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Halo |OT 20| It really does feel like Halo

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Steelyuhas

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Havok said:
Then I'd separate multiplayer into a separate, evergreen project with a continuous revenue model (through premium subscriptions, cosmetics, whatever) that receives constant content, feature, and balance updates through the life of the console until it is no longer technically feasible, delivering campaigns on normal production cycles as lower-priced add-ons to a base product. The AAA "complete package" model is actively harmful to players that enjoy older projects. The constant cycle of "the new game is coming out, guess the old game is never getting a playlist update ever again" is awful. Treat multiplayer like a sport. Variety is added by the constant drip of new content, whether that's new maps, new meta features, new gameplay elements. Hitting the reset button every three years is counterproductive.

It would almost be like a modern, sustainable product that learned lessons from the most popular single-studio multiplayer games today.
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kittens said:
Two things of interest here:
1. No ordnance drops, yay.
2. Arena with a capital A? I'm telling yall, 4v4 and BTB are going to be radically different.
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Yeah, it seems very likely based on the announcement of the H5 MP/beta that it will have at least a couple of very distinct "sections", Arena being one of them.
 
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Diablohead

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XBL is down, that Halo 20GB patch must be taking a toll on the servers
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AlStrong

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kittens said:
Yeah, as of this very moment I'm looking forward to playing Halo 2 on legendary again, but I'm sure Cairo Station will make me change my tune quick. It's the only Halo game I don't find fun on legendary... But maybe I've gotten better since I last played. :-\
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mm... yeah, I've only beaten H2 Legendary completely once back on Xbox. I did make a half-ass attempt to go through on Vista (much easier with a mouse :p), but my game saves got borked with GFWL at one point and the achievements didn't save, so I just never bothered with it again (better things to do). It was extremely irritating, but... there really wasn't much else to hold me to playing through again, especially with the odd stuttering framerate I had.

I guess I had the most problems with Halo 4 solo legendary due to the Prometheans (never bothered to finish it on legendary, actually), though my overall frustrations with the game had already been building up to the point where I just couldn't stand playing H4 anymore.
 
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singhr1

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jem0208 said:
Yup, I feel like BTB is going to be crazy. I think it might be two completely different areas of the menu as well.

You'll have a section called "Arena" and a section called "Warfare" (or something) instead of one area for multiplayer.

I think we're going to see 16vs16 or higher.
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So its Halo 2 coming back to life? I remember Bungie was trying to go all out on MP making it really ambitious and huge but had to cut it near the end leaving only the smaller scale stuff left.
 
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jem0208

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singhr1 said:
So its Halo 2 coming back to life? I remember Bungie was trying to go all out on MP making it really ambitious and huge but had to cut it near the end leaving only the smaller scale stuff left.
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That's exactly what I was thinking.

I remember watching an interview (or something like that) about Halo 2 which mentioned exactly this.

Diablohead said:
XBL is down, that Halo 20GB patch must be taking a toll on the servers
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Not down for me.
 
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Demoncarnotaur

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I still think bits of the leak are true. 343 is out there clarifying things like fair starts, and no ordinance drops but not touching on the rumored player abilities.

kittens said:
Two things of interest here:
1. No ordnance drops, yay.
2. Arena with a capital A? I'm telling yall, 4v4 and BTB are going to be radically different.
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Yup, Nktnl said BTB was huuuugge, more like Halo takes on Battlefield.

Frankie also said BTB fans have a lot to look forward to.
 
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AlStrong

Member
Sephzilla said:
I dunno, people didn't complain too much when Halo 3 came out and it wasn't a very significant change from Halo 2 in the least. Same with Gears of War. Bayonetta 2 isn't much different from Bayonetta 1 and its the GOTY for a bunch of people. Nintendo also tends to stay close to its roots with their core games, and they have so much money now that they could lose $200 million for the next two decades and still be perfectly fine.
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Yeah, especially with Gears... most complaints were netcode & weapon balance. One of the best new features was the target painting, but that's more a communication thing (I think was discussed recently).

At least by having the same overall gameplay features, I think that helps the level designers focus more on something that works well and come up with new levels for that rather than having to rethink everything with wild new features that could even break the gameplay flow of older fan-favourite maps (that inevitably get brought forward).
 
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Poodlestrike

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Demoncarnotaur said:
I still think bits of the leak are true. 343 is out there clarifying things like fair starts, and no ordinance drops but not touching on the rumored player abilities.



Yup, Nktnl said BTB was huuuugge, more like Halo takes on Battlefield.

Frankie also said BTB fans have a lot to look forward to.
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Man, I hope so. A cleaner split between 4v4 and BTB could only be good for both modes. BTB gets to really cut loose and go crazy, 4v4 gets to handle that smaller scope much better. Good for map design as well.
 
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Diablohead

Member
Running sprint off a building into a double jump to hijack a banshee mid swoop attacking someone else.

Ok something like that for big team battle has me slightly excited for new moves.
 
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DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
iMax said:
I have question. As we know, a lot of people don't seem to like Halo 4.

If you were making Halo 5 from a Halo 2 base, what would you add in terms of mechanics and features?
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AA in the form of oddball skulls, replacing powerups
Wall jumping (only once per initial jump)
First person vehicle driving
Active reload...
Grenade prime and time before throw (on hold)
Radar markers /on screen tags using dpad to relay very select info to team
I'd put timers on power weapon and power up spawns
I'd bring back flag contesting (with a nice little gui element to show the contest zone) and sudden death
I'd have to think about more stuff though
 
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klodeckel

Banned
Demoncarnotaur said:
I still think bits of the leak are true. 343 is out there clarifying things like fair starts, and no ordinance drops but not touching on the rumored player abilities.



Yup, Nktnl said BTB was huuuugge, more like Halo takes on Battlefield.

Frankie also said BTB fans have a lot to look forward to.
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Honestly I hope for something like 16 vs 16 matches (or even more). That would be awesome.
 
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jem0208

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Diablohead said:
Running sprint off a building into a double jump to hijack a banshee mid swoop attacking someone else.

Ok something like that for big team battle has me slightly excited for new moves.
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This.


I'm thinking of how epic Titanfall can be, except combined with Halo's higher TTK, much more satisfying shooting, excellent vehicle combat, much higher skill ceiling...

That sounds like my dream game.

DopeyFish said:
Radar markers /on screen tags using dpad to relay very select info to team
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Why isn't this already a thing?

Halo is a pretty team based game, yet it lacks such a basic and useful feature.
 
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Demoncarnotaur

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Poodlestrike said:
Man, I hope so. A cleaner split between 4v4 and BTB could only be good for both modes. BTB gets to really cut loose and go crazy, 4v4 gets to handle that smaller scope much better. Good for map design as well.
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klodeckel1990 said:
Honestly I hope for something like 16 vs 16 matches (or even more). That would be awesome.
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Yup, I could really get into a hugely revamped BTB. I'm very optimistic for what may come.
 
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Fahzgoolin

Banned
Poodlestrike said:
Man, I hope so. A cleaner split between 4v4 and BTB could only be good for both modes. BTB gets to really cut loose and go crazy, 4v4 gets to handle that smaller scope much better. Good for map design as well.
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I completely agree with this. If BTB is more of the silly craziness that Halo can offer, I would probably love it as a break from the more intense arena gameplay.
 
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DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Another thing I'd add is increasing complexity of a playlist depending on the average level of players in the game

Flag contesting, no radar, hitmarkers , map weapon sets, base speed all shift the higher in levels you go

Makes all playlists for the casuals and for the pros too and helps remove a lot of redundancy in what playlists you have
 
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klodeckel

Banned
New 1080p/60fps videos.

Halo 2 Anniversary Zanzibar Oddball Stonetown in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GBbcNyD-qA

Halo 4 Vertigo Flood in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LktCP0th_TI

Halo 2 Anniversary Lockdown Slayer in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgNzXCiCD6U

Halo 3 The Pit Oddball in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3PhdjLj9YU

Halo 4 Haven Capture the Flag in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOb98PRF51w

Halo 4 Abandon SWAT in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4x6eKwYJmY

Halo 2 Anniversary Sanctuary Slayer Shrine in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvK3Kj03b7E

Halo 4 Haven SWAT in 1080p- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG2s0HLeh7g

Halo 4 looks so amazing from a technical standpoint. And ... The dedicated servers seem to be working very well.
 
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Prinz Eugn

Member
YourExWife said:
Oh hey, so apparently this finished uploading after I fell asleep. Myself and 2 other HaloGAF types (daedalius and Prinz Eugn) discussed the MCC on Episode 2 of Bitchin'. This was recorded Sunday night so some of the discussion is dated (already!) but check it out if you haven't already:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cx09YRUG-c

Also, I didn't post it when it released since it was OT, but I'll take this moment to plug Episode 1 - Destiny here while I'm at it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng_U1HVyMDM
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Watch this. Behold the whiteness on display:

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The Flash

Banned
klodeckel1990 said:
New 1080p/60fps videos.

Halo 2 Anniversary Zanzibar Oddball Stonetown in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GBbcNyD-qA

Halo 4 Vertigo Flood in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LktCP0th_TI

Halo 2 Anniversary Lockdown Slayer in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgNzXCiCD6U

Halo 3 The Pit Oddball in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3PhdjLj9YU

Halo 4 Haven Capture the Flag in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOb98PRF51w

Halo 4 Abandon SWAT in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4x6eKwYJmY

Halo 2 Anniversary Sanctuary Slayer Shrine in 1080p - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvK3Kj03b7E

Halo 4 Haven SWAT in 1080p- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG2s0HLeh7g

Halo 4 looks so amazing from a technical standpoint.
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Calm Killer

In all media, only true fans who consume every book, film, game, or pog collection deserve to know what's going on.
kittens said:
I realllly can't wait for HaloFest now.


What the hell. How anyone can place that map beyond their top 5 is beyond me.
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Complete blasphemy! The complete article is terrible.
 
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