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Halo 5: Guardians |OT3| Ball Dropped
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blue_phazon
Member
Proof that wrong opinions exist
Feel the Swift
Member
Great post, needed bumped.
WordsintheWater
Member
I mean come on guys, the Halo 4 and Reach over this is ridiculous when it comes to the gameplay department, but it really is kinda hard to defend 343 when it comes to modes and maps. I mean it's been 4 months and we have no King of the Hill, no Oddball, no other compelling modes. BTB is freaking terrible, the servers are indeed getting worse and worse as we go on, and spawn killing is becoming a serious problem. This would be hands down forever the best Halo for me personally if everything was in place. As it stands now it's the best playing Halo and that's about it, everything else Bungie absolutely destroys them in and it's not even close.
it is cause halo 5 is sooooo good. oh well, so long as the series continues to do well enough to continue to get big support and matchmaking times are reasonable, i'll be happy.
EDIT: shit, didnt even take the time to properly look at it. this is for twitch views. of course halo 5 wont have what a multiplat title has. and halo seems to be doing pretty well during big events like HCS
EDIT: lulz, its not even viewers but number of broadcasters.
SpartanN92
Banned
5 is too fast paced. Thrusters, Spartan Charge, Ground Pound, ADS... It's all bull shit and imo hurts Halo.
SpartanN92
Banned
Been playing since November 2001... Halo 2 and 3 are by far my favorite. The conversation was about Halo Reach, 4&5 if you had actually read it instead of taking one quote out of context you would have noticed.
You could have said Halo CE, 2 or 3 and I wouldn't have said anything, but Halo 4 and Halo Reach? When did you start playing Halo?
Sorry, but unlike Reachs or 4's Armor Abilities you can counter and react to each of those. Please tell me how they hurt Halo or break maps/gameplay in a way that Jetpacks or Promethean Vision did?
I was also the biggest enemy of ADS prior to Halo 5, but now I really don't mind it since it's really just a different zoom skin.
Can you eloborate please? It's not like my opinions are stated as a fact.
Nothing wrong with quoting what you said and it's far from out of context. I think most people who played Reach and 4 would disagree with you there.
Fata1moose
Banned
Thrusters draw out firefights, dodging grenades, melee attacks etc...ADS is mostly cosmetic say for automatics, it doesn't have a direct effect on game pace. A lower TTK on automatics certainly does, but that also means a more balanced sandbox (before automatics were useless). Ground pound is a 1 hit kill sure, but you have to charge it and you can hear the player in the air, again doesn't increase the pace. Spartan charge is the only thing that increases the pace of the game that you mentioned as it's a way to attack while sprinting. The pistol has a pretty fast TTK, but it has low magnetism so it's difficult to pull off, not unlike the magnum in CE, which has a 3 shot kill, but it's difficult to hit all 3 as it's projectile based. The BR is closer in line with Halo 2's which had a fast RoF and lower TTK than 3, 4 or Reach's DMR. The overall pace of the game is still much slower and methodical than a twitch shooter.
Forerunner
Member
Reach content with Halo 5 gameplay that's what I want. Well maybe not the maps from Reach, but you get what I'm saying!
backflip10019
Member
You're right. Halo should have remained slow and continued to include Armor Lock and reticle bloom.
I mean, just look at how much fun this is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ohBej_mDuM
Forerunner
Member
Probably not that well. RTS aren't really that big anymore, it's a pretty niche game audience now. The only one you see on twitch consistently is SC2.
But I love strategy games (TBS, 4X, RTS, and etc.) So I can't wait for Halo Wars 2.
That sounds more like it. Reach's variety of gametypes was pretty solid. That's where Halo 5 needs to step up primarily.
RTS games are pretty much dead on Twitch. It's all about MOBA's.
SpartanN92
Banned
Everyone making it out like I think Reach is the fucking gold standard or something Jesus Christ...
Halo needs to go back to the core values of Halo 2/3 gameplay but clearly that's not gonna happen.
Forerunner
Member
blue_phazon
Member
Halo 5 is more in line with the core values of 2/3 than 4/reach
link1201
Member
Hmmm, I guess I was confusing rts and mobas....I don't play either so they kinda look similar to me. What's league of legends? Rts or a moba?
Fata1moose
Banned
Dota, Heroes of the Storm and League of Legends are mobas and I honestly can't tell the difference between any of them.
Forerunner
Member
Yes LoL is a moba, those are the ones you see a lot on Twitch. LoL, Dota 2, Heroes of the Storm, and etc.
Edit: Too slow!
link1201
Member
Ahhh ok never mind then.
To be fair, MOBA's are actually a sub genre of RTS games. In RTS games, you usually controll more than 1 unit (huge armies to be more precise) and it comes down to reacting to your enemies unit composition. In MOBA's, which are played in teams of 4 or 5, you usually only controll 1 unit.
Trailer had it as Fall 2016.
Fata1moose
Banned
We haven't seen the game yet, but that's totally doable. Just think, Fallout 4 was announced and released all within the same year.
ATOMICJORGE
Member
Fall 2016 it's the only thing that we know so far, also guys you should check out my Halo Wars 2 video reaction *SPOILER* you are going to laugh a lot
https://youtu.be/ANYYhsi_lYUPoodlestrike
Banned
Fall 2016 it's the only thing that we know so far, also guys you should check out my Halo Wars 2 video reaction *SPOILER* you are going to laugh a lot
no hablas espanol
Leyasu
Banned
All good things must come to an end...
If you are from the EU, it's back to cunt servers and goodbye to the quality games that we have been enjoying the last couple of weeks.
For fuck sake 343, you're getting like dice with endless fucking tinkering! Why couldn't you have just left it how it was? I was averaging less than a minute searching for games. Smfh.
Oh well, everyone already knows you lot are clueless.
Rant over
If you are from the EU, it's back to cunt servers and goodbye to the quality games that we have been enjoying the last couple of weeks.
For fuck sake 343, you're getting like dice with endless fucking tinkering! Why couldn't you have just left it how it was? I was averaging less than a minute searching for games. Smfh.
Oh well, everyone already knows you lot are clueless.
Rant over
ATOMICJORGE
Member
The point is how I reacted to the announcement
Honestly all I want with Halo Wars 2 is a better-intergrated story and maybe some Kinect voice command stuff and finer-grained rally point control. The gameplay was solid and had some surprisingly deep strategies in multiplayer (although never rebalancing the game sort of made certain strats overused.)
Poodlestrike
Banned
Yes, but you reacted to it in Spanish, which leaves me utterly incapable of understanding it.
ATOMICJORGE
Member
Fair enough but I was not talking about what I said but more about how my body reacted haha
Poodlestrike
Banned
See, that's the thing, your body language is also Spanish. I'm only proficient in English body language. Sorry bro.
Fall 2016 it's the only thing that we know so far, also guys you should check out my Halo Wars 2 video reaction *SPOILER* you are going to laugh a lot
I didn't laugh but I will say, that was pretty much my reaction. I was on Steam chat with a couple friends while it was showing and omg we went crazy when that came on. So hyped.
Rolling out.. I'm going... Going there now... As you command...
I hope it gets shown at the Windows 10/Xbox One event next week. Creative Assembly + looking at the open jobs. I need something to make me less worried.
Awesome Team Beyond video to hype you up for Regionals this weekend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXawFnyUOaU
Is 343 going to produce anything like this? There hasn't been any HCS video content outside of entire games uploaded to YouTube which arn't good at bringing in new potential fans, and there's this wealth of stuff to hype people up over- rivalries, rostermania etc etc
Also
really excited for this, hope Renegades perform as well as they are capable of. I think CLG has 1st in the bag. Curious to see how Evil Geniuses do - they looked amazing at x-games but recent scrims have been like an entirely different team. Allegiance too seems to have fallen off a bit.
the safe bet IMO is
1st CLG
2nd EG
3rd ALG
4th RNG
but hopefully there are some upsets. I'd love to see renegades squeak into 3rd or, much less likely 2nd. And i probably shouldnt count out liquid stealing 4th...
I totally forgot it was also coming to Windows 10.. I wonder if it will be another crossbuy. Oh I'm even more excited now :O
Fall 2016 it's the only thing that we know so far, also guys you should check out my Halo Wars 2 video reaction *SPOILER* you are going to laugh a lot
Alright....someone has to gif the reaction from 2min onwards.
ATOMICJORGE
Member
Prostagma, Maista, Voulome wait wrong game . . . ALL UNITS!, Local units
Agreed. That's what I picked for X games and I'll stick to that here
Chittagong
Gold Member
Wow, I quit ONE single match today out of probably around 15 matches, a really laggy one. Got banned for 9 hours 19 minutes
Why the fuck is there even a Leave Game option? They should just rename it "get banned''
Why the fuck is there even a Leave Game option? They should just rename it "get banned''
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Doge
Unconfirmed Member
Despite Halo 5 having some server problems as of late, Halo 5 (as far as multiplayer is concerned) is probably the best playing Halo to date.
Sure, the maps might not be the best, but as far as arena maps are concerned, they do a fantastic job of getting you into the battle. Combat flow on the maps are good. You can have a match go into a complete halt and then you can suddenly have a fast pace match in mere seconds because combat flow from the maps are good. The maps may look bland, but as far as getting you into the fight is concerned, they are good.
If we are going to talk about Halo 5 as a competitive game, it blows every other Halo in this space. Competitive Halo 5 is fantastic.The weapon balance and combat flow of the maps attribute to this as well as movement.
Weapon balance. Halo 5 has the best weapon balance out of every Halo to date. Everything is viable and not completely broken. Everything has a purpose and if used as such, damage can be done. Close quarter weapons serve there purpose effectively as well as precision weapons. Power weapons feel like power weapons and do their part. The sandbox balance in this is on point. I don't play computer games, but as far as console games are concerned, Halo 5 has the best weapon balance to date when it comes to FPS.
As far as social and casual modes are concerned, yea Halo 5 is lacking. It can use improvement and I can see why some people would not have it on top of their list for multiplayer games cause it isn't doing a good job catering to this particular audience. Seeing as how 343 made a big improvement in a lot of things, I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. If they really want to keep there player base, I think they will make the necessary changes. I honestly don't understand how there isn't social playlists and I definitely understand warzone should not be the substitute for this.
Abilities such as sprinting, spartan charging and ground pounding feel so right. The abilities flow really well with the pace of the game. Plus they aren't broken. Sprinters can be punished and charges can be dodged. Yea, you might get caught off by a few charges, but that does not mean they are overpowered or broken. As far as ground pounding is concerned, it does its job.
And then we have the thrusters. I love my thrusters. This is what helps make the game so fast paced. Thrusters can help you make plays or maneuver around the map faster and effectively.
I think, as far as multiplayer concerned, Halo 5 is the best Halo.
Forerunner
Member
The thing about bans is they continue to add up and nobody really knows what kind of formula they use. Personally, I think it has to do with that amount of games played. If you quit X games out of X many games. So you if you quit one game, but dont play for a few days or week and quit another when you come back youll probably get ban. So it has to do with the amount you quit, not the time period. However, this is all speculation, only 343 knows.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Weird thing is, it was a 9 hour ban, and now it's lifted.
Forerunner
Member
Ban system is weird though. I've quit a number of times and my bans range from nine mins to 30 mins. Most of the time it's whatever because I'll just go play WZ until it's done.
I'm pretty sure the time it lists is often broken, it's odd. I've had it pop up with a ban message after a disconnect and could immediately start playing.