option to only go into matches that haven't started yet.
Honestly, it really really shows that this is 343's first Halo game. They did a lot of things right, but it also makes me miss Bungie immensely.
The weird thing is I had Wetwork and Operator to choose from at the start. Picked Operator.
TUROK
Member
Active Camo is unlimited now? No way...
Unlimited use, you can use it as many times as you want. Do you want to argue semantics with me?
Just beat the game. I have a lot of negative impressions (music, art direction, certain graphical elements, the Promethean enemies, the story, Tinker Bell, Tron...) and that Legendary ending....glad I didn't play through again for that.
They really should have woven this into the game somehow.
They really should have woven this into the game somehow.
The events in this video, did they occur millenia before the birth of humanity ? And Prometheans = Forerunners ?
And was this animated short on halo waypoint or something? How did it get on YouTube ?
There are terminals scattered throughout levels in Halo 4. One per level outside of the first. Each one unlocks one of these in Halo Waypoint to view. Someone just captured them using a capture card I guess.
Prometheans were
first Forerunners who willingly gave their lives to join Didact's army of digital soldiers initially. But when his armies were not enough to withstand the force of the Flood, and Humans began destroying Forerunner planets that were infected to try and get rid of the Flood, the Didact thought they were simply going after the Forerunners instead of trying to contain and run from the infection. So he got angry and decided to start using Humans to create Prometheans instead of Forerunners. The ones you fight are primarily Humans turned Prometheans.
And yes most of the events in the video take place
100 000 years ago, and the Humanity there is Ancient Humanity.
The videos can be veiwed on Waypoint after you get the terminals but they are hidden under layers of menus. Also the events were 100,000 years ago
Yeah he is
the leader of the entire ancient Forerunner military.
TUROK
Member
I still haven't used Active Camo in Halo 4, so that's why I was asking. No need to get all defensive.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
I thought in the Halo fiction the Forerunners were just humans who died out a long time ago due to the Flood. I did not know they were an Alien civilization. That kind of annoys me
AndresON777
shooting blanks
Do I have to play campaign or spec ops to get a specialization?
edit: thanks
edit: thanks
Apologies, I thought you were being sarcastic. Yes, it's unlimited use. Longer duration than Reach (and faster recharge) on top of the invisibility effect being much better. Basically it's fucking ridiculous.
Anything that gives you XP. It's tied to your overall rank. Once you hit 50 you get to choose a specialization.
They kind of alluded to that a lot on the first 3 games but the expanded universe changed the direction of things along the way.
I think it's fine now that they've fleshed out the Forerunner/Humanity relationship and its a lot deeper now but I'm not quite sure if the bait and switch was intentional or not.
I remember the Terminals in Halo 3 being very emotionally affecting. IRRC, there were these transmission sent back and forth by two lovers and you see their desperation in their last days of life.
I think the Didact is the male half of that relationship. Well, maybe not the Halo 4 Didact...there's two, I think....sheesh. This one certainly had no love for the Librarian...it's all very strange.
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Deleted member 13876
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I hope they never patch the sprint grenades. That stuff is fun as hell.
Yeah, exploiting sure is great!
Fuel Rod enemies aren't hard, they're just annoying. That's primarily what gets me killed - shot after shot, it just feels so artificial. Not a pleasurable experience. The whole mode to me seems like a chore with what type of enemies they throw out. It's about as fun as fighting Heretic Elites in Reach's Firefight.
I agree with most, if not all, of what Overdoziz pointed out as well. I'm finding more and more ways of dislike with the game as I play it more often. With more players getting specific unlocks, i.e. camo, it becomes a game of crouch behind this wall with the Active Camo AA and wait for the enemy with your Mauler secondary weapon. Add that on top of random drops in ordnances, it's just an unpredictable set of pieces that makes the game little tedious. The new gametypes aren't really my thing, either, and the map-gametype combos just aren't doing much. I don't do Flood or FFA, and their new ideas seem to fall flat in some way or another. Slayer is okay in spurts but I cannot do that for so long as I find it too boring. Slayer Pro would be fine if it had a little more going for it. There's no area to control or weapons. I suppose a lot of how much more I play hinges on their future playlist updates, patches which they need to patch an awful lot, and map packs. Right now I simply don't have the urge to turn on my Xbox and be excited to play.
BravesCountry
Banned
So I picked up the game yesterday after not having played a halo game since halo 3 and I wasn't having the greatest time playing. My favorite modes were all gone and I wasn't a huge fan of the loadout idea and the ordnances, but honestly since I've been playing more and more and getting used to the maps, I've definitely had a much better time. I feel that once I get used to everything it has enough of the classic halo feel to keep me coming for a long time.
I was fighting a bunch of really tiny enemies earlier. It would've been hilarious if it wasn't so infuriating trying to finish the level.
Mizzou Gaming
Member
I completely respect your opinions about HALO 4 and I appreciate the attention to detail in backing up your annoyances and dislikes of HALO 4 but I sincerely hope 343 does not move in this direction at all for the next HALO game.
His list, at least, is pretty accurate. Active Camo, Jet Pack, and Promethean Vision should not be armor abilities, and the Boltshot should not be a weapon that you spawn with. Forge is a mess, and Spartan Ops is unplayable online.
A real problem I have with Ordnance is it being reward for people doing well. It's not balanced properly at all, and at times boils down to "You're already decimating the other team? Great! Here's a Binary Rifle and an Incineration Cannon!" I'm not saying you should reward people who are doing poorly, but as it stands right now, it's merely insult to injury. Going on a Killing Frenzy and then being rewarded with a Sniper Rifle makes me feel dirty. :|
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Think about it.. You're a super soldier Spartan-IV and you throw 'nades like a little biatch? It baffles me how Spartans can't throw a Grenade as fast/far as Halo 1 ;\
It boils down to players sitting in one spot or general area and being rewarded, often with a one-hit kill rifle or a heavy explosive cannon like the Incineration Cannon; it makes no sense. Fighting over a weapon that usually spawned in the center of the map is gone. This little scenario is even more drastic in BTB Slayer. What is this? Not to mention all the vehicles they litter around the maps, and spawning with your own 3x zoom rifle and an EMP machine (which goes up to 150% with the Ammo upgrade) as a secondary. It's all a joke.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Definitely, its completely decimated the fun out of the BTB playlist for me, a playlist that is possibly my second most played in each Halo game, behind objective.
It's funny, I've been getting my BTB fix from dominion, that playlist has its fair share of problems, the biggest being the (surprise, surprise) overwhelming amount of power weapons, but when two team go at it, and it's not filled with many PWs, it can be great fun.
I've seen vehicles last whole games in dominion as well!
oops. sorry, i meant the noob-combo. some horrible games yesterday. it seemed like everyone was running around with a PP+combo weapon or one of the unlimited power weapons. i like the gun game in H4, it feels good to fire DMRs, BRs & co, but in an annoying amount of games i played yesterday power weapons were dominant/more common than actual shoot.outs.
...trying to get into a Mantis again after being killed is ridiculous. a pair of hunters and god knows how many elites had positioned themselves between and around the nearest mech and me and the game just kept respawning me in the same place.
it was a 100% pure not-fun-at-all experience and really disappointing. i really like Halo 4 but Spartan Ops solo fails miserably. i understand that the focus is set on the co-op experience, but the solo part really, really sucks. it is incredibly bad, what were they thinking etc. etc.
i don't think that 343I will "fix" this anytime soon, because it's not just a problem of level design but also of the AI, which isn't aggressive enough and doesn't react to the player, but commits random acts of stupidity if not camping. there's no enemy tactic, hence their insane numbers.
but here's hope to that 343I will at least add a search/start public game option in which players that feel like it get to choose difficulty setting and chapter without having to hope for 3 more friends to get online. (i also miss XBL co-op campaign)
it has been mentioned that 343I/MS sends out codes for additional specializations to all players who have been active in the last weeks.
Synth_floyd
Banned
I've played a few hours of multiplayer and the first 2 levels of single player.
Single player: Seems like a rehash of Halo 1 so far. First level is Pillar of Autumn, 2nd is Halo. And since Cortana is rampant Chief just goes "well we'll fix that." And now it's a "save the princess" plot. Looks like the new enemies are about to be introduced so we'll see.
Multiplayer: Halo has basically become Call of Duty. Millions of loadouts, tons of stupid unlockables. One of the best things about Halo was how simple it was and how everyone starts with the crap assault rifle in multiplayer. They buffed the assault rifle and now all the basic weapons in the game can kill you pretty well. They also made all the levels a lot bigger. So it feels like Call of duty where you die in 1 or 2 shots now. Close combat is reduced, far away combat and campers have increased. You have kill streaks now too. Most of the new weapons really aren't that interesting either. I haven't noticed what the difference is between the DMR and that 3 shot rifle. Grenades and melee seem to be weakened as well. Or maybe it's just because of the larger levels. Instead of a nice balance between weapons, grenades and melee, it's mostly weapons now, like call of duty.
Anyway my impressions are kind of unorganized but I just feel overall that the multiplayer is very generic and disappointing.
Single player: Seems like a rehash of Halo 1 so far. First level is Pillar of Autumn, 2nd is Halo. And since Cortana is rampant Chief just goes "well we'll fix that." And now it's a "save the princess" plot. Looks like the new enemies are about to be introduced so we'll see.
Multiplayer: Halo has basically become Call of Duty. Millions of loadouts, tons of stupid unlockables. One of the best things about Halo was how simple it was and how everyone starts with the crap assault rifle in multiplayer. They buffed the assault rifle and now all the basic weapons in the game can kill you pretty well. They also made all the levels a lot bigger. So it feels like Call of duty where you die in 1 or 2 shots now. Close combat is reduced, far away combat and campers have increased. You have kill streaks now too. Most of the new weapons really aren't that interesting either. I haven't noticed what the difference is between the DMR and that 3 shot rifle. Grenades and melee seem to be weakened as well. Or maybe it's just because of the larger levels. Instead of a nice balance between weapons, grenades and melee, it's mostly weapons now, like call of duty.
Anyway my impressions are kind of unorganized but I just feel overall that the multiplayer is very generic and disappointing.
ClosingADoor
Member
I feel the same about the larger maps. Try some Slayer Pro or Regicide. Smaller maps, more focus on skills instead of just luck.
Bought this on impulse. I've always been pretty ambivalent towards the Halo franchise, I played a lot of split screen Halo back in the day but the rest of the game left me cold.
I'm really enjoying this, though. It's the first Halo i've actually finished the campaign in SP n and I'm actually having fun with the online stuff too, which is pretty unheard of for me.
Definitely my favourite in the series so far (not played Reach or ODST though). I guess whatever they've changed works well for me.
I'm really enjoying this, though. It's the first Halo i've actually finished the campaign in SP n and I'm actually having fun with the online stuff too, which is pretty unheard of for me.
Definitely my favourite in the series so far (not played Reach or ODST though). I guess whatever they've changed works well for me.