ViewtifulJC
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They probably got Campaign sections built around sprinting and using ADS and shit
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Halo |OT 21| Battle is the Great Redeemer | LIVE. DIE. RESPAWN.
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They probably got Campaign sections built around sprinting and using ADS and shit
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Fahzgoolin
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The Real Napsta
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How many episodes of night fall are there going to be?
I mean I knew it, but this is 343i saying that they won't even consider it.
Good stuff. Can't wait to try the beta. Lets just hope it works better than MCC.
Deputy Moonman
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Id be really interested in knowing when development started for mcc. Its obvious it was done in a crunch. Its almost like something microsoft wanted to push out at the last minute to have a big holiday title and a shocker announcement at e3. I would guess it was done in under a year. Maybe 8 months tops? Anyway, i havent heard anything more about the next patch. Gonna be out by friday?
Haha i may have to adapt. Really just want mcc fixed proper so i can do that for a year or more.
NobleGundam
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I'm not worried over skill jumps. It's primarily giving clamber access on too many places on map that could make it unbalanced. Which based on what we've seen so far isn't a big issue so long as they keep it limited like Truth and Crossfire.
I think that problem is more of a map design issue than an inherent problem with clamber.
As long as maps are designed properly with it in mind then it shouldn't pose too much of an issue really.
Ragnarok Flames
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just showing that they dont listen to the core halo audience.
YOU, yes.
Not with Sprint, Clamber, and Thrusters.
need more snoop dogg bluntz voice overs
Bhahaha 343 giving options...
Look, Jem likes an addition that is hand holdy. news at 11.
Seems like their design docs are all labeled with "ignore sprint, and add all modern things"
NobleGundam
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That's pretty much how I feel with most of the spartan abilities. Except with ground pound. Charge was rarely ever used.
Ragnarok Flames
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yeah, but the maps we've been getting from 343; have all been increased in size due to their predilection to Sprint much to the chagrin of the Vocal majority
Bregmann Roche
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Late to this, but yeah, on the shotgun toting defender. Player A has teammates who call out "guy camping shotgun" Player B does not. Both Player A and B had teammates randomly assigned before the game began. That's luck.
Why are we pretending that simple callouts are some huge skill gap thing?
Vocal majority, lol.
You're out of your mind if you think your average gamer wants sprint nixed.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
the average gamer doesn't know halo from the hole in their ass. they are too coddled by BF, Titanfall and CoD.
hahahaha.
Seriously though, Halo 5 is going to flop. People will have already had enough of it by the end of the Beta.
Ragnarok Flames
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kittens
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I still haven't watched a single episode, wow. I honestly forgot it existed.
After Destiny being bad and MCC being broken my interest in games is the lowest its been at in like five years (when I didn't play games at all). I'm getting Dragon Age this week, and it sounds fun, but I'm also pretty content just not playing games much. It feels weird, lol. I kind of miss them, but I can't generate the interest.
RowdyReverb
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I'm ok with clamber. It can't be any more map-breaking than jet pack, and everybody has the ability from the get go. So long as maps are designed with that ability in mind, it shouldn't break flow.
That said, I can't really figure out any reason for adding it aside from "all the other guys are doing it", which is a valid reason I suppose from a business perspective.
That said, I can't really figure out any reason for adding it aside from "all the other guys are doing it", which is a valid reason I suppose from a business perspective.
Poodlestrike
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Man, don't even bother. This place isn't going to be livable until the "Halo is dead" crowd either gets over their issues or moves on.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
because constant ass kissing and positivity is any better. and people that dont like the changes should "get over it, and or move on"?
This place could also do without the "stick to your past games" or "move on" mentality as well. We all have our own personal stakes in the future of the franchise. So why wouldn't people fight tooth and nail against changes they don't want? If you're cool with Halo 5 changes? Cool. If you're not cool with Halo 5 changes, that's also cool.
I think people just don't want to read your complaints and comments about the game because it's the way you come across. You (sometimes) come across as disrespectful and that rubs people the wrong way obviously.
If it was me I would try and explain the type of Halo I would like to see. Rather than pick a part the next Halo. We sort of have to be a team here and try and get some of the major concerns addressed. We won't get everything, that's just the nature of a new Halo, but we can try and get some of the big ones brought up.
The average gamer is what makes MS money, this is a business.
Orochinagis
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And thats worries me a lot.
Eh, I'm thinking more about Forged maps being an issue. If you could set items as "clamber" edges, that could prevent exploits, but then again that adds in player confusion over what you can actually clamber over. I'm guessing people are gonna' need a lot more walls or soft kill boundaries.
And at the same time they're telling us our feedback is valued and impactful. Right...
Yeah these days, it's the initial launch that makes them the most money. It's why so many games are getting discounted so quickly. The initial pre-orders, sales the first month basically make them the most profit. So as long as they can appeal to those flavor of the month gamers who buy whatever is new, as well as get positive reviews, they're happy. They don't care whether a handful of nerds are talking about weapon kill times 10 months from launch.
Who knew they'd actually listen to the EGM reviewer in the end though. I mean honestly, there is little to no positive for giving us this ADS/Smart Scope. But it's there. I was thinking in my mind, why does a 7 foot super soldier with a massive helmet and Visor with hud display have a BR scope right in the middle of his view too.
It's so obvious we're not who the core audience is anymore, and that they know they pretty much have our sales, it's the others they need to get.
I have to agree with the smart scope talk. I mean from a lore point it's technically been in the game but honestly I've never understood why any of the guns have scopes on them at all. The smart scope stuff from a lore standpoint always meant your scope was in your visor. It was built in. The only reason that a scope would exist is for the marines but this new idea of smart scope doesn't fit with how I imagined it. This is one of those things I hope 343i will see and revert back to classic zoom. (Bonus would be without having a scope physically shown on the gun. It's the future!)
Munch Poke
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Hey guys and gals, I've been waiting to post for quite some time now.
I'm one of those oddballs who really likes sprint and had no problem with Reach (besides armor lock/sword block) and Halo 4. So I'm sure my opinion will fit in really well here.
I'm always on MCC trying to load a game so lemme know if anybody is down for a round or two.
I'm one of those oddballs who really likes sprint and had no problem with Reach (besides armor lock/sword block) and Halo 4. So I'm sure my opinion will fit in really well here.
I'm always on MCC trying to load a game so lemme know if anybody is down for a round or two.
I just don't get this... Whatever. It's not like me complaining will achieve anything. Eagerly awaiting the new reviews. "Halo has evolved, it's no longer the decade old slow shooter of the past" "The King has Returned!" "Bungie, who?" "9.9/10".
The horns look so ridiculous too.
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kittens
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Everything being discussed in terms of oppositional extremes is a big reason why this place can get annoying sometimes and you're like the crown prince of that.
Son of Sam
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I've loved Halo since CE, and i still think CE is one of the best shooters ever created. Yet, i even think Halo had to evolve. Playing CE and Halo 2 is crazy fun but it only lasts for a short while.
Halo had to evolve. People that think otherwise are naive.
Halo had to evolve. People that think otherwise are naive.
My favorite part is this beautiful blind spot.
Whereas the amount of visibility in H2A is just overwhelming to the senses.
buddha0991
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I think I like Halo 2's 2nd half a fair bit more than I used to
NobleGundam
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Jet pack needs to stay away for awhile. It's fun in special gametypes like the Elites with Jet packs on fiesta was sorta cool. But hell that ability was right next to armor lock needIng to be scrapped.
Oh and those zealots that defended Armor lock before and after the nerf. Holy hell that was terrible back then...
Poodlestrike
Banned
You'd have a point, if that's what I said.
Not what I said. I'm not saying that people who don't like the new features should put up or shut up, I'm specifically talking about the forgone conclusion crowd.
I'm gonna call it: it was just Halo 2 Anniversary until Microsoft forced the rest of the games to be added less than a month before E3
Munch Poke
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Burn the heretic!
/s Welcome.
This is exactly the type of response I expected and wanted after posting that. Thank you.
So, grabbing the new sword on the midship remake means you run faster yes? Is that the only new weapon type we've seen thus far?
Oh yeah, I'm going to give the beta the full run through. Will probably have tons of tl;dr posts of thoughts. Don't think anything will really change, but you never know. I'm going into the beta as a pessimist though.
My favorite part is this beautiful blind spot.
Whereas the amount of visibility in H2A is just overwhelming to the senses.
At least we know where the power button is for the BR now. Also, in case you want to up vote or down vote there's two buttons for that too.
I would lose my shit if there was a "Turn on/off reticle", and a big Spartan finger would reach up into the view and press that little button each time.
Would rival this from BF4.
Hahahahaha I love you mastrbiggy. I was waiting for this. Heres some reasons that have been discussed to death.
More competition. Large Halo 4 initial sales (lower total sales) low player retention suggesting general dissatisfaction with the game... not fun, nothing to achieve. Halo 5 looks the same in that it is a Halo for babies due to constant medals, announcer constantly telling you every obvious fucking detail, spartan chatter, it's a sensory overload which becomes tiring. XBL ranking and Halo 4 population Graphs etc.
Halo becoming more and more like call of duty with every iteration now, it isn't differentiating itself enough. There is a large player base on xbox one now that is interested in classic arena shooters, classic Halo due to the MCC, not Halo 4 style halo filled with armour abilities. Halo 5 containing sprint, endless armour abilities, huge maps is a massive fuck you to these fans.
Not to mention the fact that 343 has absolutely butchered the MCC launch, tainting the previous quality and completeness associated with Halo (also seen with the lack of features in Halo 4). Word of mouth has spread, and the Halo brand is viewed a lot differently now, due to saturation, and to 343s direction with Halo 4 plus completely failing to redeem themselves with the MCC.
There are few positives associated with Halo 5 such as everyone starting equally and weapons being on the map, however, armour abilities are cheap gimmicks and far from what makes Halo and a lot of people can see this. Halo 5 is again, like Halo 4 a run or gun shooter rather than a run and gun, constantly having to sacrifice the ability to shoot. It's far from Halo.
As for why I insist on belittling fans and a game many of you are excited for... probably to fit in here, or more likely because I genuinely believe that the game is bad for Halo due to reasons said above. I'm a fan of the franchise myself, just not of Halo: Reach, Halo 4 and it's definitely looking like I won't be getting Halo 5. Halo: Reach I believed could be fun, it wasn't. Halo 4 I bought into the hype and it was a new numbered title many were unsure if it would ever happen, I, along with many others thought Halo was back... it wasn't. Halo 5 is filled with cheap tricks designed to build a perception of depth, everyone spawns with the 1 hit kill ground pound for fucks sake. Not to mention the lame attitude of the spartans high fiving, the terrible looking jump into the arena.
This is getting out of hand and definitely isn't well constructed I'll give you that but 343 are ruining this franchise and it's reputation has been tarnished. Trends in the franchise suggest that Halo 5 will sell less than Halo 3, Halo: Reach and Halo 4 and I'd be willing to guess it will have less total sales than MCC, even with the botched launch.
Computer
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343 not willing to budge on the sprint issue is a slap in the face to a lot of Halo fans. I don't like the ego they show to the community at all. Frankly is pisses me off.
In the words of Josh. "A lot of fans think sprint dose not belong in Halo. So we put it in anyways"
Keep catering the the cod players that will drop your game in a week. You will have yet another failed game under your belt.
In the words of Josh. "A lot of fans think sprint dose not belong in Halo. So we put it in anyways"
Keep catering the the cod players that will drop your game in a week. You will have yet another failed game under your belt.
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