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[CyReN]

No mp
Three shot kill in sp
No original audio
Maps made for Reach

 

[duk]

No mp
Three shot kill in sp
No original audio
Maps made for Reach

= does not want

 

[Booshka]

Someone mentioned that the AR doesn't sound the same.

The AR in Halo CE was the only AR that actually sounded like it was gas-powered, now they sound like automatic nail guns. Going to be sad if the AR in Halo CE Anniversary sounds as bad as it does in Halo 3, it sounds decent in Reach, but nothing compares to how beastly it sounds in H1.

343 adding more reasons for me to care less and less about this remake.

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

Someone mentioned that the AR doesn't sound the same.

Three shot kill in sp

Whaaaaaa

this game is tearing me apart. OuterWorldVoice, my office, now.

 

[bobs...onGaf]

Whaaaaaa

this game is tearing me apart. OuterWorldVoice, my office, now.

I dont think there are 3sk in the campaign, I think Frankie just said that as its what the veterans love. Its kind of scary though that he thinks we care about it in campaign. I mean sure im glad it hasnt been nerfed, but the people who speak about it so lovingly are doing so because of the multiplayer, not the single player.

I really hope this isnt a sign that 343 doesnt truly get what the Halo veterans loved about the series, but at this stage my skepticism is at an all time high.

 

[CyReN]

New voice actors

Master Chief

Cortana

Sergeant Johnson

343 Guilty Spark

Keyes

----
Frankie bringing his A game.

 

[Sibylus]

Two Betrayals.

Eh, Two Betrayals is enjoyable, but it doesn't leverage the Flood beyond making them a third antagonist in fairly straightforward ground battles (ie spawn in corner, charge Covenant battle lines). I think Keyes used them more interestingly.

 

[Tashi]

Forgive me if this is old.

Source

Do we think that is genuine?

Wow, super sexy.

 

[clav]

Welp, I've concluded it's a bargain bin purchase unless something major happens.

Maybe something along the lines of:

"Oh JK guys. Since the netcode is the same for campaign, we decided to put it in original multiplayer. LOL"

Or some other head turner.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Aside from the graphics, what's new about it? I thought everything else about the campaign was being preserved.

Not what I meant. I mean reskinned. I was trying to say, I thought it was going to be like ODST, a campaign and the full MP suite from the current Halo game, rather than a campaign and a subset of MP maps. It didn't show Forge, either, so I'm wondering if you have to own Reach to Forge the maps.

Also, the box art has grown on me. I didn't dig it at first, but I'm liking it more and more. Stylish.

Does anyone know anything about the inclusion of Theatre mode?

We were discussing this in the Reach thread...a lack of theater mode would be a big deal. I assume it's not in, since getting theater working is a big part of Halo 3's engine (and Reach's). So if this is running under the Halo 1 engine with a new graphics layer, that would preclude a theater mode. Which would be a serious bummer, it's a standard feature of Halo titles at this point.

 

[soldat7]

Confirmed it won't.

Why touch the audio?

 

[Korosenai]

Why touch the audio?

The better question would be why not add multiplayer.

 

[Trasher]

The better question would be why not add multiplayer.

They are. Just a year after CEA comes out. It'll be called Halo 4.

It would have been a waste of time and resources to recreate an outdated multiplayer when in reality Halo 4 has been their main focus. Even if they did release multiplayer with CEA, you would have only played it for about a year because of Halo 4 coming out. Doesn't make that much sense from a business perspective.

 

[CyReN]

They are. Just a year after CEA comes out. It'll be called Halo 4.

It would have been a waste of time and resources to recreate an outdated multiplayer when in reality Halo 4 has been their main focus.

How is it outdated? Is that a new term for having a skill gap?

 

[NullPointer]

Since its a remastered version using the original Halo CE engine, this really should've been a $20 XBLA release, with the classic map pack sold separately on the same day.

Such a weird package. Might wait for a price drop - not sure. Need to see more and I'm still wary of how well the game performs. Just want to be sure.

 

[darthbob]

Since its a remastered version using the original Halo CE engine, this really should've been a $20 XBLA release, with the classic map pack sold separately on the same day.

Such a weird package. Might wait for a price drop - not sure. Need to see more and I'm still wary of how well the game performs. Just want to be sure.

B-b-b-but those 'cheevos!

 

[Grady Durden]

The better question would be why not add multiplayer.

Exactly. "Let's not give the people what they want!"

 

[The Librarian]

How is it outdated? Is that a new term for having a skill gap?

Yeah. I'm sure that's it.

 

[clav]

Exactly. "Let's not give the people what they want!"

This is what bothers me in the interviews I've read.

Here's an example:

Arstechnica has an article up regarding the CE remake.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/...is-a-complex-love-letter-to-original-game.ars

When asked whether or not there will be a way to play these maps with the original weapons and with the gameplay of the original games, everyone in the room grew coy. "We want to respect the classic game, and there are many ways to do that," we were told, and then promised more details of the different online options will be shared at a later date.

I think in their hearts, 343i wants to bring multiplayer, but Microsoft is not willing to pull resources to make this happen because they want Halo 4.

 

[NullPointer]

B-b-b-but those 'cheevos!

Its just that we've already seen these kinds of remastered games. They are always bundled together for a low price, achievements, improved online, etc. And as I'm more of a campaign player (and firefight fan) than versus, the maps really don't sway me. I thought Forge was already built from these spaces?

Anyway, I guess I thought it'd be a cheaper remaster, or a redone version in the Reach engine, or that it would include the entire Reach multiplayer and new maps. This is really none of the above.

Maybe I'm missing something? And no, I never expected Halo 1 multiplayer to be included.

 

[erpg]

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

 

[Apath]

Really? Just Halo 1 campaign with new graphics and seven classic maps? No multiplayer component at all? No prior Reach map packs? Pass.

If we never get a Game of the Year edition of Reach, or whatever, with all of the DLC packs included I won't be buying Halo 4.

 

[Trasher]

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

.

 

[Warm Machine]

Why touch the audio?

I don't think the orginal game was in 5.1 Just stereo.

 

[darthbob]

Its just that we've already seen these kinds of remastered games. They are always bundled together for a low price, achievements, improved online, etc. And as I'm more of a campaign player (and firefight fan) than versus, the maps really don't sway me. I thought Forge was already built from these spaces?

Anyway, I guess I thought it'd be a cheaper remaster, or a redone version in the Reach engine, or that it would include the entire Reach multiplayer and new maps. This is really none of the above.

Maybe I'm missing something? And no, I never expected Halo 1 multiplayer to be included.

2011 - Year of the HD Remake

I agree with lack of remade multiplayer, we don't need two distinct Halo MP games active right now, best not to split the community, but I see what you're saying. It's just a graphical/aural improvement over the base game with some a Halo Map Pack.

I'd wait til PAX to render a decision though.

 

[Booshka]

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

That's a hilarious argument in a Remake thread.

 

[lowrider007]

No mp
Three shot kill in sp
No original audio
Maps made for Reach

No original Audio?

That's a hard pill to swallow.

 

[CyReN]

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

Probably in the minority but I still lan Halo 1 to this day over lanning H2,H3,HR. It's a timeless games with the best mp hands down.

It still holds perfectly up fine.

 

[thezerofire]

They are. Just a year after CEA comes out. It'll be called Halo 4.

It would have been a waste of time and resources to recreate an outdated multiplayer when in reality Halo 4 has been their main focus. Even if they did release multiplayer with CEA, you would have only played it for about a year because of Halo 4 coming out. Doesn't make that much sense from a business perspective.

How is it outdated? Is that a new term for having a skill gap?

Everyone knows that rewarding a player for being good at a game is an outdated concept

 

[darthbob]

Probably in the minority but I still lan Halo 1 to this day over lanning H2,H3,HR. It's a timeless games with the best mp hands down.
It still holds perfectly up [sic] fine.

Over LAN...

 

[thezerofire]

Over LAN...

if they could make Perfect Dark have online multiplayer there seems to be no excuse

 

[darthbob]

if they could make Perfect Dark have online multiplayer there seems to be no excuse

Have you played Perfect Dark's multiplayer online?

Or Halo PC online?

It's just a bad experience for everyone involved.

 

[Neverfade]

I was also interested in this until I learned that any MP wouldn't be with the original Halo MP engine. No thanks, guys.

 

[thezerofire]

Have you played Perfect Dark's multiplayer online?

Or Halo PC online?

It's just a bad experience for everyone involved.

Gearbox had to deal with 56K for Halo PC, surely 343 could have done better now

 

[NullPointer]

I'd wait til PAX to render a decision though.

Sounds good. I know I'll get it at some point as I've longed for a remaster or remake of Halo. Its just a matter of when and at what price.

 

[Trasher]

Have you played Perfect Dark's multiplayer online?

Or Halo PC online?

It's just a bad experience for everyone involved.

Yup. I still remember playing Halo PC online for the first time. It was not the same game that I had loved on LAN. Completely different experience.

Look, I would love a Halo CE multiplayer on Live just as much as any of the people here who are complaining, but I'm not so naive as to believe that it would be the same experience I remember from ten years ago playing in the basement of my house with friends.

In the end we should all be happy that we are getting a new Halo relatively soon that will be made by people who clearly respect the things that made that first Halo so great in the beginning.

 

[user_nat]

Halo PC still had a pretty noticeable host advantage over LAN when it came to pistol duels. We use to take it pretty seriously and have a PC with no one playing as host. Which occasionally resulted in "accidental" kills on the guy not playing.

 

[bobs...onGaf]

Have you played Perfect Dark's multiplayer online?

Or Halo PC online?

It's just a bad experience for everyone involved.

If they worked on the netcode it could be a pretty good experience, I played Halo PC to death despite the lag, a cleaner Xbox Live version would have been heavenly

 

[Riposte]

10-15 dollars too expensive

 

[gutter_trash]

I hope the lighting isn't too dark, because that trailer seemed dim and muffled in parts

 

[DR3AM]

no orginal mp = no buy

people already remade the halo 1 maps in forge mode

 

[GhaleonEB]

I hope the lighting isn't too dark, because that trailer seemed dim and muffled in parts

I suggest listening to the current Sparkcast, they talk about the lighting a bit. They brigtened up and otherwise retextured areas to make them a bit more easy to navigate compared to the original.

 

[Deleted member 81567]

3 shot kill?! Wtf?! Link/source/details?

 

[Tashi]

I don't think that CE's multiplayer is out dated but I am glad that the decision to make it Reach multiplayer was made.

 

[thatbox]

Probably in the minority but I still lan Halo 1 to this day over lanning H2,H3,HR. It's a timeless games with the best mp hands down.

It still holds perfectly up fine.

Over LAN...

A ton of the people in the presumed target audience for this product successfully played Halo CE over the internet on their Xboxes in 2002 using tunneling software.

If 343 can't compete with XBC or Xlink Kai ten years later with the original Halo source code at their fingertips, they're either lazy and going after the easy money or they're incompetent. My money is on greedy and lazy, because having thoroughly enjoyed playing Halo CE online ten years ago I find it extremely hard to believe that it's somehow impossible to do in 2011.

I suggest listening to the current Sparkcast, they talk about the lighting a bit. They brigtened up and otherwise retextured areas to make them a bit more easy to navigate compared to the original.

Judging by the trailer, "brightened up" means "washed out with bloom."

 

[bangai-o]

came in here expecting discussion about the great campaign. Instead its bitching about multiplayer.

 

[Trasher]

3 shot kill?! Wtf?! Link/source/details?

Huh? You didn't know the Halo pistol was a three-shot weapon?

*checks profile, sees Dr Eggman's age*

Oh, you were only eight years old then.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Can I just say that I DON'T want to play a Halo remake on 360?

It's just not that exciting.
I played Halo3 and Halo Reach. I know what Halo looks like on the 360. And frankly guys, by today's standards those games look pretty dated. Halo is 10 years old, it's hard to believe but it's true. Even harder to believe is how good it looks by today's standards. GUARANTEED IN 5 YEARS HALO1 LOOKS BETTER THAN THIS ANNIVERSARY EDITION. It's absolutely guaranteed Halo1 as it is will age better than this remake. It's just... I want Halo to be exciting again.

We've had three very great games with today's tech. It's time to put Halo away for a few years and bring it out when the tech available can truly offer something new and exciting. If the next Halo isn't going to rape through a mailbox the second I boot it up, then why even bother?

 

[Deleted member 81567]

Huh? You didn't know the Halo pistol was a three-shot weapon?

*checks profile, sees Dr Eggman's age*

Oh, you were only eight years old then.

It flew. Right over your head.

 

[GarthVaderUK]

Seriously looking forward to this, the original doesn't work with my monitor (down to being the shitty PAL version I think?) - it's been so long since I last played it now!

I'll be diving straight into online co-op with my best mate on release day
I'm not bothered by the lack of Halo CE multi as I wouldn't have played it anyway, but the remake maps for Reach will get some playtime.