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Halo |OT 21| Battle is the Great Redeemer | LIVE. DIE. RESPAWN.
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That's what I'm afraid of...
I'm going to guess it's still a toggle as the RS click is still a option.
Going off the YouTube videos, I play using Bumper Jumper so it still uses the standard Halo controls.
I mean, I don't think there's anything to be "afraid" of if all the legacy control schemes are in the game.
Regarding a CoD-like control scheme: I won't be bothering to use it, but I think the gameplay would be very frustrating to those used to CoD or BF anyway considering descoping is a distinctly Halo-related mechanic.
I guess so. More "afraid" of the slow crawl to parity with other FPS's instead of it retaining it's identity.
realtalk
I stopped playing MM for a while because all of my matched up teammates are always shit.
JIP killed the Halo player. No ranks, no penalty for quitting, no necessity to get better at the game. Just run and gun and who cares if you die? Hit X to instantly respawn and get back in the action immediately!
If they just made all the stuff toggle for custom games and specific matchmaking playlists...I think it would be find, do you?
"Oh look, we've gotten some more feedback from the beta testers."
-343 Industries.
I'm hungry
I'm still in shock when the 343 dev in beyondentertainment said, "because everyone expects it."
How can you design games that way?
This isn't something like regenerative health, this is a fundamental gameplay mechanic that does NOT need to be a standard in Halo. At least with health regen, we can go into custom games and toggle that to be what we want it to be. But with sprint, they're just conforming to conform. I don't get it.
How can you design games that way?
This isn't something like regenerative health, this is a fundamental gameplay mechanic that does NOT need to be a standard in Halo. At least with health regen, we can go into custom games and toggle that to be what we want it to be. But with sprint, they're just conforming to conform. I don't get it.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Some people are happy about being given a broken game.
The important thing is that "immersion" shouldn't mean "realism." A character doesn't need to realistically interact with the environment in order to feel tightly coupled to the player. If anything, I find that unrealistic "simpler" movement mechanics are actually better for this, because a gamepad doesn't offer very fine-grained control; complicated systems with context-specific components tend to be clunky and abstract control away from the player, which can make things feel less consistent. If I miss a jump in Halo 2, I missed a jump; if I miss a ledge-grab in a game with soft controls and context-specific shenanigans, I OMG GAME WHY DIDN'T YOU RESPOND CORRECTLY ARGH I AM FRUSTRATE.
Yeah, it's bizarre.
For campaign gameplay, the choice of health scheme is tremendously impactful to the overall design and gameplay flow.
lolwut
I'm pretty sure that the amount of salt towards 343i around here has increased tenfold or more compared to six weeks ago. Folks who didn't like them from the get-go are now frothing at the mouth and/or ranting (many good points to be made for sure) and folks who were more optimistic are now more guarded. Hell even Jem has expressed much dissatisfaction with the MCC, and he's been called out as a "slrpr" more times than anyone around here.
I'm a very glass-half-full guy myself, but the events of the last five to six weeks unfolding have me a whole lot more guarded than I was expecting to be.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Garrett lmfao, "games found: 23" slays me.
The amount of 343 arse kicking and salt here ain't any less disgusting.
/such quality posts. much value. wow.
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Thanks for the broken game 343! You're the best!
Please intentionally break Halo 5 and then ship it.
Just for MCC nostalgia! #weback #haloscool #ionlypostherebecausefrankdoes.
NobleGundam
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Haha the kids before defending ADS cosmetic didn't realize that it effects the spread in those vids but I'm glad a few of us here saw into that BS ahead of time.
You don't need ADS if the proper tweaks still do the same effects. Want AR to shoot with less spread? Than do it without smart scope.
Whose bright idea to make Prophets Bane even more effective by applying ADS with it is just bad and shouldn't work on halo mp.
Welfare
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The "amount" doesn't matter. They deserve it.
I really hope the details of the new patch or the post with it explains something with the dedis. I think that's the biggest issue affecting me, personally. The lag is sometimes unbearable and I feel like a total dick for quitting games; but sometimes I'm more of a hindrance in them since I just get murked without even knowing it.
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Wow.
What I don't understand is, what was the point of MCC? I mean, obviously there was a lot of work that went into creating the game, and majority of Halo fans love Halo 2's gameplay. The H2A is pretty fun and entertaining to play.
So what if I go into Halo 5 "expecting" where I left off with Halo 2 Annv, since that's technically the latest greatest Halo game?
The need to fundamentally alter the game from one sequel to the next makes no sense to me. Halo 2 was pretty good, though coming from HCE it was a big adjustment. Halo 2 to 3, not as big of an adjustment. H3 to Reach...full out over-haul of the game. Halo 4...well, that was a nightmare of epic proportions.
Now we have Halo 5, it's got "what everyone expects" in a console first person shooter today. I'm curious, who established this "what everyone expects?" Is it the Halo fans? I highly doubt it. So then who else do we have? The non-Halo fans. Why do we give a crap what a non-Halo fan wants? They have their precious COD, let them continue to be milked by Activision.
It's like the whole Nintendo Wii thing, the core audience was given the middle finger, and Nintendo started catering to Moms and Grandmas.
So what if I go into Halo 5 "expecting" where I left off with Halo 2 Annv, since that's technically the latest greatest Halo game?
The need to fundamentally alter the game from one sequel to the next makes no sense to me. Halo 2 was pretty good, though coming from HCE it was a big adjustment. Halo 2 to 3, not as big of an adjustment. H3 to Reach...full out over-haul of the game. Halo 4...well, that was a nightmare of epic proportions.
Now we have Halo 5, it's got "what everyone expects" in a console first person shooter today. I'm curious, who established this "what everyone expects?" Is it the Halo fans? I highly doubt it. So then who else do we have? The non-Halo fans. Why do we give a crap what a non-Halo fan wants? They have their precious COD, let them continue to be milked by Activision.
It's like the whole Nintendo Wii thing, the core audience was given the middle finger, and Nintendo started catering to Moms and Grandmas.
Welfare
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This is literally CoD influencing 343.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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This is amazing hahahahahaWho runs this and can they not make it embarrassing?
"Who won IG Columbus? Click on this THC link and find out!"Who runs this and can they not make it embarrassing?
Better?
Who runs this and can they not make it embarrassing?
lol
Who runs this and can they not make it embarrassing?
I love it.
It seems that the primary purposes above all else were for it to be a marketing tool (get the Halo name back out there, sell some consoles, increase Halo 5 hype) and as a cash grab (outsource everything to the lowest bidder). I wouldn't have called it a cash grab before, but with how haphazardly everything in the collection seems to have been done and the lack of progress in fixing it, it sure as hell is looking that way.
I mean, we're a month and a week after launch and the game is still in a state that would be unacceptable for a beta.
This is amazing.Who runs this and can they not make it embarrassing?
Who runs this and can they not make it embarrassing?
Not nearly as embarrassing as creating a new wannabe Halo pro site because you got mad.
Welfare
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o wow :lol
Zeouterlimits
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OdysseusVA
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LOL
I suck.
Who runs this and can they not make it embarrassing?
Probably ran by 343
User 73706
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RIP whoever runs that
also i think we should probably establish a rule that contextual dramatizations / putting shit in quotes doesn't really excuse throwing around homophobic slurs when there's no reason to
also i think we should probably establish a rule that contextual dramatizations / putting shit in quotes doesn't really excuse throwing around homophobic slurs when there's no reason to
Zeouterlimits
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Is there a way I can say "knowing is half the battle" and not be an asshole?
Because that's how I mean it.
Oh believe me, it doesn't. I'd "RIP" but that garbage doesn't deserve it.
Oh please tell me what you would do.
Welfare
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I need patch notes.
Nothing on Waypoint yet, another 1gb though.
The messaging from 343 isn't exactly honest either, and this is for both MCC and Halo 5.
Josh said in a past tweet, no penalty for aiming from the hip. Well, then why are full auto weapons getting a positive for using ADS? Logically speaking, using the AR while not using the ADS is in fact a penalty. You're penalized with a larger spread of bullets.
Then a 343 guy goes on a forum and explains the essence and design philosophy behind sprint...but then you can basically throw all that explanation out the window once he says "it's expected by most players today".
I realize these guys want to make a multi-million dollar AAA Halo game, I get that, I really do. But to think they have to conform to COD-society in order to be successful is basically them giving up as designers. They can't come up with anything original anymore. On top of that, someone at MSFT has 343's hands tied, and I hate when a publisher puts their two cents into game design. A publisher needs to worry about the marketing and advertising of the game, let the designers do their job.
Earlier this morning before going to work, I was doing some Halo 5 youtube searching and watched a full team slayer match on the middy remake...I wasn't impressed at all. Graphically it's nice, but the gameplay, it was just boring as snails. It doesn't have the excitement at all of a Halo 2 league match. The AR starts were boring, spray n pray isn't fun to watch. When the rifles were picked up, the entertainment factor went up a tad, but how entertaining can it be to shoot at people carrying ARs?
Every spawn, sprint, sprint sprint, pick up a weapon, fire, die, respawn, sprint, sprint, sprint, thrust, melee, thrust, die, respawn, sprint, sprint, sprint, aim down the sights with AR, spray n pray.....it was boring to watch. I saw zero map control. I saw zero power weapon control.
You want to make a point by showing how 343 is making similar mistakes with sprint and other mechanics? Great, that's your opinion and you have every right to do so.
But retweeting the most hyperbolic BS in the world was a joke and an embarrassment as a member of HaloGAF.
edit: I want to point out also that I've never had an issue with you or your posts, I just thought retweeting some childish comments was a bad move, imo.
Things to look forward to when I get off work....waiting for 1gb to take hours to download.
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