VanCityGamer
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That's kind of true, but I think a game like Destiny The Taken King scratches a similar single player itch. And there are many multiplayer FPS games out there to quench that online shooter thirst.
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Halo 5 Review Thread
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That's kind of true, but I think a game like Destiny The Taken King scratches a similar single player itch. And there are many multiplayer FPS games out there to quench that online shooter thirst.
Also not a fan of making the extended universe stuff so important to the game's plot
Wish I had a friend with Xbone and Halo 5. I really want to buy the console and the game, but after Halo 4's MP, I really need to get to play the game myself before making the decision. 330 euros is a lot of money for someone who can only work 2 or 3 days a week thanks to uni.
Wish I had a friend with Xbone and Halo 5. I really want to buy the console and the game, but after Halo 4's MP, I really need to get to play the game myself before making the decision. 330 euros is a lot of money for someone who can only work 2 or 3 days a week thanks to uni.
Ah.
Then it would be logical to presume, that regardless if the game had hit all the high points & was perfect in every way imaginable, both reviewers & fans would bitch about it, no?
[Call-Me-G]
Banned
I'm really shocked by how Metacritic is important for you, on GAF... In France, yeah, we like debating on Metacritic. But I've never seen someone upset by a 85 metascore like here. I've never seen someone saying that 85 is a bad score, especially now that metascore are lower than 5 years ago. Never.
draughn101
Member
There really hasn't been many bad impressions from forum goers. Most people are digging it it seems
Guys, do you think that these reviewers played the campaign solo only and then reviewed/rated the campaign? I noticed some don't even bring up co-op play in their reviews or ratings.
I ask because what if these reviewers didn't play the game as intended, *ah-em* co-op *ah-em*, but rather by themselves. Thereby missing out on the crazy shenanegins of what playing with friends would bring. Potentially leading into lower ratings?
I ask because what if these reviewers didn't play the game as intended, *ah-em* co-op *ah-em*, but rather by themselves. Thereby missing out on the crazy shenanegins of what playing with friends would bring. Potentially leading into lower ratings?
stealth dammit 343 please bring back splitscreen so I can share the joys of this game with my friends when I visit post ^_^
PeregrinSe7en
Member
no matter how "perfect" a product may be, there will always be complainers.
it's in our nature to find faults in things
Poimandres
Member
Nothing like Halo though!
Believe me, I know. I'm a PS4 owner who had an Xbox and 360. Played loads of Halo 1-3 and nothing has scratched that itch for me since. I've got a decent PC as well, but still nothing fills Halos boots for me. Vanilla Destiny was fun in PvP but not balanced properly like a Halo game, and no way in hell am I paying full price for an expansion pack.
VanCityGamer
Member
That's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. To a newcomer, Vanilla Destiny + Taken King is the same price as Halo 5. They seem to scratch a similar itch and are quite close now quality wise.
Destiny's best PvP modes are 3v3 based, there is where it shines. I'm not sure if the new supers and weapon balance enchance that mode though.
But like you said, it ain't no Halo and that is fine.
VanCityGamer
Member
[Call-Me-G];183078647 said:
Are they really much lower? A 93 and a couple of 92's this year. A 97 or something crazy like that for GTA V. 95 for TLOU. The super high scores are still very much attainable, as they were 5 years ago.
Also, virtually no one is saying that 85 is bad. They are saying it is below expectations.
You are in a halo review thread, that's whats wrong
Go to any other Halo thread to answer your question...PeregrinSe7en
Member
you know what this thread could use right now...
a suhnilegend or eltorro gif to summarize how batshit crazy this thread is
i'm sure that would bring the lulz
a suhnilegend or eltorro gif to summarize how batshit crazy this thread is
i'm sure that would bring the lulz
Poimandres
Member
If I hadn't bought vanilla I would jump on TTK straight up! But it's a bit more complicated since I have a US PSN account and live in Australia. Can I buy an Australian copy and activate TTK on my US account? I have no idea, I assumed I couldn't.
If I can I'll wait for a sale and jump then.
Edit: this is getting wayyyy off topic. I'm going to take it out of this thread!
Yeah this is a problem for me because I have no interest in reading books which I don't even think are translated too my language too get the whole story.
receipts, let's go.
And what game is that?
Poimandres
Member
Yer I don't really think that is the case either.
This would be a really good blog post.
So let me get this straight, we're going to completely ignore the fact that almost all reviewers are unanimous in Halo 5 having the best mp since Halo 2 because some fanboys want to assess the game's metascore, which has been dragged by a 4 mixed reviews.
I just...I mean you expect this shit on N4G but here?
I just...I mean you expect this shit on N4G but here?
Ol No Bones
Banned
I haven't touched campaign yet bur the MP is the tightest most refined it has ever been in Halo. I need to see more maps and BTB soon but I'm almost confident in calling this the best competitive multi halo ever. All this after a few hours. The gunplay is good. Real good.
[Call-Me-G]
Banned
Something I noticed. And I'm not the only one apparently. I don't know, look at the review scores. Yes, there are still a a few really high metascores, but the range 85-90 was more present back in 2005-2010. Games struggle to have good metascores. And I think it's a good move.
Halo is an example: a LOT of reviewers and players say that Halo 5 is better than Halo 4. Far better. So why is it reviewed lower ?
Yeah, yeah... "Almost every", "universal"... Yeah, we don't share the same meaning of these words. A lot of reviewers and players (included me) don't share your point, and this "universal negativity", apparently:
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=182974511
Like I said before, people allways keep in mind bad critics...
Yep, never even been a big Halo fan myself (mainly because I'm bang average) but shooting people online just feels fucking great. Getting a kill is satisfying as it should be.
The argument that Game X would have reviewed with Score X last generation is overly simplistic, but Metacritic aggregates do suggest that there are significantly fewer higher scoring games on console than there were last gen. For example, Xbox 360 has 51 90+ games over its lifetime, which for all intents and purposes is 2005-2013 (I'm not counting DLC or remasters here, and I'm not counting Portal: Still Alive when it is included in The Orange Box). That is roughly 6.5 games per year. By contrast, the PS4 (the closest analogue to 360 given that this tends to be where most multiplatform games are reviewed) has 4 such games after roughly 2 years on the market. That is 2 games per year. That is a pretty substantial difference and it does seem to suggest some kind of trend.
Huggers
Member
I'd definitely be interested for someone to prove the Metacritic score deflation thing. I'm not sure there's any evidence of it at all.
The whole Halo 5 is better than 4 so why does it score lower isn't evidence of deflation. Only evidence that this specific formula needs to do more these days and that perhaps reviewers were soured slightly last time longer term. Again though it's franchise specific no?
Averaging it out over the whole gen and and then comparing with this gen could equally suggest that high quality console releases happen later in the gen more often
The whole Halo 5 is better than 4 so why does it score lower isn't evidence of deflation. Only evidence that this specific formula needs to do more these days and that perhaps reviewers were soured slightly last time longer term. Again though it's franchise specific no?
Averaging it out over the whole gen and and then comparing with this gen could equally suggest that high quality console releases happen later in the gen more often
Nickdogmoneycash
Member
Just got into this thread; what is the main complaint from the reviewers? The multiplayer or the campaign?
Chobel
Member
[Call-Me-G said:
Alright people, I need some receipts here.
EDIT: How the hell can I quote [Call-Me-G] correctly? The name breaks the BBcode lol.
It's the narrative. The MP is fantastic. The campaign is fun, especially co-op but the narrative isn't very good.
Z_Y
Member
I guess I'm in the minority. I thought the game sucked. Congrats on the big high rating number though.
edit: and I'm not saying that halo 5 is my goty. I have just started the campaign (about halfway through Chief's first mission). I just don't grasp the Bloodbourne love in general. I think the game is frustrating hot garbage. To each their own though. Comparing the two is like apples to sausages....but if I could only play one...
Yeah that's certainly possible, but by the end of its second year the 360 already had 11 such games which is well beyond what the PS4 will have by the end of 2015.
Nickdogmoneycash
Member
Wow.
Chobel
Member
Maybe it's because I dunno, 360 actually had better games in the first 2 years?
Huggers
Member
What about the PS3? How many did it have in the same time frame? I ask because I don't think that shows an overall change in scores. Just that the 360 had an unusual amount of good early titles.
I also feel like this is closer to the truth. Of course, this is my personal experience and nostalgia probably has something to do with it, too.
I'm not saying it can't be true. Maybe reviewers have started reviewing games more critically, which would absolutely be a good thing. But flat out claiming a "85 in 2015 is 90+ in 2010" is ridiculous.
e: adding the "jesus i thought this was known" was hilarious though, like it's the most obvious thing in the world when in reality it's just an asspull
Ocarina_117
Banned
Read the OT?
Yup, 2014 was a very underwhelming year as well. I mean god damn Shadows of Mordor won GOTY awards from a lot of sites. This year has been much better luckily.
Poimandres
Member
Yeah, the game is getting near universal praise from people in the OT (myself included), especially the mp, which is fantastic. It's the most fun I've had with mp in a halo game since 2.
Between 2006-2008 the PS3 had 9, so still noticeably more (and the PS3 was a bit of a mess early on).
Huggers
Member
It's still anecdotal though isn't it? I mean maybe there were just more good games. Rather than softer reviewers?
People are still surprised that a veteran halo player can blow through the game at difficulty designed for newcomers...
Shocking
Of course, and I'm not suggesting this is conclusive proof of anything, but I do suspect that we will see fewer high scoring games over the course of the generation and that this won't be because games are getting worse but rather because the critical climate is healthier and more diverse and less prone to rubber-stamping blockbuster games with glowing scores.
Nickdogmoneycash
Member
How should I know he's a veteran halo player? A 5 hour campaign on a blind run is short either way.