GringoSuave89
Banned
Oh sweet, you helped make some of my favorites.
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Halo |OT 23| Thruster is Love, Thruster is Life
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Oh sweet, you helped make some of my favorites.
I still haven't finished Spartan Ops. I played through the first 5 episodes I think and then just sorta gave up. They weren't bad, they were just a bit too repetitive. I did play them solo though so that may have been a factor on my enjoyment.
I might get around to finishing it sometime. Probably on the build up to 5's launch.
With a loot system and a more social focus Spartan Ops basically is a Halo version of Destiny.
I might get around to finishing it sometime. Probably on the build up to 5's launch.
It is pretty crazy how similar Spartan Ops and Destiny's mission design is.
With a loot system and a more social focus Spartan Ops basically is a Halo version of Destiny.
link1201
Member
I haven't seen them. When I went to play an episode it put me right into a match... no cut scene.
aHebrewMenagerie
Member
Spartan Ops needs a RNG loot system.
Poodlestrike
Banned
NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
You did a lot of the ones that used multiplayer maps other than a few of them from portions of campaign missions. Were they designed around the maps or were the maps designed with Spartan ops in mind?
Orochinagis
Member
I think it would be a chore trying to find the jackal or the elite hiding or being stuff in a far place.
You made the fun ones <3
I like the idea a lot but really did not dig the execution.
Not super opposed to it coming back, albeit after an overhaul.
lybertyboy
Thinks the Evil Empire is just misunderstood.
If I understand you're question correctly, the maps came first and we designed the missions to fit the space in situations where we were reusing a location from campaign or MP.
That's what I wanted to know, albeit phrased rather poorly, thanks.
That would in practical terms, mean a lot less content for most players.
The majority of people never touch all the custom content you put out there. Even if you improve the tools and distribution methods, that's probably not going to change.
Episodic content can work fine, but if you end up with with something like Halo 4's Spartan Ops you've gotta reevaluate how you're approaching things. It was a mode with repetitive missions, repetitive environments, a story somehow worse than the campaign's and and a co-op aspect that was only justified by the ridiculous amount of enemies and weaponry randomly thrown in your direction.
Digital Limit
Member
Spartan Ops was so horribly broad and poorly done. All it needed was some goddamn stakes. Limit my lives. Give me a leaderboard and ways to score well. That's all I ask. Well, the other part is to make interesting encounters are make them related to the clips you play before them, but that seems like too much to ask for.
Delta Unit Hinkle
Member
I get that and i assume This is very likely thought i dont see how they both could not co exist together,
But the idea that you will get new content thats also Playable continuiously till the next game was very pleasing im just sad it didn't pan out, I enjoy many of the missions I do wish there was more depth to many of them but that likely due to budge and time registrants
Agreed.
I enjoy Spartan ops immensely, I could only imagine would could have been done with the right amount of resources,
The Real Napsta
Member
I'm really looking forward to the next MCC patch. It will be so nice to play Halo again.
Here's hoping it's coming some time this next week.
Here's hoping it's coming some time this next week.
Regret Upon Approval
Member
With respect to the MCC.
After it is finally fixed, or as close as it can get, hopefully within in a few months, need to up the playerbase.
I'm thinking maybe month before or during the leadup to E3 make it either GwG or free to download, the multiplayer component at least. Something of the sort.
After it is finally fixed, or as close as it can get, hopefully within in a few months, need to up the playerbase.
I'm thinking maybe month before or during the leadup to E3 make it either GwG or free to download, the multiplayer component at least. Something of the sort.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Agreed, a few friends have been organising 360 nights to get their Halo fix. That's not right.
What makes you so sure that this is the *one*?
That is true, but assuming the tools were powerful enough, they could always use it themselves to make "official" Spartan Ops missions or FF scenarios.
Seeing Stinkles double down on this one has given me some confidence in it. However, after almost 44% of the last one arguably just failed to actually make the changes stated in the patch notes, I'm still a bit cynical. But again, it sounds like this one has been cooking for a long time. Here's hoping. Getting a bit sick of playing the Campaigns over and over.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
The patch should include bots to increase the population or fill a game when it's not balanced.
Easier said than done...
KidA Seven
Member
Competitive community are extremely fortunate to be getting that much prize money considering how small the scene is in terms of player base and amount of viewers. Just think about how much money the Smash scene and SF (before this year's $500k announcement) get and they vastly outnumber the Halo scene in player base and viewers.
I'm happy for the top players like 2gre though.
Firefight needed to exist alongside Spartan Ops. A lot of the missions were fun, but since they were set in a certain way you never got to say "hey, that ______ happened in our last game!" from something emerging from the natural progression of Firefight.
Add in the lack of campaign engine theater and it wasn't really possible to share SPOPS experiences anyway, so once you were done, everything vanished and there wasn't even a score to compare with other people.
I think they were heading in the right direction at that MP maps should also support Firefight in addition to carved out campaign spaces / unique spaces. Would have been nice in Reach to play Firefight on MP spaces.
Add in the lack of campaign engine theater and it wasn't really possible to share SPOPS experiences anyway, so once you were done, everything vanished and there wasn't even a score to compare with other people.
I think they were heading in the right direction at that MP maps should also support Firefight in addition to carved out campaign spaces / unique spaces. Would have been nice in Reach to play Firefight on MP spaces.
This is true, but we don't see many AAA game dev dogfood in that respect with an engine that's not Unity/UE? Only good example I can think of is Blizzard's RTS World Editors. I assume there are reasons for it (and a reason Blizzard basically says "if it's broke, don't come to us" with its editor.) Someone more knowledgeable can tell me if the HEK was actually that fully featured; my understanding was at least initially it was highly limited in its capabilities compared to a full level creator (and why they didn't port over the campaign to Custom Edition.)
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Just throw marines in there.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Forgeable Firefight maps would give the mode a whole new life. PvE experience with buildable bases and such.
Even better if you could have one player as an active monitor building shit as the game goes on getting rewarded a budget based on his teams survival and kill ratings.
Spartan Ops has a place, That place just isn't the same place as FF. SpOps is more akin to campaign than FF why would you cut one for another.
in magic land where everything is possible id want.
Campaign (with tags set's more expansive than elsewhere)
Firefight (segmented campaign locations + MP maps + Forge maps + objective scripting)
Spartan Ops (Episodic released co-op story driven)
Arena Multiplayer (MLG friendly, core gameplay)
Warzone Multiplayer (Larger Big team gameplay, Invasion returning)
Forge (Arena/Warzone/Firefight map creation, Terrain editing or expansive terrain sandbox)
Armory (H4/Reach style but with attention paid to legacy stuff like Security Helm, EVA, Mk 5 and 6, Recon, ODST, HAYAFUCKINGBUSA)
Player ID (Avatar, Spartan/Elite pose, Service Tag, nameplats etc)
Halo Reach delivered a shit load of content and Halo 4 almost felt like a step back from that.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Please and thank you. Any time I fight a Fallen my heart longs that they were Elites...
There was a bit of a glut of choices in Reach, but I also think 4 had too many as well. At least too many unmemorable ones.
Just keep my GUNGNIR, 343. I love me my GUNGNIR....
I think they really should just pare back the armory stuff, because designing so many choices really just leads to glut, but on the other hand A) if people want maps to be free, seems like that's just going to mean more armor/skins/voices/customization DLC; and B) people have some weird design choices and favorites (witness: GUNGNIR). 
Didn't say it'd happen, just that if it does, expect another revenue stream.
You'd put up with it, begrudgingly.
I really, really wouldnt
I'm a huge halo fan, I dont blame anybody for reading my post and rolling their eyes, but come on now, Battlefront, Zelda, Uncharted, MGS, etc, why would I waste time/money on Halo maps when they should be free to avoid splitting of the community. Its an eSport centric, 2015 shooter ffs lol
I'd drop a few bucks on some CSGO style skins though...
Cuz you are way too dug in to the community to just check out over DLC maps. We'll see though.
With so many games, i'd enjoy the fuck out of the game but buying dlc maps is a big difference.
Never bought any h4 map packs, I think I didn't buy any Reach map packs? (maybe 1) and 1 or 2 of the H3 ones.
Just not my thing, especially now in this age
BF4?
To be fair the DLC in BF4 looked pretty amazing, only got Naval Strike. Regretted that. Heard good things about the rest though.
Ill never forget how amazing Rush was in BC and BC2. Two of my favorite shooters, ever. BC2 was so damn good for rush.
Now I have to decide if Heist will be enough to get Hardline, looks pretty interesting.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
- If CGB: I will probably buy map packs.
- If no CGB: Seriously reconsider supporting that anymore. Main reason I bought them in the past was for achievements and to get some games in while they were fresh, but seeing as how the achievements in TMCC are absurd and the game still having issues, I don't even think I'll ever care about 100%'ing Halo games anymore.
Orochinagis
Member
I dont know what they were thinking on those boxes locations in those horrible maps designs that are not suitable for that mode.
Nothing achievement-wise in TMCC is that crazy, aside from the LASO and speed run achievements (but even then they're really just dedication.)
I'm just convinced they'll keep adding achievements with ODST and I'll never catch up. Currently at 399/500...
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
The LASO and speedrun achievements would take way too much time, so no point in 100%. Maybe one day I'll get that drive, but even then.. how much time and effort would I have to put into it? More than Halo 2 Vista, that's for sure lol
Reminds me of the disappointment that was Dead Space 2's hardcore achievement after 100%'ing the first one.
Reminds me of the disappointment that was Dead Space 2's hardcore achievement after 100%'ing the first one.
I'm only 51% through the MCC. There's just so many. I've already accepted that I'll never get close to 100%.
I bought Premium in BF3 and BF4. Rather surprising considering EA, but I actually feel like I got my money's worth. More of a conquest player though
I bought Premium in BF3 and BF4. Rather surprising considering EA, but I actually feel like I got my money's worth. More of a conquest player though