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[SalientOne]

People without a rank yet should only be placed in games with other people who haven't received a rank.

The system hones in on a player's skill before their CSR rating is exposed. There is a hidden skill value that isn't revealed until the 10 games are complete. Which is to say, you may be playing with/against players of like skill even though they are still in their qualifying period.

The other thing to keep in mind is that MMing takes time to find like matches within the available population (people actively searching, not playing a match). After some time the match parameters expand and you may be placed in a game with people that are outside (above/below) your skill band.

This timing is a delicate balance because we have a limited population in beta and we have to balance MMing time with quality of match. If we take too long to match for skill, people start dropping out which extends the search time and eventually you get a timeout error. If we expand too quickly, you get more lopsided matches, which in a heavily skill-based game like H5 can lead to a frustrating/unsatisfying experience.

The good news is that even within the limited beta population we are seeing a majority of close games with both teams being competitive. This will only get better as our MMing algorithm improves and population increases at launch.

 

[User 73706]

I like to bring Wahrer along because he's bronze abs gets me matched up with scrubs i can dong on

lol, I've been doing this with GAF since Reach. Mostly with ExWife, but I've absolutely been the reverse-backpack for Halo parties before.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Rank in team gametypes should be decided by wins. Don't play ranked team games solo if you want to win. It's that easy.

Also, they could remove motion tracker so that if I search alone, I could make a difference as an individual player.

 

[VisceralBowl]

edit: nvm

 

[Granadier]

The system hones in on a player's skill before their CSR rating is exposed. There is a hidden skill value that isn't revealed until the 10 games are complete. Which is to say, you may be playing with/against players of like skill even though they are still in their qualifying period.

The other thing to keep in mind is that MMing takes time to find like matches within the available population (people actively searching, not playing a match). After some time the match parameters expand and you may be placed in a game with people that are outside (above/below) your skill band.

This timing is a delicate balance because we have a limited population in beta and we have to balance MMing time with quality of match. If we take too long to match for skill, people start dropping out which extends the search time and eventually you get a timeout error. If we expand too quickly, you get more lopsided matches, which in a heavily skill-based game like H5 can lead to a frustrating/unsatisfying experience.

The good news is that even within the limited beta population we are seeing a majority of close games with both teams being competitive. This will only get better as our MMing algorithm improves and population increases at launch.

Thanks for stopping in a providing some input on the MM'ing front.

Not to seem rude,but who are you, haven't seen you post in HaloGAF before

I believe he is Josh Holmes

 

[aHebrewMenagerie]

The system hones in on a player's skill before their CSR rating is exposed. There is a hidden skill value that isn't revealed until the 10 games are complete. Which is to say, you may be playing with/against players of like skill even though they are still in their qualifying period.

The other thing to keep in mind is that MMing takes time to find like matches within the available population (people actively searching, not playing a match). After some time the match parameters expand and you may be placed in a game with people that are outside (above/below) your skill band.

This timing is a delicate balance because we have a limited population in beta and we have to balance MMing time with quality of match. If we take too long to match for skill, people start dropping out which extends the search time and eventually you get a timeout error. If we expand too quickly, you get more lopsided matches, which in a heavily skill-based game like H5 can lead to a frustrating/unsatisfying experience.

The good news is that even within the limited beta population we are seeing a majority of close games with both teams being competitive. This will only get better as our MMing algorithm improves and population increases at launch.

Not to seem rude,but who are you, haven't seen you post in HaloGAF before

 

[Ramirez]

Double jump? Ehhhhh

I've sunk a lot of time into Destiny PVP, and I think most of you would lose your shit fighting against a double jump in a game like Halo.

 

[User 73706]

Double jump? Ehhhhh

I've sunk a lot of time into Destiny PVP, and I think most of you would lose your shit fighting against a double jump in a game like Halo.

ehhhhhhhhh

Bare minimum they should let us shoot while clambering and clamber in any direction

 

[aHebrewMenagerie]

I personally want to sprint while crouched...

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Words.

Why did you ban me on Twitter?

It hurts, and it was after you commented on that motion tracker post ;'[

 

[Ramirez]

ehhhhhhhhh

Bare minimum they should let us shoot while clambering and clamber in any direction

How do you shoot while climbing, that makes no sense? And you want to be able to clamber something when you're not facing it? wat

 

[Granadier]

Also, they could remove motion tracker so that if I search alone, I could make a difference as an individual player.

I made a new avatar for you.

 

[SalientOne]

I personally want to sprint while crouched...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1WRLNQiXrGk

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

I made a new avatar for you.

lmfao I was going to put a #NoMotionTracker avatar for the NEW YEAR

Definitely rocking this out, just needs a few minor adjustments ;]

 

[SalientOne]

Why did you ban me on Twitter?

It hurts, and it was after you commented on that motion tracker post ;'[

I have no idea how you got blocked. I only block people that are rude/insulting (which you weren't).

All clear now - sorry for the bad feels.

 

[Fahzgoolin]

Clamber has all but killed any semblance of jumping, crouch jumping, trick jumps, or "platforming". Don't think I've made a single jump I didn't also Clamber after.

Then you aren't being creative enough. I already know several trick jumps and techniques besides vanilla jump and clamber.

Spoiler

you all suck at this game

 

[User 73706]

I personally want to sprint while crouched...

One day, Ian. One day.

How do you shoot while climbing, that makes no sense? And you want to be able to clamber something when you're not facing it? wat

Clamber as a gameplay concept doesn't inherently require your Spartan to be using their arms. How do you shoot while climbing ladders, or activate a button while you're not facing it?

It'd be easier from a technical / development perspective if they replaced the current clamber animation with a more generic arc performed by the retro-rockets so they could be used as a "saving grace" sort of move while still keeping the usual Clamber functionality.

 

[woodland]

Game glitched out and got to play without motion tracker earlier.

It was beautiful.

 

[Fracas]

Any word on concrete patches for MCC or is it now just a "we'll continue to make improvements" kind of situation?

 

[m23]

Clamber has all but killed any semblance of jumping, crouch jumping, trick jumps, or "platforming". Don't think I've made a single jump I didn't also Clamber after.

I've found some cool jumps already. One example is from tower to inside blue spawn on empire. You could probably do the same on red side.

 

[RSB]

Double jump? Ehhhhh

I've sunk a lot of time into Destiny PVP, and I think most of you would lose your shit fighting against a double jump in a game like Halo.

I think it would work better in Halo, actually. The accuracy penalties in Destiny (when airborne, or when not using ADS) are ridiculous. At least in Halo you can still be accurate while jumping.

Anyway, I'm only proposing double jump because I know the maps are being designed with Clamber in mind, and just removing it would need a complete redesign of the maps. I guess increasing the jump height could work too, IDK. Whatever, as long as they bring back crouch jump, I'm ok. Clamber is just not rewarding at all.

 

[dwells]

Any word on concrete patches for MCC or is it now just a "we'll continue to make improvements" kind of situation?

I doubt we'll see anything other than the latter. They haven't given any reason to believe otherwise, at least.

 

[Akai__]

Any word on concrete patches for MCC or is it now just a "we'll continue to make improvements" kind of situation?

I'm wondering the same. I had to restart the MCC like 10 times today. It's ridiculous...

I doubt we'll see anything other than the latter. They haven't given any reason to believe otherwise, at least.

343i has a pretty bad PR team. Not even tweeting about the Halo 5 Beta being live or tweeting patch notes after an hour.

 

[ultimota]

The full game needs a region search, i don't care how long i have to wait for games i want a good connection

International server: http://xboxclips.com/ultimaotaku/a183e34d-40be-430a-b243-cc2829725b9b

Local: http://xboxclips.com/ultimaotaku/e19c6267-a968-4356-88fc-eaa997849ca8

 

[buddha0991]

some Halo 5 Beta clips

 

[DeadNames]

Clamber has all but killed any semblance of jumping, crouch jumping, trick jumps, or "platforming". Don't think I've made a single jump I didn't also Clamber after.

I agree. I feel like way too many jumps rely on clamber.

 

[Ramirez]

Clamber as a gameplay concept doesn't inherently require your Spartan to be using their arms. How do you shoot while climbing ladders, or activate a button while you're not facing it?

It'd be easier from a technical / development perspective if they replaced the current clamber animation with a more generic arc performed by the retro-rockets so they could be used as a "saving grace" sort of move while still keeping the usual Clamber functionality.

Ladders, buttons? w0t

 

[Caja 117]

Is it better to post my impression of the beta here or on gaming thread?

To sumarize, me and my friends (who to a certain poing starting calling me a 343 shill for defending them soo much) are liking this game a lot, it doesnt seem to be that honeymoon phase we had in Halo 4 (there was no such phase in Reach)


Btw, hi Josh!!

 

[Karl2177]

What is the reason for 10 placement matches versus Starcraft's 5 placement matches?

 

[User 73706]

Ladders, buttons? w0t

m8 tho

 

[darthbob]

The full game needs a region search, i don't care how long i have to wait for games i want a good connection

International server: http://xboxclips.com/ultimaotaku/a183e34d-40be-430a-b243-cc2829725b9b

Local: http://xboxclips.com/ultimaotaku/e19c6267-a968-4356-88fc-eaa997849ca8

Tell me about it. Second clip was nice, and the first clip you clearly would have killed both players if the connection was better.

Any word on concrete patches for MCC or is it now just a "we'll continue to make improvements" kind of situation?

Seems likely that they'll just be general stability and MM tweaks. We might get the avatar and nameplate with the next few patches as well.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

I have no idea how you got blocked. I only block people that are rude/insulting (which you weren't).

All clear now - sorry for the bad feels.

 

[tootsi666]

What is the reason for 10 placement matches versus Starcraft's 5 placement matches?

Isn't SC 1v1? Team variance?

 

[Karl2177]

Isn't SC 1v1? Team variance?

SC2 also has 2v2 up to 4v4.

 

[MouldyK]

Catching up on "TotalBiscuit's Arbitrary Video Game Awards - 2014" and Halo scooped his award for "The Stop Preordering Videogames award for Biggest Launch Disaster".

The other nominees were WOW: WoD, Watch Dogs, Unity and Driveclub.

The reason mostly boils down to:

- Misleading Reviews saying Multiplayer is fine.
- Halo's Multiplayer is popular and it is unacceptable to not have it working even a month after launch.
- People expected the game to give them a chance to relive their childhood and it failed that.


I can relate to the 3rd one.

 

[Regret Upon Approval]

Grenades need some reworking.
They take too long to detonate but have a bit too potent blast.

Basically making so if you are at a distance you are carrying artillery. While near enemies you'll die before they detonate, but with their powerful blasts it is like a martyrdom effect. Resulting in them being not too good for actual firefights.

Suggest bringing them closer to, but not quite, Halo 3 level. Effective in firefights but not too powerful.

 

[Madness]

I hope one thing they improve for launch is to work on the visual "clarity" in the game itself. I have no doubt it'll be a "looker" and the Sprint showed us they are working their asses off on each small detail of the maps. But maybe it's me and my eyes going bad or something. But I find the maps dark, there is too much random light and glare, too much haze and "cloudiness" and tint and a washed out look. In the past, the games were much sharper, clearer, with more saturated colors allowing for easy spotting. Coupled with crushed Xbox One blacks, things like ADS/Scopes/digital stuff, it just makes it tough to see enemies clearly sometimes on Truth. Forget about it if you also get Prophets Bane and the solar flare type effect it gives off. Anyone else feel the same way? I wonder if I should get some Gunnar glasses or something. Maybe that'll help.

 

[CliQ]

Finally hit semipro. Not rated very high but I'll take it.

 

[LinkToTheFuture]

anyone else having "unexpected issues" with the servers =|

 

[MouldyK]

Halo New Year from the UK, you scumbags!

May 343i grace us with a bountiful harvest.

 

[VinFTW]

Finally hit semipro. Not rated very high but I'll take it.

Grats!

I'm still butt hurt about losing mine :/

 

[Digital Limit]

0 friends online. Xbox Live having issues.

 

[Tawpgun]

0 friends online. Xbox Live having issues.

More like LIFE is having issues

ha ha ha ha ha get it



Wake me when Week 2 starts

 

[User 73706]

Hey Frankie, is there a chance we'll ever be able to choose a different Spartan build and voice, rather than tying both to gender? Something looks kind of off about the males in Nightfall armor - it kind of reminds me of how wide-set the Reach Spartans were - so I've been using the thinner female build, but I'd prefer to still use the male voice.

Then again, I'm also keeping my fingers crossed for custom or unlockable Bro Banter voices, which would also solve the problem.

 

[Granadier]

Finally hit semipro. Not rated very high but I'll take it.

Congrats.

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On the grenade topic, I love love love how far grenades can be chucked now. It is so satisfying, and they really feel like hucking baseballs now when aimed well.
edit: But the genade hitmarkers are a real pain to have in the game.

 

[m23]

0 friends online. Xbox Live having issues.

Yeah. I've been able to find matches solo great today, but when I try to party up it doesn't find matches.

 

[Tawpgun]

frankie charge for armor skins and voice packs. maps released for free. buy a summer house.

 

[Bornstellar]

Yeah. I've been able to find matches solo great today, but when I try to party up it doesn't find matches.

Not able to find any matches atm solo.

 

[VinFTW]

frankie charge for armor skins and voice packs. maps released for free. buy a summer house.

Seriously. So much this.

DLC maps HAVE to be free.

 

[The Real Napsta]

Does anyone have overhead maps of Truth/Empire, to mark weapon locations on?

Or better yet, ones already filled out?


Trying to teach some friends where all the precision rifles spawn.

2 brs and a dmr in each base, a dmr on each bubble. That should get them started.