Poodlestrike
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But I can, 'cause I'm just a listener, which makes this not self-promotion, but rather another example of the fanboyism that goes sadly unbanned all across the Gafscape.
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Halo Lore Thread
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But I can, 'cause I'm just a listener, which makes this not self-promotion, but rather another example of the fanboyism that goes sadly unbanned all across the Gafscape.
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Captain Zyrain
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GringoSuave89
Banned
I am sending killing thoughts to you. Are they working? (I rewatched Scanners last night)
Ummm...no? I always look like this!
I couldn't resist, but I immediately liked the FB page as penance.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Ummm...no? I always look like this!
I couldn't resist, but I immediately liked the FB page as penance.
<3
Samurai G0SU
Member
Would you suggest this be the only necessary reading? I haven't read any of them and want to learn more about halo lore.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Would you suggest this be the only necessary reading? I haven't read any of them and want to learn more about halo lore.
What, any of the books?
If you're just starting out, go for The Fall of Reach first.
Some ideas, if you're more interested in the essential stuff, and don't care about publication history:
http://www.forwarduntodawn.com/chronology/
http://www.forwarduntodawn.com/chronology/
wesleyshark
Banned
Woah that's the best looking list I've seen yet.
Samurai G0SU
Member
Yeah, yeah nothing =/ I'm really late and behind. I feel now is a good time to get caught up. Would you suggest then.. in this order
Fall of reach
First Strike (happens between Halo 1 and 2)
Ghosts of Onyx (during/post Halo 2)
Glasslands (post Halo 3?)
Escalation issues 8-10 (post Halo 4)
Poodlestrike
Banned
Start with the first 3 things you listed, as they're pretty much the crème de la crème. If you've played all the games, you can branch out from there to whatever catches your eye.
Samurai G0SU
Member
Okay thank you! I'll get them asap and then read escalation. Since blue team is mentioned in it and feels it may be a big part of halo 5.
Captain Zyrain
Member
That's pretty cool! It's so well done I hope it gets a lot of exposure.
publicpwnerer
Member
Hey, just wondering if anyone knows of, or can recommend a quick and coherent synopsis for Halo 1-2? (preferably in video form).
I'm thinking of doing a play through of Halo 3-4 to catch up for 5.
I'm thinking of doing a play through of Halo 3-4 to catch up for 5.
samurai1226
Member
There is a video series on Waypoint which retells the story from H1 up to the start of Halo 4.
publicpwnerer
Member
Thanks for that, appreciated.
That's intentional, in that it's intended only to be a more essentials kind of thing. Halo Wars at this point is still pretty tangental to the main story, and Spartan Assault and Spartan Strike are likewise pretty light on meaningful plot. If things change in the future they might merit an addition. Same reason that Broken Circle, while I enjoyed it, is not recommended reading for the books (and Cole Protocol, which I personally didn't enjoy.)
MrGreencastle
Member
Based on that one slide in that one issue of Escalation, Halo Wars may end up being the explanation for why the Flood come back though. I wouldn't put it past 343i to pull some of that fiction into the limelight in the future, even though it's pretty tangential right now. They love their "reverse-retcons".
"A single Flood spore can destroy an entire species. Were it not for the Arbiter's counsel, I would have glassed your entire planet!" -Halfjaw
We will see. 343 has a lot of balls spinning in the air, so I expect we're not going to hear much about the SoF anytime soon considering the bait-and-switch we got with them in Escalation
Captain Zyrain
Member
[Long] Ponderings.. Known lore spoilers ahead
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First,
Halo: Hunters in the Dark is scheduled to be released on June 16th, 2015. Microsoft has not yet announced the date of their E3 conference, but if they go off prior years it should be on June 15th, 2015.
Hunters in the Dark summary..
Since the book comes out a day after the E3/Halo 5 conference, I would guess it's going to be tied in to the narrative somehow. Something they don't want us to explicitly know BEFORE the conference. Except.. the book takes place in 2555, 3 years before the events in Halo 5.
Now.. after the cover/Blue Team reveal I got to thinking.. what if Hunters in the Dark has Blue Team (minus Chief obviously) working with the Elites?
Linda-058's bio on Waypoint says:
It would make a perfect segue to seeing them again in Halo 5. A bit of "what the heck were they doing this entire time?". I could also see them using it as a chance to explain why we never saw Blue team in Halo 3 (through flashbacks/exposition). This would also give newcomers to the fiction time to read the book and learn more about "Blue Team" before Halo 5 drops later in the year.
Flaws in this theory? The Spartan depicted on the cover is NOT Kelly, Fred or Linda. At least judging from the armor. Though it's entirely possible someone else was assigned to Blue Team in John-117's absence. Putting that Spartan on the cover would keep the secret better.
Other thoughts? Locke's team? Unlikely, as the Sedra mission (Halo: Nightfall) takes place in early 2556, so it's extremely unlikely that Locke is a Spartan/Has Spartan armor. Could be Buck & Romeo, as they finished their mission on Talitsa in August 2555 and requested to be on a new team. This mission seems like an ONI op, so their presence would make sense, and would also be another good primer for their inclusion in Halo 5 (#TeamLocke).
Second,
The Hunters in the Dark cover obviously shows very alive Blind Wolves on Installation 00 "The Ark". If Blind Wolves managed to survive, would it not stand to reason that The Flood would have/could have survived as well?
In the "Eleventh Hour Reports", when the UNSC Rubicon was dispatched to The Ark in 2557 it was noted that some creatures could have survived:
Curious to see how this will line up with Hunters in the Dark, as it takes place 2 years later. Why wasn't 343GS found then?
Third,
The last issue of Escalation (at least the current arc) releases on July 29th, 2015. Summary:
The digital single, Halo: Saints Testimony, by one Mr. Stinkles is scheduled to be released on July 27th, 2015. With that date proximity I can't imagine they are not intertwined in some way.
We've got so much Halo goodness coming our way.. I am excite!
obviously
First,
Halo: Hunters in the Dark is scheduled to be released on June 16th, 2015. Microsoft has not yet announced the date of their E3 conference, but if they go off prior years it should be on June 15th, 2015.
Hunters in the Dark summary..
Since the book comes out a day after the E3/Halo 5 conference, I would guess it's going to be tied in to the narrative somehow. Something they don't want us to explicitly know BEFORE the conference. Except.. the book takes place in 2555, 3 years before the events in Halo 5.
Now.. after the cover/Blue Team reveal I got to thinking.. what if Hunters in the Dark has Blue Team (minus Chief obviously) working with the Elites?
Linda-058's bio on Waypoint says:
It would make a perfect segue to seeing them again in Halo 5. A bit of "what the heck were they doing this entire time?". I could also see them using it as a chance to explain why we never saw Blue team in Halo 3 (through flashbacks/exposition). This would also give newcomers to the fiction time to read the book and learn more about "Blue Team" before Halo 5 drops later in the year.
Flaws in this theory? The Spartan depicted on the cover is NOT Kelly, Fred or Linda. At least judging from the armor. Though it's entirely possible someone else was assigned to Blue Team in John-117's absence. Putting that Spartan on the cover would keep the secret better.
Other thoughts? Locke's team? Unlikely, as the Sedra mission (Halo: Nightfall) takes place in early 2556, so it's extremely unlikely that Locke is a Spartan/Has Spartan armor. Could be Buck & Romeo, as they finished their mission on Talitsa in August 2555 and requested to be on a new team. This mission seems like an ONI op, so their presence would make sense, and would also be another good primer for their inclusion in Halo 5 (#TeamLocke).
Second,
The Hunters in the Dark cover obviously shows very alive Blind Wolves on Installation 00 "The Ark". If Blind Wolves managed to survive, would it not stand to reason that The Flood would have/could have survived as well?
In the "Eleventh Hour Reports", when the UNSC Rubicon was dispatched to The Ark in 2557 it was noted that some creatures could have survived:
Curious to see how this will line up with Hunters in the Dark, as it takes place 2 years later. Why wasn't 343GS found then?
Third,
The last issue of Escalation (at least the current arc) releases on July 29th, 2015. Summary:
The digital single, Halo: Saints Testimony, by one Mr. Stinkles is scheduled to be released on July 27th, 2015. With that date proximity I can't imagine they are not intertwined in some way.
We've got so much Halo goodness coming our way.. I am excite!
Great, thank you for this. The cover reveal has me interested in exploring more of the extended lore.
wesleyshark
Banned
I had to read this all twice it was so good. You may be onto something here!
Captain Zyrain
Member
We shall see.. scant weeks left!
On another note, I decided to revisit the Forerunner trilogy again, since I haven't read them since they were released. So it's been, 4 or 5 years since I read Cryptum.
WOW! So much better the 2nd time. I remember reading it the first time and being, like, "WTF is this!" since it was all.. well, alien to me. Reading through it again, and with the context of the rest of the books & Halo 4, is amazing.
CRIMSONxSERAPH
Neo Member
I just acquired all of the books except Evolutions - Vol I and Broken Circle in paperback (don't have the $ for hard cover, though I'd love that). I have them all digitally, but I wanted to physically own and collect them. My goal is to re-read all of the books before H5G's release.
GringoSuave89
Banned
I don't think either one came out as hardcover. I know Broken Circle didn't.
Captain Zyrain
Member
That sounds like a good idea..
So, Cryptum is from the iso-Didacts POV and Primordium is 343/Chakas? For some reason I thought they were all 343/Chakas.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
I've said it before, but I really, really wouldn't look too much into that eulogy. The date is just supposed to show that Reach has recovered, at least partially, from the glassing by that date, and the planet has begun proper rebuilding. It's a pretty safe bet that Halsey is not actually standing there eulogizing Noble-6 on Reach in 2589, or even likely at any time or place at all, ever. Like many such monologues from numerous works, it shouldn't be taken as a literal, canonical speech being given. It's just a narrative technique.
Rightful Chaos
Neo Member
Now could you help explain that to the people who keep going on about Ur-Didact at the end of 4?
Blue Ninja
Member
Yup, this.
This is one of those things that does boggle me as to why it's confusing. I guess I should blame their lack of film literacy or something... it's a pretty common technique. Putting that aside, via context the only way it makes sense is if it's before the fall of the Forerunner anyhow, although I guess the Didact's sense of "victory" is what confuses people on that score.
Oh, I'm totally expecting them to retcon that as the reason.
Until there's contradicting lore, though... that's what I'm going to go with. I don't think we have any hard lore yet on how long a planet actually takes to recover from a glassing. That I know of, anyway.
The Real Napsta
Member
Just watched the Halo 4 terminals for the first time. No idea why it took me this long to check them out.
Pretty cool.
Pretty cool.
CRIMSONxSERAPH
Neo Member
I always took it to be the Ur-Didact defending his stand against the humans, and also his dislike of the Halo array. He wanted to keep the Mantle of Responsiblity, and "receding" would remove the Mantle from the Forerunners' grasp.
Captain Zyrain
Member
So now I'm reading through Primordium again (so much walking!), and noticed that Chakas had his geas awakened when he helped Bornstellar, then more so when he met the Didact, and then became fully formed when he visited Charum Hakkor.
I wonder if 117's geas may operate the same way? Was the encounter with the Halo or other Forerunner objects setting it into motion? Did fighting the Didact accelerate that process (or via the Librarian?). Perhaps if 117 finds some ancient human world, he'll awaken personalities inside himself? Could work from a game standpoint since in previous games Cortana was always "in your head" and she's apparently gone.
Could be interesting, it would have to be done really well though to not be completely confusing to non-Lore people though.
I wonder if 117's geas may operate the same way? Was the encounter with the Halo or other Forerunner objects setting it into motion? Did fighting the Didact accelerate that process (or via the Librarian?). Perhaps if 117 finds some ancient human world, he'll awaken personalities inside himself? Could work from a game standpoint since in previous games Cortana was always "in your head" and she's apparently gone.
Could be interesting, it would have to be done really well though to not be completely confusing to non-Lore people though.
Captain Zyrain
Member
Halo: Last Light details (Thanks Grim)...
Can't wait to read it! MOHR BLUE TEAM!
Can't wait to read it! MOHR BLUE TEAM!
Poodlestrike
Banned
Oh damn, that sounds cool. Blue team, murder mysteries, ancient forerunner artifacts, a teamup between Covenant remnants and the Insurrectionists... mmm.
Tasty.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Huh, I can dig it. Sounds pretty interesting, and a bit more of a side story than a connective one.
Captain Zyrain
Member
I had (some pages back) totally postulated that the upcoming book on the Ark would star Blue Team.. I guess I was a little off!
Still makes sense to 'reintroduce' Blue Team and hopefully let them expand on where they were during Halo 2/3.
Still makes sense to 'reintroduce' Blue Team and hopefully let them expand on where they were during Halo 2/3.
GringoSuave89
Banned
So, I'm guessing the female Spartan is Takara?
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GringoSuave89
Banned
Ooooo good catch! Forgot all about her.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Her bio there says she's probably dad.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Gah back to square one haha. Does anyone have a pic of Tanaka in Escalation?
Captain Zyrain
Member
She likely dad in 2553.. this book takes place in 2553...
Tanaka didn't become a Spartan until later I believe..
Poodlestrike
Banned
Oh, that's true. Maybe that is her and she dies in this.
Maybe she's the killer, even.