NobleGundam
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What if the exposed parts are an option now? That would be great.
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Halo |OT 20| It really does feel like Halo
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Yep. The other issue is that with all that exposed under-suit, it looks more and more like it belongs in Crysis and not Halo.
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[img]http://i.imgur.com/jYt40.png[/img]Chief just looks so much more exposed in Halo 4 than in the previous versions.
(Secondary nitpick - stop taking the color out of his suit)
I guess I'd be okay with it. But it still would look massively out of place in my opinion though.
Helioskrill looks awesome.
His feet are weird
gAg CruSh3r
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Oh okay, then I totally agree. It's okay for random fun games but not for competitive playing field.
Deputy Moonman
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Gabotron ES
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Would love to see another take on the Invasion mode, but maybe more akin to Overrun in Gears Judgment with the A.I. Could be a blast with dedicated servers and much higher character counts + vehicles. Throw in a scarab on defense...
24 players Invasion with the possibility to spawn AI via drop pods would be awesome.
It's an Sangheili design. So I suppose it's modeled after the Elites?
There doesn't seem to be that much more undersuit visible on 4's chief than the others... It actually seems to blend in a bit more which is nice. My only real issue with 4's design is the floating shoulder bits. Other than that I actually prefer it to the older designs.
His stomach is exposed in the others as well, even more so with CE's design.
I think it was also intended to be a bunch of removable pieces as well. In the final cutscene in 4 the way they remove it is by taking all the different pieces off. I actually think the whole "one solid suit" thing would be a bit weird. How exactly would they take it off and on again?
Cortana's are worse.
There's no denying that Infinity Slayer basically became a glorified Fiesta Slayer. Especially due to the fact that the weapon drops were completely RANDOMIZED.
I think the Halo 4 armor's chestpiece is a little smaller and almost his entire abdominal region is exposed. Just my opinion but the Halo 4 armor looks more like a bunch of separate easily removable pieces, while the Halo 1, 2, and 3 armors look a bit more like one solid "suit".
The Elites had better be rocking plasma swords when they come out.
There are times when I look at the new chest pieces and I'm more reminded of armoured parachute harnesses tbh.
The final cut-scene of H4 rubbed me the wrong way with the armour just falling apart. I mean it was very cinematic and all, but it just didn't seem right.
Just want to share some of my thoughts regarding that recent Halo 5 info leak.
If I read some of the comments here I am really not sure what some actually expect from Halo 5. The comments with complaints always have one thing in common: they don't want to see new things. Whatever 343 Industries will add to the current sandbox formula - HaloGAF is always complaining. It is a situation they can't really win.
Halo 5 will offer something new. Because it needs to. Keep the main gameplay feel but add fresh elements. They need to find the right balance here. It is the next main installment of one of the biggest IPs out there. They can't just release a Halo 2 MP map-pack with better graphics again. They will definitely try new things. 343 has some amazing talent - why limit this artificially? There is a chance some things will work very well - and others won't. That's why we have a real beta one year before the actual release of the final game.
If all you really want is the pure and classic Halo 2/3 gameplay, then you will get your thing in 6 days. And you can play it until the end of this generation - or even further. But this shouldn't exactly the same route Halo 5 will go.
To tell you the truth, I think the leak is legit. It just fits in my opinion. All the elements and especially that new game-mode he described seem to take the "eSports" and "Arena shooter" gameplay direction.
I know that most of the complaints here are based on what they got with Halo 4. There are concerns because of how that game handled its multiplayer. And I can totally understand that. Really.
However, I hate generalizations and prejudgments based on a very simple written text. So maybe we should just wait - we will see things on our own in a few days. Personally, I am very confident that 343 Industries will do things right with Halo 5.
If I read some of the comments here I am really not sure what some actually expect from Halo 5. The comments with complaints always have one thing in common: they don't want to see new things. Whatever 343 Industries will add to the current sandbox formula - HaloGAF is always complaining. It is a situation they can't really win.
Halo 5 will offer something new. Because it needs to. Keep the main gameplay feel but add fresh elements. They need to find the right balance here. It is the next main installment of one of the biggest IPs out there. They can't just release a Halo 2 MP map-pack with better graphics again. They will definitely try new things. 343 has some amazing talent - why limit this artificially? There is a chance some things will work very well - and others won't. That's why we have a real beta one year before the actual release of the final game.
If all you really want is the pure and classic Halo 2/3 gameplay, then you will get your thing in 6 days. And you can play it until the end of this generation - or even further. But this shouldn't exactly the same route Halo 5 will go.
To tell you the truth, I think the leak is legit. It just fits in my opinion. All the elements and especially that new game-mode he described seem to take the "eSports" and "Arena shooter" gameplay direction.
I know that most of the complaints here are based on what they got with Halo 4. There are concerns because of how that game handled its multiplayer. And I can totally understand that. Really.
However, I hate generalizations and prejudgments based on a very simple written text. So maybe we should just wait - we will see things on our own in a few days. Personally, I am very confident that 343 Industries will do things right with Halo 5.
Der Flatulator
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Halo 10 Chief suit will be the black body suit with only a grey helmet and codpiece.
Diablohead
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I still remember clearly seeing Halo 2's chief for the first time and going WTF to his armor, lol.
I like the design for halo 4 and they did a brilliant job in the details but it's weak compared to his halo 2 setup, which IMO looks a lot more iconic now then ever before.
At least the halo 2 Anniversary fmv's keep the green of his suit without watering it down.
I like the design for halo 4 and they did a brilliant job in the details but it's weak compared to his halo 2 setup, which IMO looks a lot more iconic now then ever before.
At least the halo 2 Anniversary fmv's keep the green of his suit without watering it down.
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RowdyReverb
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I want to beat all 4 campaigns on legendary + solo, but I've never tried Halo 2 on legendary. Is it as hard as they say?
Excellent post. I agree completely. Especially...
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I'm all for new gameplay mechanics. There is so much time between the reveal and launch that plenty of feedback will be heard and the new stuff can be tweaked accordingly. Halo 5 is going to be a good game. Have faith people.
Jackal snipers in Halo 2 have RoboCop tier accuracy
Jackal snipers are giant bitches.
I actually hate this argument. People don't have issues with new things if they're good. Dual wielding (from everything I remember) was embraced by the Halo community. Equipment in Halo 3 was embraced by the community. Hornets were embraced. Gungeese have been embraced.
People like and want new stuff if it's actually good. The reason people are apprehensive about Halo 5 having new stuff is because a lot of the new stuff introduced in Halo 4 wasn't that good.
Poodlestrike
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I like it, actually. Makes them look a lot leaner and more mobile. It wasn't great in Halo 4 where the shiny, bumpy, colored undersuit was just way too visible, but with a muted tone to it it looks pretty good.
There are new gameplay mechanics (double jump) and then there are stupid stuff (visible timers on weapon spawns).
I thought Cairo Station was harder, but maybe that's just me.
I actually agree with you. Jackal snipers are annoying because if you screw up you're dead almost instantly, but it's easy to figure out where they are and pop them off quickly with a little trial and error. On Cairo Station your weapon variety is pretty limited and if you don't have a Noob Combo equipped you're in for a rough time.
Conkerkid11
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I just got an Xbone recently. Did those region locking changes recently made ruin any chances of playing the digital version of Halo MCC early through the use of an alternate account or VPN?
Because why level the playing field?
What's wrong with that? As long as it's possible to disable it, or it doesn't clutter the UI too much.
I actually love the suit design in Crysis, it's really cool.
Bullshit mate.
There are alot who said new movement abilities are fine ( myself included) but stuff like Charge and Groundpound sound like Destiny Supers. Floating is just unneeded, Ledge climbing will truely be annoying and these are all reasonable complaints.
OFC there also some special guys here who are always "ew new stuff, fuck dat" but not this time, if double jump replaces jetpack I'm fine, if thrusting is the new ability instead of normal sprint I'm fine.
Though all those movement things will just mean one conclusion:
Every map will be way bigger
Poodlestrike
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So long as you can turn it off for customs, I'm all for including weapon timers in matchmaking. At least, if handle it like H2A's weapon icons (you can't see them through level geometry). Players who've learned the spawns will still be at an advantage, and lower-tier players have some tools to help them learn.
squidhands
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NobleGundam
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yes. prepare to get wrecked. probably the hardest halo to beat in legendary bcuz 1sk jackals.
How would double jump break maps?
Wasn't the guy who made that thread generalizing a personal problem? I thought it was just him and nothing changed.
The Cryptarch better be a playable character
Poodlestrike
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Depends how the maps are designed, doesn't it? I mean, it's not like the jetpack where your verticality is so massively increased that it becomes impossible to design around.
This is what I picture happens when as part an goes Monster Hunter on an elite.Helioskrill looks awesome.
The only thing I don't like about it is the weird floating elbow bit.
I will admit that Nightfall has some weird proportions though.
Yeah, it would heavily influence map design.
I don't really see the need for a double jump in Halo what so ever.
is a playable class, comparable to a Rogue or Thief in other games
And don't frighten the children because they're frightened anyway
Poodlestrike
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I'm all for increased player mobility, honestly, so long as it doesn't carry the negative side effects of sprint, i.e. screwing with the traditional mobility+shooting dynamic, or providing an easy escape route.
It means you're much more mobile, which can both make the gameplay more interesting and increase the skill gap substantially. Combine double jump with thrusters and IMO you get awesome.
Will probably end up being the next jetpack. Wait for the inevitable comparisons and responses to all these changes. "How does jetpack break maps? Just design them with jetpack in mind, problem solved". "
To me that seems like it shakes up the core gameplay a little too much. For the pace of Halo I think you're already pretty mobile considering how high a spartan can jump plus the added bonus of crouch jumping.
Adding double jump would also probably kill the possibility of adding many legacy maps to Halo 5. The way smaller legacy maps would be played would be completely changed / possibly ruined. Ivory Tower, for example, with double jump I just don't think would be much fun.
Poodlestrike
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The difference is, Jetpack was an AA, so not everybody had it. You *couldn't* design maps with the Jetpack in mind.
This is something I've noticed with some of the Halo 4 and Halo 5 armor.
Especially in the helmets.
Look at the Mark VI
compared to
It's subtle, but the new Mark VI helmet feels off. The same way the Halo 3 ODST helmet looked better than the Halo 4 and 5 counterpart. Also, Scout Helmet going from H3 to H4. It's almost as if 343 elongates it or something. Idk it just feels off.
So this virtual surround headphone tech I made a thread about needs to work its way over to Xbone. I need me some glorious headphone surround Halo.