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Halo |OT 23| Thruster is Love, Thruster is Life
- Thread starter VisceralBowl
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They'd have to for it to be a truly classic scope.
They'll likely function they same way but they'll look different.
They don't
Wait... so are saying ADS is only cosmetic or that it's not? The wordibg confuses me.
lol
I'd love to hear some impressions on it.
Not sure. Went through all menus and can't tell the difference.
Not sure why 343i is even bothering with patch notes. Other devs include every little detail, about what got fixed or what was supposed to be fixed.
If we knew what was actually supposed to be fixed, we could give more feedback about that specific thing.
I've had 500 dollars set aside for an Xbox One + MCC since before the game came out. I ask every week whether the game is fixed just to see if I can finally pull the trigger. I want nothing else enough to buy an Xbox One, so it'll pretty much just be a Halo machine. If the series came to PC in full, that leaves me with no real reason to own an Xbox One.
So yeah, I agree with you, it'll be a positive for me, lol.
http://halo.bungie.net/news/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BWU_050710
Bungie's first weekly update after the Reach beta went LIVE. Dat relationship and personallity Bungie has. 343 should try and better theirs, because with Halo 5s beta, I felt like it was just barren in that "community" aspect. They only tweeted the Halo 5 beta even existed 4 times since it launched on December 29th. They(or any developers I follow) didn't even tweet out that it ended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddXe104Zpt8
Bungie even made a special video after the Reach beta ended, and they uploaded 3-4 community clips from the Reach beta every week on their YouTube channel. It felt nice and what makes me like Bungie a lot still.
Bungie's first weekly update after the Reach beta went LIVE. Dat relationship and personallity Bungie has. 343 should try and better theirs, because with Halo 5s beta, I felt like it was just barren in that "community" aspect. They only tweeted the Halo 5 beta even existed 4 times since it launched on December 29th. They(or any developers I follow) didn't even tweet out that it ended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddXe104Zpt8
Bungie even made a special video after the Reach beta ended, and they uploaded 3-4 community clips from the Reach beta every week on their YouTube channel. It felt nice and what makes me like Bungie a lot still.
Truth is.. they don't. Game developers, at least in the console FPS scene, don't want to be polarizing and would rather follow the trend. It's safer and nets you more money, but they're sacrificing a memorable game in the process. You're right, they're scared to take the classic route. I hate it, but at the same time, I can understand why. They're trying to find that middle ground between classic and modern style. I loved the beta. However, I have no hopes in the final version of Halo 5. Even if there is some competitiveness, we'll have to strip the game down to bare bones just to find it.
Regret Upon Approval
Member
Yeah, some dudes maybe Tweeting but overall the whole community engagement felt kinda lacking. Hopefully they'll do some sort of proper post-beta breakdown.
Graphics. It looks dated and boring (gray rooms and such). Low production values, kinda.
I guess I could see that perspective.
FYI, don't buy Reflex yet...I just bought it earlier, 9.99, and I know it's early access, but there's absolutely no settings/options for key binds yet.
Edit: Ryn, it's confirmed from playing the beta that ADS gives tighter shots to the weapons as well as gives damage boosts to weapons, e.g., the Light Rifle, though I wouldn't call that ADS since it's technically a full-screen scope
It's not just cosmetic. But Josh Holmes was right when he tweeted no penalty for hip fire...technically there isn't a penalty for choosing not to ADS...but those that do ADS technically get an advantage, couple that with the auto-scoping after being descoped....which I find seriously stupid.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Yeah I played a bit last night and it was 50/50. Halo 4 matches started with 9 players twice, then a crapped out game before it started and then about 2 or 3 solid matches after that. When I changed to BTB or Halo 2 classic no players matched and I just switched it off to go to bed.
buddha0991
Member
"Coming soon"
Regret Upon Approval
Member
We need a highlight reel really, some of the fuckups are actually funny.
-Ranked Forge slayer
-3v5 slayer
-Launching from matchmaking into campaign somehow
Soon
How about they fix the game first to a state where it doesn't crash that often and finds matches often enough, yes?
Ranks will do nothing right now
My favorite thing was a team slayer game where Derelict got voted for. Instead of starting the game, MCC dumped everyone into a party with me as the leader. At this point I was confused, but figured "why the hell not" and started a search in the BTB list. Next thing you know, a Derelict load screen pops up, and... it started a game of 8-player FFA? After the game I was still party lead.
I just... I don't... whatever.
Eventually™, maybe™.
If the game ever makes it to a sufficiently-functional state that rankings would feel meaningful, I might start wondering.
The killcams in H2A are ridiculous as well. Hate that they are default in matchmaking for everyone. Stop showing me that I died from the guy 20 feet in front who out shot me, let me see what happened, did he die, did my grenade connect, etc.
Matchmaking seems working well enough but there is just no urge or joy in playing.
Matchmaking seems working well enough but there is just no urge or joy in playing.
Lots of people don't know this, but ranks in MCC mean nothing currently. They are just a number beside your name and you don't get matched according to skill.
I mean, it's obvious that ranks don't work, because the game doesn't work properly in 1st place, but we really don't need ranks right now. We need 343i and MS fixing the game 1st and then we can talk about more (ranked) playlists.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Sik, I have two CLIPS. Figured I'll get these in there as my clips until I have time to look through them. Didn't know XboxClips was removing all of my good stuff, so wanted to at least get something memorable in before you finished:
The sticky at the end of this
Mostly for the sticky at the end, but Munch would be disappointed by this Sword.
#NoMotionTracker 1
#NoMotionTracker 2
Figured I'll go with something funny. If you can, the two motion tracker clips would look nice edited together, otherwise only 2 is fine, and I chose the sticky because it was right on his eye lol
The sticky at the end of this
Mostly for the sticky at the end, but Munch would be disappointed by this Sword.
#NoMotionTracker 1
#NoMotionTracker 2
Figured I'll go with something funny. If you can, the two motion tracker clips would look nice edited together, otherwise only 2 is fine, and I chose the sticky because it was right on his eye lol
There's nothing constructive to my following post other than getting on the table for probably the last time how I feel but I just tried to boot up MCC and it wouldn't even launch.
I dunno, what else is there to say? I've never purchased anything that just...didn't work. Incredibly disappointing.
I dunno, what else is there to say? I've never purchased anything that just...didn't work. Incredibly disappointing.
aHebrewMenagerie
Member
Good Lord, I just remembered how rage inducing the MCC was lol.
Forerunner
Member
Yup ranks are beyond frustrating atm. I got to 23 in H2A before I gave up. The matchmaking is completely broken. Most of my games look something like this:
23, 5, 3, 7, 8 vs. 16, 17, 19, 15, 15
Also add in all the uneven starts and rage quitters. They need to fix the game before even thinking about adding ranks to other playlist.
I just played a game of H2A 1-Flag on Stonetown (concrats on finally getting me into a BTB game, btw), and I have... some questions.
Is the gametype really supposed to
Also the voting screen doesn't actually beep like it's supposed to. And the music is quieter in lobbies, but it gets really loud again on map loading screens.
GG 343.
Is the gametype really supposed to
- have selectable loadouts (SMG, Plasma Rifle, or Magnum)?
- have killcams?
- end after just to rounds (we were inning 1-0) even though the scoreboard said "round 2 of 6"?
Also the voting screen doesn't actually beep like it's supposed to. And the music is quieter in lobbies, but it gets really loud again on map loading screens.
GG 343.
There was a bad Sonic game in '06, I know how you feel.
Welfare
Member
3v4 Industries doing work.
Prinz Eugn
Member
Don't worry, we've all had situations that happened. But look on the bright side, the glass is half-full.
TheOhrenberger.
Banned
We only need one more person, game! Is it really that hard to find one more person?!
I don't think this is a MCC issue. I think this is a 343 issue. When we needed one more person to start the game in the Halo 5 beta it would take forever to find one as well.
I don't think this is a MCC issue. I think this is a 343 issue. When we needed one more person to start the game in the Halo 5 beta it would take forever to find one as well.
RowdyReverb
Member
If you need the storage space, no. Even if they recycled the executable somehow for another beta, the necessary patching would likely be such an extensive download that it would be just as easy to download it from scratch.
Now I eagerly await 343 to announce that they take everything I liked about Halo 5 out and make AR starts universal.
Then they would have ruined everything.
Also make some god damn communication, why is what broken and so on, go all technical on us.
Better than saying "stay tuned we are sorry" for months now.
Just give us some insight
Then they would have ruined everything.
Also make some god damn communication, why is what broken and so on, go all technical on us.
Better than saying "stay tuned we are sorry" for months now.
Just give us some insight
Welfare
Member
This is a company that will only communicate to the fanbase through press releases. They have almost always been silent to the fanbase and that isn't stopping.
I geddit.
They should not be appearing in matchmaking. Can you let me know which playlist you're seeing them in, and the gametype please?
I miss Halo era Bungie
What makes you say this?
Do you mean that you think the final game will be worse than the beta? If so, why?
Didn't the Light Rifle do more damage per shot when zoomed in H4? That's a weapon feature, not an ADS feature lolEdit: Ryn, it's confirmed from playing the beta that ADS gives tighter shots to the weapons as well as gives damage boosts to weapons, e.g., the Light Rifle, though I wouldn't call that ADS since it's technically a full-screen scope
It's not just cosmetic. But Josh Holmes was right when he tweeted no penalty for hip fire...technically there isn't a penalty for choosing not to ADS...but those that do ADS technically get an advantage, couple that with the auto-scoping after being descoped....which I find seriously stupid.
Zoom reduces spread as well since the reticle doesn't get any bigger when you use it. Granted the boost in accuracy is more significant for autos in H5 if you compare the Silenced SMG with the H5 iteration.
RowdyReverb
Member
While you're here, is the "Game Ready!" notification supported by MCC? I just tried to watch Twitch while matchmaking was working thinking it would notify me when a match was found like the H5 beta would, but when I checked back a game had already started. It's a nice little convenience to have, especially if matchmaking is taking a little longer.
Ahh this depresses me.
Why might you ask?
Well my setup is kinda odd. I have a desk where my desktop PC is and I also use this same desk for playing my Xbox One, specifically FPS games, because I can't stand playing FPS games on my 46 inch tv from the couch, I instead use my 24 inch TV on my desk, but it means pushing the PC display back into the desk and making room for my TV. Then I hook up my Xbox One to the outlet and to the TV and I'm good to go. All of this setup in hopes that MCC will work...only after doing it...the crap that you posted above happens, then it makes me rage and I unplug everything I just setup and put it back on the floor and bring my PC display back to where it was and commence Diablo 3 or Quake Live or Guild Wars 2 or Insurgency...ya know....games that actually fucking work.
Ryn, yes, there is a damage buff for the light rifle when zoomed in....comon man, what are we gonna call it universally? Smart scope? ADS? It doesn't matter what the fuck it is, ADS or not...the fact that we're getting buffs when scoped in on any weapon makes it kinda odd in my opinion.
Now I'm going to argue that the light rifle buff is fucking bad ass (call me hypocrite) however, it takes precision aiming to land the fucking shots, where as smart scoping a fucking AR/SMG is purely point and spray....so.....do the math.
By the way, not arguing with you specifically, moreso I'm directing my point to 343.
Gonna give a buff to scoping in...okay...then it shouldn't apply to full auto weapons...at all....period.
Damn I love ellipse...
Edit...again...
I gotta say Halo GAF, you make my work day humorous. I take short few minute breaks at work and check out what the latest is on Halo GAF and it keeps me sane at work. What's depressing though is knowing that after eight hours of hell, I can't ever come home to a full functional Halo Master Chief Collection. What furthered the frustration was this past weekend when I was looking forward to a fun-filled weekend of Halo 5 beta with the AR/BR starts...but holy fucking shit what happened????? 343 thought it would be cute to go back to AR/Pistol....holy fucking balls. What an awesome idea.
CloudyTuba
Member
Oh my the patch only made things worse. MUCH WORSE. In fact it actually went backwards, I am now having bugs that I havent had in a long time.
This started as just a few bullet points but I've been updating it with my continued experiences tonight after the patch. Location west coast USA, I've already tried hard resetting.
That and UI updates are definitely a priority over the multiplayer working.
This started as just a few bullet points but I've been updating it with my continued experiences tonight after the patch. Location west coast USA, I've already tried hard resetting.
- I tried to get into a match and it put me and everyone else into a customs lobby.
- Matchmaking sometimes gets stuck on the voting screen and allows me to vote twice, but the second vote doesnt matter. Thanks for bringing this back too. I missed it.
- When viewing the player roster it now lets me select the "In Lobby" header and shows me who the LEADER of this "Dedicated Server" is. Thats new.
- If I manage to get a real game. when that game starts it is then clearly not on a dedicated server. Rubber banding and host migrations galore.
- Right now I am in a Halo 4 match that is glitching so bad it is literally unplayable and is going black every 10 seconds or so. It started off just doing it once or twice a minute but then it started cycling like wild.
- Oh, the match ended at 250 points. In BTB.
- I'm playing Halo 1 now and I see that the sniper rifle and the pistol (maybe more) no longer have any zoom sounds. This was fine at launch, got broken in a patch, fixed again, and has now been broken again. Make up your minds you sadists.
- Okay well now I'm starting a new search and it just flat out failed. Got about 14 players and then didnt do anything. People left, then it actually said Host Migration in Progress and dropped everyone remaining. Now I'm just here alone and matchmaking isn't doing shit. It's been sitting there for about 10 minutes now and I havent given enough of a shit to do anything about it. Glad that we're back to November-calibre functionality.
That and UI updates are definitely a priority over the multiplayer working.
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BTB One-Flag is the only H2A Gametype I've played since the patch, but it had them, and selectable loadouts. Also the game ended after just two rounds instead of the six(?) it as supposed to go for.
The game has been broken for long enough now that I'm just imagining some devious/evil 343 employee has rigged a news ticker to display all of the "3v4 industries" type posts from Twitter and forums. Maybe in the break room. And above it is Frankie's face with a speech bubble that says, "Get back to work!"
edit: I created a quick mockup of the sign. Feel free to use it as you please.
- "3v4 multi flag again."
- "Team slayer with three teams."
- "BTB has 6 players."
- "Found a full game in 5 seconds, then the game crashed."
edit: I created a quick mockup of the sign. Feel free to use it as you please.
RowdyReverb
Member
I just got a couple H4 BTB matches in a row. Some notes:
- Matchmaking times are better than they used to be. It still feels like there's room for improvement, but for all I know it's a population issue.
- Not sure if it's a bug or a feature, but all the loadouts options are all the same except for starting weapon, regardless of my custom loadouts. Happened in both matches.
- 4-shot BR is definitely back.
- Second game ended a bit prematurely at 250 points instead of 1000.
- Matchmaking times are better than they used to be. It still feels like there's room for improvement, but for all I know it's a population issue.
- Not sure if it's a bug or a feature, but all the loadouts options are all the same except for starting weapon, regardless of my custom loadouts. Happened in both matches.
- 4-shot BR is definitely back.
- Second game ended a bit prematurely at 250 points instead of 1000.
Delta Unit Hinkle
Member
For Competitive play it doesn't. But the mechanic itself is just another means to immerse Players into the game play. Game that feel more realistic immerse players more. Adding hud movement (maybe not alot but minimal), screen bob(keep this minimal) and even ads adds to the realism and immersion.
I know this doesn't really mean much for multiplayer. But is little things like this that IMHO make me feel more part of the game. In halo 4 i felt like Chief. A hulking super soldier in power armor, more so then i ever had(regardless of story and everything else).The movement and sounds effects, they added to the player just makes it feel that much more real.
Just my $.02
They've been in every objective game type in ranked Halo 2 Anniversary since a couple updates ago. Load outs or weapon sets are also enabled, and it's SMG spawns. It used to be the correct BR spawn settings and no kill cams, but it's been broken for over a month now.
Has 343 not been aware of this? It's literally every single objective game in the playlist, all it takes is a few minutes of play testing to see it. I don't mean to be brash, but how are we supposed to believe that this game is getting the proper quality and amount of attention it needs if something like that has gone unnoticed for so long?
I think it's time to offer a buyback program and give us refunds. It's the right thing to do, and it's the only truly fair solution.