The Henery
Member
Nah dude it's cuz Tsquared's not putting out Youtube vids
https://mobile.twitter.com/Unyshek/status/576553578065592320
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Halo |OT 23| Thruster is Love, Thruster is Life
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Nah dude it's cuz Tsquared's not putting out Youtube vids
https://mobile.twitter.com/Unyshek/status/576553578065592320
No idea, I assume he'll put it on on a Waypoint update or Forgehub/Forgers already know the corrected ones.
I assume with the timing it was probably due to the off-time post S1 finals and everybody going on vacation and such. I figured they're going to put it in a weekly update on Waypoint, IMO.
Would be better for community involvement.
Welfare
Member
It's practice for when forgers have to make the maps for Halo 5 HCS season 2.
Computer
Member
Halo 5 better have a shit load of maps. Halo has not had a good map count in way too long.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
If anyone wants to do some halo legendary coop I'm game. Starting at two betrayals. Gamer tag Brolic Gaoler.
Been playing around a bit with CSGO's Hammer and it's pretty nice to work with. Not too difficult to get into either. I'd kill for something like this in Halo.
YouTube audience doesn't give a shit about H2A Scrims or tips. A lot of the players used to charge for that bullshit, when they took the audience for granted. Now, asking them to provide tips, show in-depth scrims and actually care about the audience, with no upfront payment, must be foreign to them.
In the future, they need to be more open to the community, and provide some great video content, not just grinding hours on Twitch. But, for now, HCS is so fringe to the mainstream, that I don't think some hardcore investment into YouTube content from Pro's is gonna make a difference. The audience that is invested is already there, following Pro's and watching Twitch streams, I don't think they (I certainly don't) care about separate YouTube analysis of their gameplay.
Show the scrims, stream the grind, and good luck in the tourney, that's all you can ask right now. If H5 eSports blows up, then reevaluate the scene and it may necessitate more media involvement from the talent.
Computer
Member
Flamesword is the most active HCS pro on YouTube and I love watching all of his videos. Most of witch are just day and life videos. It dose help grow the fan base. The pros are the stars. They are who attract people to watch. They should put out more content to build their brand and the HCS. It would help them all in the end.
HCS should push itself as a brand for Halo eSports, and the Talent should push their brand as competitors in that eSport. They shouldn't have to push the HCS too, that feels shallow and desperate to me, and a lot of other outside viewers feel the same way.
Flamesword is grinding for exposure, wherever the fuck he can get it, despite having middling results at tournaments. Results that don't net great earnings. He's pushing the social aspect of his brand, because professionally, he is mediocre in a second rate eSport. It's a hustle, through and through.
Once 343/MS stop outsourcing Halo eSports like they've outsourced Halo, then maybe it can be considered with the big boys of eSports (CS GO, LoL, Dota2, CoD.) But, for now, it's a second rate eSport waiting to blossom or about to fall into obscurity.
Computer
Member
Ya it is really sad that there are only 2 LAN events for the second season. Even more so when 343 has not hosted a single event. Depending company's such as UGC or Iron Gaming to put in the time and money into hosting events when Halo is at its lowest point is why we only have 2 events. I hope they are good events because it will be the last time we see H2A played in the HCS.
gAg CruSh3r
Member
User 73706
Banned
UE4 is where it's at. Gimme C++ Source, Blueprint and their editor.
The Henery
Member
The amount of maps was fine for what the primary purpose of H2A was: A modified Halo 4 engine tarted up to show the power of the One at E3 so they're not reliant on up to 13 years old games to sell Halo on their new console.
The mistake was trying to base an entire esports league around that Xbox One Halo demo. The central theme of the Master Chief Collection is in its mixed game playlists. It has over 100 maps. They should have used the standout gametypes from each game for HCS. Imagine the current lineup plus H2 Middy Ball, H3 Pit Flag and H:CE Damnation Slayer. Or they could have ran CE for one season, H2 for the next etc until the final Championship weekend which would have been a blend of those games. "Who will be the ultimate Halo players, masters of the original trilogy as we gear up for Halo 5?" That would have been far more compelling to me than watching three maps (3!) over and over again.
YourExWife
Member
Another spot-on assessment, Henery. In fact, leading up to the release of MCC, with how hard the pros were playing H2V I was convinced that at minimum H2C was going to be a part of the circuit. There's so, so much potential here, and we get to watch the same three maps over and over...
They also ended up in a weird spot where there's Halo 2 maps that look good for current standards but they're in the Reach engine and they didn't port them over.
I don't think anyone would have minded if they had ported over Reflection, Breakneck, Battle Canyon, and High Noon to get more maps into H2A.
But then again, we had Reach Anniversary that didn't have Blood Gu-oh god i'm talking about the reach tu again
I don't think anyone would have minded if they had ported over Reflection, Breakneck, Battle Canyon, and High Noon to get more maps into H2A.
But then again, we had Reach Anniversary that didn't have Blood Gu-oh god i'm talking about the reach tu again
I concur, minus Valhalla's problem with the center hill. I'd like to see a Valhalla that has the middle of Tempest but with the rest of the map being Valhalla's geometry.
User 73706
Banned
So, the new BOOMCo. Needler uses a weird multi-barrel setup...
In fact, it almost kind of reminds me of-
no wait that's silly there's no way they'd-
nah it's just the angle i mean-
BOOM
for the first time i can happily say
I CALLED it, motherfuckers
on an unrelated note, also rediscovered my weird "passive ambient Knight" concept from ages ago
In fact, it almost kind of reminds me of-
no wait that's silly there's no way they'd-
nah it's just the angle i mean-
BOOM
CO
for the first time i can happily say
I CALLED it, motherfuckers
on an unrelated note, also rediscovered my weird "passive ambient Knight" concept from ages ago
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
And good ones. Reach and 4 both had terrible on disc maps.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Some bomb fun in H2A recently. By the prophets I love carrying the bomb.
Already snuck in to position after a failed rush strategy:
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/11fe61e1-25b3-4515-bfc0-ea1d39c81bbb
Took out their rocket carrier, sneaky bomb recovery with camo in a well defended base. I love radar:
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/51db1821-9b61-47d7-ae58-e999c679b805
Getting our asses handed to us, all 4 enemies were spawn killing us, turtling rings and 20+ kills each. We still prevailed. Again I love radar bomb carrying big time, full run Sanctuary end to end arm:
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/d894e300-96c1-472e-ab88-070888f5de8f
Already snuck in to position after a failed rush strategy:
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/11fe61e1-25b3-4515-bfc0-ea1d39c81bbb
Took out their rocket carrier, sneaky bomb recovery with camo in a well defended base. I love radar:
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/51db1821-9b61-47d7-ae58-e999c679b805
Getting our asses handed to us, all 4 enemies were spawn killing us, turtling rings and 20+ kills each. We still prevailed. Again I love radar bomb carrying big time, full run Sanctuary end to end arm:
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/d894e300-96c1-472e-ab88-070888f5de8f
Kibbles
Member
lmao good luck with that with the tools available. I've never seen a beautiful forge map. There's forge maps that end up looking decent, but beautiful? Nope. They need to play their own game. Camping stools and cones have no value in competitive play.
RowdyReverb
Member
The multiple variants of each map would technically bolster the map count, right? I guess it depends on how you count. Empire and Eden felt pretty different from each other, despite having similar overall structures, but would you call that 2 maps, or 1.5 or something?
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
You're gonna bet they will advertise those as separate maps.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
I'm more than happy with this map layout/redesign methodology, I'd count it as 1.5 but it creates a great fallback, if one variant sucks the other can succeed thus making good use of the resource investment or allowing more forge/gametype options.
I completely agree. I actually thought that's what HCS and eSports would be as well. All of the Halo's, not just H2A. Seeing the old maps and gametypes with a mix of new pros and old, all in glorious 1080p and 60fps action etc.
But I still would have liked to have seen at least 8 or more maps for H2A. At least 5 small/mid, and then 3 for BTB. Make H2A viable as a modern, Halo 2 style game with Halo 4 graphics etc.
As it is though, this whole collection has been a mess and "what if, what could've been" questions.
User 73706
Banned
I'm guessing only Arena maps get variations while BTB maps don't. That, coupled with multiple forge spaces and their default templates as with Reach are going to have them boasting "most launch maps in a halo title to date excluding MCC" in their ad campaign for sure. I'm guessing 17-19 total, and then really ~4-5 launch BTB maps, 6-7 arena maps all with variations and 2-3 forge defaults.
Gnome Scat
Member
So since MMC finally works, will we be getting some more sweet, sweet Halo 5 info?
The Real Napsta
Member
I got an extermination today. I can count on one hand how many I've achieved ever so it felt pretty good.
http://youtu.be/GFlTVFGYG7o
Wish it was another Halo game but at least it was a good map and gametype.
http://youtu.be/GFlTVFGYG7o
Wish it was another Halo game but at least it was a good map and gametype.
Regret Upon Approval
Member
The glossy lighting I saw in the WIP was the greasy bloom effect and light emitter hands.
I'll just repeat myself a few times and hopefully it'll be toned down a bit in the final.
Gotta be honest with the fans.
There's not "more gloss", it's just brighter. And it's not general to MCC; it's an issue particular to the Halo 3 port.
The statement from the video is incorrect and brushes over an obvious technical issue.
Love it
Are the Knights arms blades? Or are the floaty things guns of some sort?
Got bored. Decided to recreate The Pit:
That is hammer right? I wanted to create a few Halo maps in UE4 to practice the BSP stuff. Both Hammer and UE4 run like shit on my pc though lol
VisceralBowl
Member
Looks like hammer to me.
Source - No idea what to say. It isn't that demanding.
UE4 - Turn off "update BSP automatically." Do that for navigation also. Blocking out levels with them turned on is impossible.
Looking good.Got bored. Decided to recreate The Pit:
Might retry Source again. I just remember I tried hammer on my laptop not this desktop so maybe it runs better on there. Still, I want to dev with UE4 in the future so might just slave through the 5 minute lighting building lol
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
That's a fantastic quick block out of The Pit.
aHebrewMenagerie
Member
Pardon me, i should game specified, when i say glossy lighting, i meant bloom, if you look at Halo 3/4 on the one compared to the 360 The bloom has been turned way up
Hmm.
I have my 360 and XB1 going to the same screen right now, and I'm comparing the 360 and XB1 versions of Halo 3 and Halo 4 in the same scenes where it's very easy to make out the bloom strength and radius, and I'm not seeing that it's been increased. Halo 3's looks basically the same, and although Halo 4's looks a little different, I wouldn't really say it looks "stronger" (the most obvious thing is that it's skinnier on the horizontal axis).