Halo 4: Review Thread

Shurs said:
Didn't the IGN video review contain campaign footage?
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Apparently IGN's campaign footage was approved by MS. GameTrailers wants to use their own campaign footage so they have to wait for the embargo which according to other posters in this thread will be midnight on Monday.
 
rCIZZLE said:
Well, lately it's been true as I've only been playing a couple games and both are multiplat and both I own on ps3. I mostly said that as a joke to offset the "ps3 is good... as a bluray player" comment.

Regardless, I don't see how that as anything at all to do with what you bolded.
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The fact that you think it's your duty to "offset" some perceived attack on your precious PS3 says a lot. None good.
 
Foolishfellow said:
I just thought I would chime in and tell everyone to shut the hell up already.

This discussion is pointless. Halo 4 is the videogame industry's equivalent to a hollywood blockbuster. Discussing reviews of this game is pointless and idiotic. We're talking about a flashy, obnoxious, and expensive game. This game is pure spectacle (like a hollywood blockbuster) and that is completely fine. In fact, I'll be one of the morons waiting in line at midnight tomorrow to get a copy.

Reviews are not objective. Reviews are not scripture. Its frightening how much some of you people are indoctrinated into the... I don't know "ideology" of this product. Gaming commodity fetishism? This is not the videogame equivalent of Citizen Kane people. This is just a dumb game where you run forward and shoot aliens.

Also, everyone having this objective vs. subjective debate needs to grow some god damn brains. It shows that you know nothing about journalism, literature, or writing in general.

I also realize I am mostly talking to 15 year old boys right now. At least I hope you guys are 15. You are 15, right?
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Your name suits you well. But it's amazing how little effort some people have to put into troll bait nowadays to provoke an emotional reponse. Bravo, I guess. You win nothing.
 
Baconsammy said:
The fact that you think it's your duty to "offset" some perceived attack on your precious PS3 says a lot. None good.
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Says nothing in regards to the bolded.

Just to make it clear so this non-issue is squashed, I own both consoles and have played both roughly an equal amount. ~30k gamerscore on 360, ~lvl13 on ps3. I dislike fanboyism and go out of my way to offset such remarks, even humorous ones. What do you think "PS360" was referring to btw?
 
Demon Ice said:
Apparently IGN's campaign footage was approved by MS. GameTrailers wants to use their own campaign footage so they have to wait for the embargo which according to other posters in this thread will be midnight on Monday.
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Really? Cause I got accidentally spoiled in it.

CAMPAIGN VEHICLE SPOILER, NOTHING STORY RELATED:
Apparently, you get to fly a Pelican in Halo 4. I really wish I hadn't seen that.
 
I thought the EGM review was stupid, but Tom Chick's review is fine. I don't share his point of view but I understand it.

I'm ready for more Halo and I'm glad 343 didn't rock the boat for their first major release.
 
rCIZZLE said:
Says nothing in regards to the bolded.

Just to make it clear so this non-issue is squashed, I own both consoles and have played both roughly an equal amount. ~30k gamerscore on 360, ~lvl13 on ps3. I dislike fanboyism and go out of my way to offset such remarks, even humorous ones. What do you think "PS360" was referring to btw?
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It's fanboyism to say you use your PS3 to watch Blurays? Hooboy.
 
Baconsammy said:
It's fanboyism to say you use your PS3 to watch Blurays? Hooboy.
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It's obvious what he was saying by how he said it. His was a joke, which I replied to with a joke of my own.

Go back and read it. I don't even see why this is an issue. Still has nothing to do with anything I said before or after that.
 
Baconsammy said:
Saying Halo needs iron sights isn't an opinion. It's fucking stupid.
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...says you.

And it is an opinion, whether you like it or not. You're no different than the people who said or say that having the ability to run and shoot at the same time in Resident Evil would ruin the game, or that having a flashlight in Doom 3 would ruin the game. I'm not saying that having iron sights in Halo would improve the game, I'm just expressing that saying it's "fucking stupid" because you have a preconceived notion about what gameplay should be in a Halo game no matter what is dumb. Maybe the reviewer sees the style of gameplay in Halo dated. It's not like it hasn't been said about a million other games. It's just that it's Halo and it's supposed to be some way, because the fans have come to expect that.

Maybe instead of railing the guy because he gave the game a less than perfect score, and saying he feels like the gampeplay is dated, you all should explain why you think the Halo gameplay still works, and why it still works today. Then again, you could just say that it's Halo and you like that it's consistent, and that's fair (and I'd probably agree) but expect people to think that your view is "fucking stupid" as well.
 
Izick said:
...says you.

And it is an opinion, whether you like it or not. You're no different than the people who said or say that having the ability to run and shoot at the same time in Resident Evil would ruin the game, or that having a flashlight in Doom 3 would ruin the game. I'm not saying that having iron sights in Halo would improve the game, I'm just expressing that saying it's "fucking stupid" because you have a preconceived notion about what gameplay should be in a Halo game no matter what is dumb. Maybe the reviewer sees the style of gameplay in Halo dated. It's not like it hasn't been said about a million other games. It's just that it's Halo and it's supposed to be some way, because the fans have come to expect that.

Maybe instead of railing the guy because he gave the game a less than perfect score, and saying he feels like the gampeplay is dated, you all should explain why you think the Halo gameplay still works, and why it still works today. Then again, you could just say that it's Halo and you like that it's consistent, and that's fair (and I'd probably agree) but expect people to think that your view is "fucking stupid" as well.
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Have you ever played a Halo title?
 
Izick said:
...says you.

And it is an opinion, whether you like it or not. You're no different than the people who said or say that having the ability to run and shoot at the same time in Resident Evil would ruin the game, or that having a flashlight in Doom 3 would ruin the game. I'm not saying that having iron sights in Halo would improve the game, I'm just expressing that saying it's "fucking stupid" because you have a preconceived notion about what gameplay should be in a Halo game no matter what is dumb. Maybe the reviewer sees the style of gameplay in Halo dated. It's not like it hasn't been said about a million other games. It's just that it's Halo and it's supposed to be some way, because the fans have come to expect that.

Maybe instead of railing the guy because he gave the game a less than perfect score, and saying he feels like the gampeplay is dated, you all should explain why you think the Halo gameplay still works, and why it still works today. Then again, you could just say that it's Halo and you like that it's consistent, and that's fair (and I'd probably agree) but expect people to think that your view is "fucking stupid" as well.
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People have already done a great job detailing why it's a silly complaint. Besides, surely you can agree that homogenization is never something one should argue for in a critical review, right?
 
Izick said:
...says you.

And it is an opinion, whether you like it or not. You're no different than the people who said or say that having the ability to run and shoot at the same time in Resident Evil would ruin the game, or that having a flashlight in Doom 3 would ruin the game. I'm not saying that having iron sights in Halo would improve the game, I'm just expressing that saying it's "fucking stupid" because you have a preconceived notion about what gameplay should be in a Halo game no matter what is dumb. Maybe the reviewer sees the style of gameplay in Halo dated. It's not like it hasn't been said about a million other games. It's just that it's Halo and it's supposed to be some way, because the fans have come to expect that.

Maybe instead of railing the guy because he gave the game a less than perfect score, and saying he feels like the gampeplay is dated, you all should explain why you think the Halo gameplay still works, and why it still works today. Then again, you could just say that it's Halo and you like that it's consistent, and that's fair (and I'd probably agree) but expect people to think that your view is "fucking stupid" as well.
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And the cycle begins anew.

And your argument is dumb.
 
Nutter said:
Have you ever played a Halo title?
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All of them.

JustProgress said:
And the cycle begins anew.

And your argument is dumb.
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Great insight there, sharp as a tack.
BigJiantRobut said:
People have already done a great job detailing why it's a silly complaint. Besides, surely you can agree that homogenization is never something one should argue for in a critical review, right?
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Of course not, and I'm not one who ever said that I want Halo to gave iron sights. I think that a lot of people (not you) failed to read that, but I also don't want people who are supposed to be giving their opinion on a game to bow to the whims of the fans of the series. I'll take people who review the game on their own merits.

I'm not saying Halo would benefit from iron sights, but I'm saying it's silly to berate a guy who reviews games for a living because I think it may. If he thinks that Halo's gameplay is old, then let him say it. Having these silly, childish backlashes against these guys only goes to solidify the various stereotypes of forums, especially gaming forums, that even the prestigious and usually well respected Neogaf isn't above. The only reason these guys don't respond to say Gamefaqs posts is that they're usually completely disregarded and ignored because they're just another video game forum that has all the usual problems.

I'm not saying it's wrong to voice disagreement with the review, but to call him out, so to speak, and say that he's a joke or lacks credibility because he, or the site gave some other game in the same genre a higher score is an absolute joke. It's a joke that people are so enamored with these franchises that they can't consider that it's just some guy with his own views reviewing this thing. I mean it's basically the whole "anonymity+audience=asshole" type of thing that the internet (especially forums) has been famous for, but it's still childish.
 
Nutter said:
Amazing...

Welp, I guess the industry is fucked. Every FPS from here on out needs to be more like COD.
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He criticizes it for being like COD

Speaking of multiplayer, some things don't add up. There's an underlying sense that at best the only new elements to the game's MP are borrowed. The Ordinance is clearly a nod to the Call of Duty series' Killstreak system, though the streak continues when you die. So too, the leveling system is the sort of carrot we've come to expect from Activision's game (though it obviously didn't start there.) The worst thing is that these are unnecessary additions to the game - people might appreciate the very obvious way they can track their progress, but it's not exactly a pure Halo experience, is it?
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Metacritic's rating system sure is weird putting high weighting on some of these reviews. Better just to ignore the score altogether.

MC is one of the worst things about this industry.
 
Surface of Me said:
Reads like he didn't even want to give it a chance, SMH.
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Reads like a person who dislikes halo giving a review on a halo game.
Ah well. It's cool to see different sides

We have IGN; hopped up on mtn dew giving a peppy review after already enjoying the series

then we have this guy; I don't give a fuck about halo, really don't feel like reviewing this... but will give an honest review after playing for a few hours.
 
I'm sure there's some merit to the "same old Halo" complaints (honestly I would have preferred 100% new enemies and 100% new non-human weapons) but 1/5 is ludicrous.
 
sp3000 said:
He criticizes it for being like COD
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It is like COD which is not a Halo experience, yet at the same time its too much like Halo. Does the guy even know what he wants?

The greatest praise and strongest criticism I can level at Halo 4 is that it sure is Halo.
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Read above.. and tell me how does that make sense?

Because a game is trying to differentiate itself from the norms of Halo and still retain the core functionality, it is somehow a bad game?

And yes a 5.5 is implying that its a below average game.
 
wwm0nkey said:
I don't think he has played a lot of Call of Duty because this plays nothing like CoD, yeah some stuff has influenced Halo 4 but it plays NOTHING like Call of Duty.
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he has 9.5. http://www.gamearena.com.au/ps3/games/title/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3/reviews.php
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 really is the best multiplayer shooter on console right now. It's not changing the landscape of shooters - it's honing it to its sharpest point. It's a no-brainer purchase for console gamers, and there's very little to complain about regarding it.

Overall, MW3 exhibits remarkable maturity, and it will deliver it to an audience renowned for its immaturity. There's a chance it might even be a good thing for video games culture. Whether it is or not doesn't matter though - it's a great ride and a fantastic ending to the series.
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looks like he really like CoD mp from that review and from his halo review the game feels off to him.
 
madmackem said:
Wtf, its like he never played games before cod, is he like thirteen or something. Halo being a halo game but in the same review he moans its trying to be something else, how does this person review games.
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So now we have 3 douches that cannot keep their own opinions consistent?
 
Izick said:
I'm not saying Halo would benefit from iron sights, but I'm saying it's silly to berate a guy who reviews games for a living because I think it may. If he thinks that Halo's gameplay is old, then let him say it. Having these silly, childish backlashes against these guys only goes to solidify the various stereotypes of forums, especially gaming forums, that even the prestigious and usually well respected Neogaf isn't above. The only reason these guys don't respond to say Gamefaqs posts is that they're usually completely disregarded and ignored because they're just another video game forum that has all the usual problems.

I'm not saying it's wrong to voice disagreement with the review, but to call him out, so to speak, and say that he's a joke or lacks credibility because he, or the site gave some other game in the same genre a higher score is an absolute joke. It's a joke that people are so enamored with these franchises that they can't consider that it's just some guy with his own views reviewing this thing. I mean it's basically the whole "anonymity+audience=asshole" type of thing that the internet (especially forums) has been famous for, but it's still childish.
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I haven't waded into this as I feel the subject was covered more eloquently than I could convey, such as with EatChildren's post.

The EGM reviewer conveyed a basic lack of understanding the game he was reviewing, and neglected to mention word one about why a mechanic he likes in other very different shooters would benefit Halo. He likes ADS, Halo does not have ADS, therefore, bad. That's as deep as he got.

He deserves a fair amount of grief for a such a poorly reasoned - actually, unreasoned - critique.
sp3000 said:
Including Halo 4

imagine if the situation was reversed and COD was forced to copy from Halo how much better the industry would have been
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To be fair, the lessons Halo is taking from CoD are not wreaking the gameplay, which is what a lot of us feared. It's Halo through and through. The CoD influences are on the edges, in the progression and customizations systems. But the combat systems and campaign, with those damnable large environments and AI driven sandbox encounters, remain intact.
 
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