"They" added 4 things from that list with Halo 4. 4 out of 15 isn't the "majority". At least not from my understanding.
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"They" added 4 things from that list with Halo 4. 4 out of 15 isn't the "majority". At least not from my understanding.
Somebody please find that Halo Bulletin where bsangel talks about camping.
TriStateTryHard
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"Strong Competetive Focus
Changes adding to the core gameplay instead of fluff
Emphasis on Map traversal
Emphasis on map control"
...and the rest is just subjective bullshit.
How do Sprint and ADS "add to core gameplay"?
What do you want to tell me now? That Reach had a competetive focus or even map control? I think we are done here.
It isn't even a functional ads mechanic. But whatever.
How is a tier based ranking system, viable automatics reduced aim assist "subjective bullshit"?
TriStateTryHard
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How do Sprint and ADS add to core Halo gameplay? You made that statement. Now back it up.
No, you claimed he made that statement. He never specified sprint and ads exactly.
And again, it's not even functional ADS...
Neither I did this statement nor Halo 5 will have a real ads functionality. And you seem to have had no problem with sprint in Reach, so that's that.
Features
- Beta a year ahead of release
- Equal Starts
- Focus on Map Movement
- Focus on Map Control
- Spectator Mode
- Skill Based Ranking System
- Strong Competitive Focus
- Detailed Scoreboards
- Enhanced Forge
Gameplay
- No AAs
- No Random Ordinance
- No Grenade Hit Indicators
- No Equipment
- Significantly Less a Auto Aim
- Balanced Weapon Sandbox
- Fast MinimumKill Times
- Thruster Pack
- Toggles for how abilities work
- In Game Call Outs
- Deeper Gameplay with SAs (e.g. you can combine clamber with other abilities)
- Faster base movement (still a bit slow)
This is all just based off of what we know so far. We haven't even scratched the surface of the game yet and we already have a lot of stuff people have been wanting in Halo.
I think there should be achievements for even booting the game up successfully.
The Henery
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First two games of the day, all six voting options were AR starts. Quit them both immediately! GG 343
TriStateTryHard
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Well firstly Sprint isn't a "change" given that it's been in since Reach.
I'd assume he was referring to Spartan Abilities which are core abilities that everyone has as opposed to a selection of abilities players may or may not have.
Isn't there a Facebook group where the 3 of you can go argue?
But they weighted BRs more...
But they weighted BRs more...
TriStateTryHard
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Sprint is a base player trait in every Halo 343 created and none of the Halos Bungie created.
NEVER FORGET
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Whoops didn't see the "base" part there.
Even then though, we are talking about additions in Halo 5 that add to core gameplay. So sprint wouldn't actually count here.
One day I want to setup my phone to record my screen and capture the time it takes to play the game, and do this like...daily.
Sprint in Reach is vastly different than its implementation in Halo 4 and Halo 5. In Reach, it was an armor ability, meaning if you wanted it, you went without something else. Ergo, if you wanted jetpack or armor lock, you couldn't sprint.
Contrast this with the universal sprint present in Halo 4 and soon Halo 5. Now instead of the odd man with sprint, everyone can sprint. In Halo 4, a certain perk even allowed you unlimited sprint, meaning no cool down either. Couple this with other options and you could now sprint all map long, quickly jetpack somewhere else, sprint away and then bring up your hard light shield etc.
In Reach, it didn't last as long as you'd think, plus, there were very loud audio cues at the beginning and or end/cancellation of sprint to tell you someone just sprinted nearby etc. It all sucks in each version though. But as this point, it's useless to complain, they've basically said they're not going to listen to feedback on it, so it's whatever. The line in the sand has been drawn.
A) Why would we go to Facebook?
B) What makes our eternal battle worse than the constant updates on how much the MCC sucks?
ElzarTheBam
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343 YOU HAVE TORN THIS COMMUNITY APART
ODDONE ISNT BANNED
THIS IS ALSO YOUR FAULT
#BUTTS
ODDONE ISNT BANNED
THIS IS ALSO YOUR FAULT
#BUTTS
That "no Armor Abilities!" is crap to me. "Spartan Abilities" are the same thing as Armor abilities. It's just now, you can use all of them, and aren't limited to just one.
Playing Halo 4 with an entire enemy team using thruster packs, jet packs, whatever ability, was frusturating. Why is that going to change in Halo 5?
Playing Halo 4 with an entire enemy team using thruster packs, jet packs, whatever ability, was frusturating. Why is that going to change in Halo 5?
ViewtifulJC
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you were supposed to bring balance back to the Halo community not leave it in darkness
Ha, i have my kinect unplugged, i never use it.
The difference is that they aren't tied to a specific load out. In 5 you know exactly what each enemy is capable of doing. In Reach and 4 you had no idea what your enemy's AA was until they used it. Turning it into a bit of a guessing game.
30 seconds.
You can also do it without the Kinect by double tapping the Xbox Guide Button and then hitting X. After double tapping, it gives you a text prompt "Press X to record."
I haven't touched Halo theater since Halo 4 launch. I used to go crazy recording fun stuff in Halo 3 or Reach, but when file share never worked in H4 for so long and the fact waypoint was garbage and required sign ins, I never used it much. I've had a lot of cool moments in MCC already, but what's the point of making fun videos now. Who will I share with? Where? Does anyone even care?
Hmm, I will have to try that. Where can you upload the videos to?
TriStateTryHard
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"It's not 343's fault. MCC was outsourced."
"It's not 343's fault. Microsoft forced them to knowingly release a broken game."
"Changes in Halo 5 add to core gameplay."
"ADS is just visual!"
"343 added ranks and descope. Can't you just be happy?"
Enter The 36 Chambers
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This never happened. I've been told the game works fine so your just whining.
That's gotta be it right? Cause the game works fine.
Or so I'm told.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
"the game is improving, there are listening to complaints."
Yeah, its gone from barely functioning to semi-functioning in a month's worth. Round of applause.
Maybe in month 3 they'll get rid of AR starts in 2015
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Not sure if these or the anime fans are worse
Well, the game works fine for me. I have no idea how his copy of MCC manages to break the OS. Guess he's just unlucky.
Wasn't the fact that sprint was an AA a problem since it added to randomness?
There are 2 audio cues for sprint in Halo 5 for sprint. The thrusters burning at full speed and footsteps. As for the unlimited sprint, maybe that's something that can be changed in the Beta. A toggle for sprint in custom games probably won't happen though. If it does I'll be pleasantly surprised.
#thecurseisreal
Well for one, the main issue I've always seen was that Armor Abilities created randomness because you weren't sure who had what. That is no longer the case.
Jet packs aren't a thing.
What list of abilities are you even looking at?
- Thruster Pack
- Ground Pound
- Shoulder Check
- Slide
- Clamber
- Hover
- Smart Scope
Of those 7 abilities, 1 shouldn't even be considered an ability, 3 passively enhance movement, another is a sudden burst in movement, and only 2 have any offensive capability both of which are difficult to use.
Is it really that difficult to believe that some of us actually like the look of Halo 5? That doesn't make us "343 apologists"
Although defending the MCC is a bit silly.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Yeah you're right. We gotta stop people like Biggy spreading propaganda about this perfectly functioning masterpiece.
User 73706
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I blame Supreme Commander Tawp and his old guard fleet
It's not fully functioning. I still have difficulty finding matches in BTB and occasionally the balance is off my one or two players. Although, I haven't really experienced any campaign bugs and my game has never crashed.
Every player seems to have varying degrees of success on what works and what doesn't.
TriStateTryHard
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I think that if 343 said that SWAT would be replacing Team Slayer as the main playlist in Halo 5 you would be like" well that makes sense, the market has changed, halo needs to evolve, people just don't want to play 10 year old Team Slayer anymore."
And you would be like "another H2 map pack or Halo is dad". About as senseless as your comment. Stating things the other never said. "You would be like ...". Lol. Where are we here? Kindergarten?
Honestly - you are just blaming everytime. How would your Halo 5 look like?
I genuinely can't tell if you're a troll or simply live up to your name.
You cherry pick small arguments while ignoring everything about the context they were made in and then flanderize the hell out of them.
Who's apologizing?
Did ANYONE here even once say that nobody should be mad? Did anyone say that 343 are totally free of blame?
No.
Our latest topic of debate was in regards to the accusation that 343 don't care because they released a broken game and aren't putting everything on hold to fix it. This isn't hyperbole. TryHard is pissed that they aren't stopping EVERYTHING to work on this game and because of that they obviously don't care.
Are you telling me you think ANYTHING about that is a realistic, logical, or rational expectation?
Yeah we're the crazy ones here.
AllIsOneIsNone
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That's not thinking.
TriStateTryHard
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More like the games that created the Halo brand and less like a CoD-Crysis hybrid with a Halo skin on it.
This is about my feelings with this thread right now:
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I await the day we can live in love and peace.This is about my feelings with this thread right now:
Until then though, ETERNAL STRUGGLE IT IS.
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