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Halo |OT 23| Thruster is Love, Thruster is Life
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ProvenDeadly
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FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Thank you for starting this discussion, hopefully you can converse with me on the subject and not disappear once I enter the fray like anyone else who drops the "I like motion tracker because it takes more skill" bomb on us.
Notice one thing from my clips, how I'm constantly looking around my environments and making educated guesses as to where I need to be, especially with where I throw my grenades to predict enemy movement.
Motion tracker is killing you. It's killing your importance as an individual player because it drastically limits your creativity in approaching the enemy. Please, let's have this discussion because I play alone a lot and motion tracker is the bane of my existence.
Here are a couple more clips:
BONUS checking teleporter to be safe no one is coming from behind and quickly grenading the Rocket towards me as I pick up OS.
Another reason I don't like motion tracker is because not only does it slow gameplay down and make it less interesting, but because it's too easy for good players to dominate lesser skilled ones. Look how I just turn around and instantly stick this guy because I saw a red dot on my motion tracker.
Yet another clip why motion tracker sucks, because people just RUN RUN RUN RUN RUNNNNN AWAY from fights.
Motion tracker is worse than Armor Luck, Bubble Shield and the Regen.
#NoMotionTracker
Oh you.
Digital Limit
Member
Don't waste your time with this video, this guy thinks thrust is bad.
Pick your battles, man.
Playing alone with radar is miserable. Turning off radar gives you an opportunity to enter a battle without the enemy immediately knowing exactly where you are, not only the person you're shooting but their teammates who can turn the tide of the battle against you.
Umm.
How long have you honestly believed motion tracker only showed location during a pulse?
You've stated your point, we get that you don't like the game, but if you can't be constructive about your criticism, then I'm sure you'll be ignored. I watched the last bit and this dude just spouts off about how he's not gonna buy the game as opposed to collecting all of his negatives and positives. I may be wrong, but so far it seems like all you do is post about how you hate the game without giving useful feedback on it.
I dislike certain aspects of the game. If they give me the ability to toggle those aspects off, or provide me with a more "classic" way to play, I'll enjoy it more. I don't think anyone here has flat out said Halo 5 is shit though have they?
I know some won't buy it due to the MCC fiasco and how they said speak for yourself when I said all of us would be in line day one buying H5 like the sheep we are.
I know some won't buy it due to the MCC fiasco and how they said speak for yourself when I said all of us would be in line day one buying H5 like the sheep we are.
Have you met Mr Proven Deadly?
biosnake20
Member
I'd love to see a video of 343 giving their overall response to the feedback they got from the beta and what changes they think are necessary going forward. A post beta Sprint, if you will.
np havoke
A) who is havoke and why aren't they posting?
B) I misspoke and was thinking of another game. Either way it does not show when crouched, which leads to strategy.
I misspoke.
Sikamikanico
#1 Dad
Hey DestinyGAF, how's tricks?
Welcome new person.
This is not your grave....
Welcome new person.
This is not your grave....
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Chitown, you are the worst kind of human there is. I take that time to address you and I can't even get a response..
Why are you catering to these people 343? They're going to buy the game anyway.. At least give us the option for Matchmaking TOGGLES ;'[
Motion Tracker?
Done. Ship it. Toggles have been requested for many years now, will we see any change to how we search for games?
Why are you catering to these people 343? They're going to buy the game anyway.. At least give us the option for Matchmaking TOGGLES ;'[
Motion Tracker?
Enabled/Disabled
Done. Ship it. Toggles have been requested for many years now, will we see any change to how we search for games?
...but are they welcome in it?
Crouching isn't strategy its a handicap.
You slow yourself down to a crawl for stealth when you could do the same exact flanking route much quicker without radar.
But I agree with one thing about this radar debate. Without good teammates that call out, No Radar is a shitshow. Especially with no spotting system either.
CoD radar is perfect imo. It tells you where enemies are that are fighting. AKA where the action is. But also allows you to have some stealth/outplay ability without having to slow down.
Basically, the strategy radar creates slows the game down.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
lol nice, iC wat u did thar
- Will Chitown ever respond to that post?
- Will motion tracker ever be removed?
- Will FUNKNOWN ever get over it?
Next episode on HaloGAF Z, FUNKNOWN has an aneurysm as motion tracker now details players at all times in Halo 5, despite movement!
EDIT:
Hiding behind the excuse of "work?" You are teh wurst.
Not only killing himself, but killing his entire team. Realizations that people who depend on motion tracker will rarely experience.
Take this as a learning experience, Chitown. Trust your HaloGAF brethren and cut the umbilical cord!
Chitown Crouch Walking while the other team is Soaring and Four'ing, pushing the power weapons and getting map control. Chitown spends 30 seconds crouch walking for one kill, while his team gets spawn cycled and they lose map control, all because he thinks Motion Tracker is skillful.
w.t.f.
I'm at work. I don't have time to watch all your videos right now.
Yeah I don't actually crouch walk much. I'm just using it as an example. I like radar. I always have. No one can convince me that I don't like it better. To each their own.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Cool man, no reason to keep an open mind about things these days. The world is flat, don't bother convincing me otherwise.
Why not? I would like this idea too, and they could put descriptions when you go from one tier/rank to the next.
You are now ranked ONYX. Here's what to expect from other players in this ranking, and here are the changes and why:
etc.
EDIT:
But I posted videos and described how I accomplish what you're describing without motion tracker and without call outs.
I like knowing where people are. I like planning my nade tosses for nade/headshots. You can't do that without motion tracker unless you have a team calling out and even then you can't time them unless you have line of sight and just happen to anticipate your enemy's movements or know how they play.
Welfare
Member
Then play social.
Which playlist is social on MCC? They don't have them split. I do like to play social. I played 5,000 games of social Halo 3 and customs.
who do you think you are? I looked up your name and you don't even have Halo 2, 3, or Reach play history.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
UNKNOWN
I'm a nobody randy who likes to have FUN, hence the change to my name. I don't know what I'm talking about, just disregard everything I'm saying. Sorry for wasting your time. Enjoy work, friend, have a wonderful day :]
I'm a nobody randy who likes to have FUN, hence the change to my name. I don't know what I'm talking about, just disregard everything I'm saying. Sorry for wasting your time. Enjoy work, friend, have a wonderful day :]
Yea, well I like flanking and everyone not knowing my every move. The game comes to a complete stalemate with good people. When scores aren't being reached in an Arena game mode, there's a problem. That problem, is radar.
It can do the same without radar with call outs if both teams are good and know where all enemies are. Just a personal preference.
lol, no it can't dude. You literally have no idea what you're talking about.
Looks like the Halo Feedback program is now open for people in the EU, too. US people can also sign up at that link.
https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1930822/HaloCFPsignup
Credits to JumperJumpz.
https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1930822/HaloCFPsignup
Credits to JumperJumpz.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Well, it can so he's not entirely wrong there, but it has less to do with motion tracker and more to do with the map and weapon set.
For example, we saw several stalemates on Lockdown TS during the HCS tourneys. That more has to do with the BR having a long kill time and easily escaping fights though, so I still agree with you in your assertion that it definitely is no where near the amount of stalemates that occur with motion tracker enabled.
This is en entirely different discussion though and thankfully Halo 5 has a wide range of useful weapons that kill fast.
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I wonder if 343 changed radar to sound/health-based if people would even notice lol
Motion tracker ain't going anywhere. That's something that's been there from the start. It's so not on 343's radar, that you can see how they painstakingly have tried to explain the addition of ADS, making it different from CoD and also developed a system to somehow nerf sprint, and yet motion tracker is untouched, somehow getting even better with each game (elevation, exact vehicles now and how far).
At best, you're going to get Arena Slayer Pro, which will have it off.
At best, you're going to get Arena Slayer Pro, which will have it off.
Already had joined as US, do we have to sign up again or no? Haven't gotten any more surveys or emails beyond the initial one.
You're talking pros though with money on the line, your average dude in a matchmaking environment isn't going to do this. What happened there would have happened with or without radar, lol.
AnonomissX
Banned
Hey baby, I'm DANCING on it!
Motion tracker...either everyone has it, or no one has it. I can see having it in unranked/social playlists only. Its usefull on big or flat maps like Coag, Sidewinder, guardian, etc. But on maps with multiple levels like prisoner, countdown, or eden...just too confusing. And since everyone else has it, I have to use it or get ran over (well ran over more than usual).
BTW Halo 5? Aim down sights can die in a fire. Either don't put it in or let me toggle back to the classic zoom.
Ram's point about not reaching the score limit before time expires is a good one. This instantly makes me think about playing with radar on Guardian in Halo 3. There were countless times the game became a stalemate with one team camping gold/blue and the other team camping snipe/green. You just had to wait for a power up or for a mistake by the other team.
Compare this to MLG Guardian, which is radarless, and you have one of the best Halo maps of all time across all gametypes and major titles. Guardian had some of the neatest jumps and shortcuts since Lockout, but radar actually made it so you couldn't use them at all.
But hey, at least we can crouch walk across bottom mid and "use tactics" to beat our opponents.
I like how Chitown immediately picked up the crazy bullshit where Vin left it earlier.
Compare this to MLG Guardian, which is radarless, and you have one of the best Halo maps of all time across all gametypes and major titles. Guardian had some of the neatest jumps and shortcuts since Lockout, but radar actually made it so you couldn't use them at all.
But hey, at least we can crouch walk across bottom mid and "use tactics" to beat our opponents.
I like how Chitown immediately picked up the crazy bullshit where Vin left it earlier.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Step 1. Defend Chi slightly so he feels comfortable around me
Step 2. Have him respond to my videos and descriptions of how to predict enemy movement without motion tracker.
Step 3. Convert a nonbeliever.
Step 4. 343 takes note.
Step 5. No motion tracker in Halo 5.
Step 6. World peace.
Step 2. Have him respond to my videos and descriptions of how to predict enemy movement without motion tracker.
Step 3. Convert a nonbeliever.
Step 4. 343 takes note.
Step 5. No motion tracker in Halo 5.
Step 6. World peace.
Step 7. I wake up.
Guardian is a great example of a solid map that plays significantly worse with motion tracker. Remember the Mauler and sitting at the Sniper/OS while watching your motion tracker during Halo 3's prime?
yeesh
Fog skull <3
I always enable it.
I know, right?
That's a weapon that seriously needs to return. It was like a mini-shotgun.
Lol probably, I'm willing to admit I'm stubborn as fuck and have been banned for it, I liked destiny I just had higher expectations than most considering I love halo and I really love the concept of raiding. I'm gonna trade in some games and pick it up for xbone on Friday. I'll gear up for vog and slowly work my way towards crota.What a badass!
He misspoke. I think Vin misspoke too, but won't own up to it.
I just will take my time with it this time instead of rushing and feeling like I HAVE to do dailies everyday etc
VoG is far and away a better raid than Crota. Ending with Crota isn't going to change your opinion unfortunately. But if you don't find VoG a satisfying raid, I'll be super, duper upset b/c it totes is.
Also whatup HaloGAF!?!?!?!?!
I'd like to do it with 5 people from Gaf rather than randoms, think it'll help. I'll give it an honest second attempt, especially since halo has let me down and I won't have it again till halo 5.
Welfare
Member
These were great, makes me wanna play it tonight since I'll be off/home. Who else is gonna be on?