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Halo |OT 21| Battle is the Great Redeemer | LIVE. DIE. RESPAWN.
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Wait... you were in matchmaking. Now you're in... what?
I think the shoe is a speed up in a Mario game. Not sure which game.
Sonic has speed up.
TriStateTryHard
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How does pressing a button to automatically perform a climbing animation compare in any way to the skill and timing a perfectly executed crouch jump requires?
AR too stronk
Clamber to me opens up alternate routes that weren't there before, regardless of crouching. It could open up some interesting flanking tactics, maybe not. One of those things we'll have to use and see what effect it has on the game.
lmao Crouch jumping is not at all hard. There is little skill to it. The only thing you need to know is where you can use it which is mostly about knowing your jump heights.
"Clamber" or whatever still requires timing and can also bring more verticality to maps as well as increase the all around map movement in general. Though I do hope crouch jumping isn't dead.
A powerup is different from changing the core movement mechanics though. If there was a temp speed increase (you could do this in Halo 3 with the custom powerup), that picture would make more sense.
Blue Ninja
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Hahaha, ow lawdy lawd.
FUBAR McDangles
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I had no idea. Looks like I will have to go back through for those. Thanks.
It doesn't actually, there's a "hold to clamber" version you can set in the controls.
FUBAR McDangles
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Yeah I was confused about that too. I wonder when they will put it up.
Demoncarnotaur
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Holy shit. :lol
Poodlestrike
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Oh, well that's a bummer. Should always require the second press, IMO. Maybe we can get that taken out in the beta.
Well that's kinda lame. It works by pressing the jump button when you reach the ledge right? Do you think that the option to hold it might be there to account for the game being unresponsive due to lag or something? Genuinely asking.
True. I think the comparison was just pointing out that games do use ideas other games had while still maintaining their identity. I'd imagine that's what Digital was going for anyway.
"Master Chief, mind telling me what you're doing on that ship?"
"Sir, I voted for Lockout. I don't know why I'm here."
^ I've seen a bunch of that. Yesterday after beating AotCR, while loading 343GS it showed my The Library. Was almost scared 343i had forgotten to include 343GS haha
I guess there are nicer ways of doing so than what 343 has done so far with Halo 4 (ugh, just ugh), and what I've seen of Halo 5 so far. Take Pokémon for example, almost 20 years later it still feels very much like Pokémon, and yet X/Y are wayyy more than just reskins of Red/Blue.
I guess there are nicer ways of doing so than what 343 has done so far with Halo 4 (ugh, just ugh), and what I've seen of Halo 5 so far. Take Pokémon for example, almost 20 years later it still feels very much like Pokémon, and yet X/Y are wayyy more than just reskins of Red/Blue.
Thats a new one. Wow
TriStateTryHard
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Load up twitch and show me that you can even make the ring 3 jumps on Sanctuary. What name should I look for on twitch?
NobleGundam
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Last time I checked. Arena Halo didn't have nor need default features for Insta-kill abilities to balance the experience out. Ridiculous excuse.
Halo 4 was a mistake in my opinion mainly because it added a bunch of pretty stickers that were annoying and added nothing to the core experience. Halo 5 seems to be averting this which is why I am much more interested.
Yeah but he's still right. Halo 5 is an arena game.
TriStateTryHard
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Do you have an original Xbox or 360 and a camera phone?
TBH, Halo has never been a real Arena game. Arena games have tons of 1HK's in them, it's just a buzzword 343 is using, I wouldn't dwell on it...
I do have those.
Dutch dude is excited as hell :lol
http://gameclipscontent-d3003.xboxl..._=1416339741_5acdd1c346a648f205b7c6f0c575076e
Okay that's just not fair. My only marine death. Missed out on that achievement
Okay that's just not fair. My only marine death. Missed out on that achievement
Poker Face
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TriStateTryHard
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So upload a video of you making the ring 3 sanctuary jumps consistently when no one is even shooting at you since crouch jumps take no skill.
Halo has never been just an arena game, but that's definitely always been part of Halo.
Main thing that bothered me about that video was the AR's strength, and the fact he was popping shields so easily with the ground pound without killing people. I'd prefer it kill you outright, or do nothing at all.
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When I think arena, I think Quake/UT, and Halo is vastly different from those. Moving towards 1HK abilities, and quicker TTK definitely makes it more of a traditional arena game.
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When I think arena, I think Quake/UT, and Halo is vastly different from those. Moving towards 1HK abilities, and quicker TTK definitely makes it more of a traditional arena game.
NobleGundam
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They just need to nerf them further, imo. Making it not near pointless to use but very effective tool if timed and used just right. From a guesstimate probability of lets say 40-30% chance of insta-kill to 20% or less. Otherwise you'd just knock out their Shields instead.
TriStateTryHard
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Hovering mid air directly into a homing diagonal ground pound. Lol.
Well the guy in that video never killed anyone with the slam or charge, I'm more inclined to say if you don't hit them directly, it does nothing to them. Maybe knocks you back, but keep your shields?
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It's possible that once people get better at the game, hovering in the air like that will just end in you getting destroyed. It's hard to judge the game mechanics on a few videos. Greenskull didn't use any of the new abilities in his vids and was doing fine, so I dunno.
I realize most of you hate this stuff, but I genuinely enjoyed Destiny's 3v3 PVP, and all of the abilities it introduced. It needs some balancing in that game, but just because a game adds abilities in like this, doesn't mean the better player won't still win 90% of the time, or that it can't be fun.
User 73706
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Will do. However for the record I never said they don't take any skill. I just said it doesn't take much. I have a buddy that I was playing CEA with yesterday who had no idea how to grenade jump but he had it down in about 5 minutes. Got the bandanna skull (which surprised me given that it was such a bitch for me and my bro).
You should check again bro. Halo had an Insta-Kill abilitiy since its first game, which is not only even more easy to use, but also comes at zero risk (unlike a Ground Pound) ... Hint: press B from behind.
In all the Halo 5 videos we have seen yet, I think I have not seen one Ground Pound resulting in an insta-kill. Not saying it's not possible - but it seems like not that easy to perform.
Also, the word "instant" in combination with the ground pound is already wrong by the mechanic alone. You need time to charge for your ground pound. That's far from "instant".
TriStateTryHard
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Can we agree that crouch jumping takes infinitely more skill than an animation that automatically climbs for you?
Actually there's always been one insta-kill available to EVERYONE in EVERY form of Halo...
Assassinations
Sure, they're not easy to pull off, but anyone CAN do it. And I think the ground pound ability is much the same way. Interestingly enough, just like assassinations, it'll probably be easier to pull of with motion tracker disabled, but with it on will be a challenge.
EDIT: Beaten by Klodeckel.
Now I would agree it takes more skill yes.
Until I was corrected by Grizz, I was under the impression that you had to time the button press correctly to actually climb up. This "hold to climb" option changes things. While it's better than an auto climb (which I would personally hate), I would prefer it to require actual timing.
There have been a bunch of ground pound instakills in videos.
Lol, that must be disappointing. Why did you go for the melee anyway?http://gameclipscontent-d3003.xboxl..._=1416339741_5acdd1c346a648f205b7c6f0c575076e
Okay that's just not fair. My only marine death. Missed out on that achievement
TriStateTryHard
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If only there was a mechanic in Halo that let you clear higher obstacles with a perfectly timed button press...
Again, not saying there weren't any. But really - in like 7 videos I have watched, I can not remmber one. How many have there been? 2? 3?
Hmm... yeah I'm not really happy with that.
While I still think that it will help to increase vertical play in maps, I do wish it had more to it than just holding the button.
Now I'm not saying that I think it has no place in the game. I'm fine with its presence as even with crouch jumping you wouldn't have been able to climb a ledge if even your knees were the only thing in the way which always felt dumb to me. I think that if the maps are designed properly they could add jumps that require you to time it right so you actually do land that clamber... that word is so weird.
I hope that crouch jumping returns though.
NobleGundam
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Zero risk? It's only instant if you melee a player in the back. Not the sides. The front. Ground pound says otherwise.
Well, since ground pound is done by holding down the crouch button in the air... don't get your hopes up. Though it does look like ground pound won't activate unless you're far enough away from a surface, so it might still work.
Imagine how Lockout would play with clamber.
TriStateTryHard
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I think that crouching while airborne activates ground pound so I'm pretty sure crouch jumping is out.
RIP crouch jump
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